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ConfusedCartman
11-13-2009, 06:58 AM
Hey guys! Mm has enlisted our help - they would like our community to decide which LBP level is the very best! Now this is a daunting task, and with all the levels it's going to be very difficult to decide, so I think I've come up with a way to make it easier to narrow down the choices:


Come up with three levels that you think are deserving of the "Best LBP Level" title. The only restriction here is that a nomination must be a single level. If you are considering nominating a level series, decide which level in the series is most deserving of the award and choose that one.
Make a post in this thread with your three nominations. Be sure to include the level title and author.

If you nominate any more than three, any subsequent nominations will be ignored, so narrow it down! After we've tallied up the nominations, the top three (or five, depending on how many different levels are nominated) will be posted as a poll, and you will be able to vote for the one you think trumps the rest.

We can't say what this will be used for just yet, but we'll let everyone know when we can. Suffice to say, the winner will get more than just some recognition on LBPCentral.

Nominations Deadline: Tuesday, November 17th

Burnvictim42
11-13-2009, 07:22 AM
Oooh, more teasers CC? Honestly, you must love toying with us :p Before i vote, i have to ask, is there any way of keeping our votes private? There are honestly so many wonderful levels here that i'd hate to offend someone if they're not in my top three.

OmegaSlayer
11-13-2009, 07:46 AM
Vilter by Mother-Misty
Miracle of Life by Poms
Harry Potter by Nuclearfish

I will add my third pick later editing the post.

TripleTremelo
11-13-2009, 07:55 AM
Wow, really going to have to think about this.

EDIT: Yeah... I can't/don't want to pick the 'best' level in all of LBP. Sorry.

Zwollie
11-13-2009, 07:59 AM
Daunting task...wow. Lemme think about this one...

*closing his eyes and getting flashes of levels*

Shadowcrazy
11-13-2009, 08:29 AM
Azure Palace - gevurah22

/thread

Mr_T-Shirt
11-13-2009, 08:47 AM
ummmm, i guess its gotta be

The Movies by Teebonesy
Lovely Morning: All Your Tea Are Belong To Us! by LordMagicPants
aaand
The Good, The Bad and The Sackboy Part 3 by Wexfordian


Love those levels.

robotiod
11-13-2009, 09:26 AM
oooh this is going to be hard to decide, i wish my good levels werent all on my moon un finished lol

wexfordian
11-13-2009, 09:27 AM
oh wow.... such a tough question... gonna take a while..

MrsSpookyBuz
11-13-2009, 09:41 AM
Yes, difficult question indeed. I think I'd struggle if it was nominating 30 levels!

I'll need to have a good think :)

lbpholic
11-13-2009, 10:12 AM
Well my Top Two Fav levels are:

Ananas - Mother-Misty
Office Bomb Survival - Lemon--and--Gravy

Will get back to you on a third

BSprague
11-13-2009, 10:39 AM
This is really tough, but here it goes:
The Ancient Castle by OIL_
Mars Attacks III by GrantosUK
Manufactured Madness by mrsupercomputer

Zwollie
11-13-2009, 10:49 AM
Under construction:
1. Zephyr Valley - Mrsupercomputer (?)
2. FALSE IDOLS III: Epiphany - NinjaMicWZ (?)
3. ?

Boy, this is hard...I'm not even sure about the first 2!! I love so many levels but all for different reasons!! :(

Nuclearfish
11-13-2009, 11:00 AM
Very difficult to decide. Going to have to have a look at my hearted levels later and choose.....

Matt 82
11-13-2009, 11:05 AM
In no particular order:

Zephyr Valley - MrSupercomputer
Flaming Timberland 2 - Jackofcourse
Up And Away In Sky Town - Jump_Button


Also might I suggest someone starts up a new thread to discuss the best levels so CC isn't wading through dozens of posts to get to people's choices?

comphermc
11-13-2009, 11:11 AM
Sacky Potter and the Philosopher's Sponge by NuclearFish
Zephyr Valley by mrsupercomputer
Subterranean Setback by rtm223

Teebonesy
11-13-2009, 11:48 AM
Whaaat? The BEST level? This is beyond me. I have no idea, man, this is way too big of a question. A whole year's worth of playing, and I've got to boil it all down to a list of 3. At the very least, this thread should end up being a great "best of" thread though, a top list of level goodness.

I can't do any nominations yet, as I feel woefully underprepared at this point. But I will go so far as to say that I can't imagine this list is going to last long without at least one geosautus and at least one x-nobody-x creation, two of the biggest names in all of LittleBigLand.

EDIT: I've seen mrsupercomputer come up a few times now, and to be honest, he'll probably come up again in my list. I foresee the fuuuutuuure....

julesyjules
11-13-2009, 12:05 PM
Uncle Fritz's Funhouse Frenzy by killermiller (there you go Matt!)
Miracle of Life by Poms
Lara Cloth Tomb Raider: The Great Pyramid by Kiminski

Theres about 30 others. boo!

SLS10
11-13-2009, 12:20 PM
Hmm, tough call. But, here I go.

Art! Music! Creativity! by ilovemyjeep
Thirst for Adventure by SLS10 (really, it's just a self-bump)
Libidius by RRR3000 (or whatever his name is)

RangerZero
11-13-2009, 12:52 PM
Oh my God looks like I'll have a blitz in my hearted list this week-end!!!

This is going to be hard!

.

xkappax
11-13-2009, 01:09 PM
I have to narrow it down to 3?!

All right... Here we go.
1. Seal of Silvraen - Shadows of an Ancient Era by VMethos
2. Tomb of Light by Marynor
3. Mars Attacks I by GruntosUK

Wow. that was extremely hard, and I wanted to write down 1,000 other levels I know. :P

Tanuki75
11-13-2009, 01:21 PM
It's going to be fun nominating this, I'll have to look for the levels I always go back to and never tire of playing.

warlord_evil
11-13-2009, 01:31 PM
Post-apocalyptic by Anpostteller
Gun and Ran by Ciao_psn
The Scary Factory Overlooking the Village by Geosautus

:p

Tanuki75
11-13-2009, 01:50 PM
This makes my head hurt, if only we could nominate sub genres.

ladylyn1
11-13-2009, 02:17 PM
1) Post apocalyptic- Anposteller.

2) When the cows come home- geosautus.

3) hmmm, still thinking.

Syroc
11-13-2009, 02:20 PM
Ramp!








Of course I'm not serious!
Own or two of my own levels.













Yes!






But for the sake of fairness (:P) I will have a look at my hearted level list and choose some underrated/unknown/non-obvious levels that have more to offer than just prettiness. After all this isn't a beauty contest. :)

mrsupercomputer
11-13-2009, 02:32 PM
Splat Invaders Saga by CuzFeeshe
The Lost Tomb of Anubis by Nattura
Flaming Timberland 2 by Jackofcourse

iGotFancyPants
11-13-2009, 02:41 PM
Zephyr Valley by mrsupercomputer
Post-apocalyptic by anpostetter
Ancient Castle by OIL_

I'm confident with my choices... I think ;O

Asbestos101
11-13-2009, 02:52 PM
Distress in Ocean - yamame3
Littlebig deadspace - darknessbear
Death Rail - defmonkey666

I chose them all based on different merits, because no one true level can be the absolute 'best', but this will have to do :P

Distress in Ocean for originality on different fronts, with the crab and the shark still dropping jaws a whole year on.

Littlebig DeadSpace for beauty and atmosphere, showing how cinematic levels can be.

Death Rail for pure, unadulterated multiplayer mayhem. I love this level so much.

KQuinn94Z
11-13-2009, 04:10 PM
Flaming Timberland 2 by jackofcourse
Thirsty For Adventure by sls10
Post-Apocalyptic by anposteller


Oh yeah

Gilgamesh
11-13-2009, 04:13 PM
False Idols III: Epiphany, by NinjaMicWZ
H.A.T.E., by Voltiare
Distress in Ocean, by yamame3

SHENOA77
11-13-2009, 04:21 PM
I wish I could nominate everyone! But seeing as though I can't, here are some that come to mind worthy of that distinction.

A Level That Plays Itself x4 by CENTURION24

Sacky Potter and the Philosopher's Sponge by Nuclearfish


Stardust by Jaeyden

Kipmonlin
11-13-2009, 04:24 PM
the Ancient Castle by OIL_
Tye Dye! by Jaeyden
Sackboy, Nana & The Gingerbread House by RiCKy-BoBBy91

Keldur
11-13-2009, 04:30 PM
Am I the only one that does feel that choosing a best level, is well... incorrect?

I don't really know how to express it, it's just that I always thought that LBP avoided everything that was competitive in the slightest, that it was beyond the concept of competition. It's just playing, creating, sharing. It just doesn't feel alright to me to choose a "best" level. Wichever it's the result, it will be terribly unfair.

Seeing Mm enforcing this competitive vein in LBP does really sadden me :(

KQuinn94Z
11-13-2009, 04:35 PM
Ok then, lets make it so that no great creators can get the recognition they deserve by not having a little competition every once in a while....

ARD
11-13-2009, 05:00 PM
Man, this is tough.
But, uh...

The Refinery by candyk
The Good, the bad and the Sackboy: Part 3 by wexfordian
The Crystal Cave in Autumn by xkappax

These are three levels that have provided endless inspiration for me.

Good luck everyone ;)

Voodeedoo
11-13-2009, 05:41 PM
I think it's a bit too much to be choosing only one of over a million levels in LBP as "the best" despite the dynamic proportions and vast purpose of creation, but here are some notable ones I've come across:

Post-Apocalyptic by Anpostteller

Sackboy, Nana, and the Gingerbread House by Ricky-Bobby91

-and not being able to recall any others off the top of my head-

Digitalized Reality: The Lab by Steve_Big_Guns

I feel confident in these choices; looking at the recent posts I feel I'm not alone.

Leather-Monkey
11-13-2009, 05:56 PM
Manufactured Madness by mrsupercomputer
Zephyr Valley by mrsupercomputer
Tale of the Magnificent Ruby by geosautus

Kiminski
11-13-2009, 05:57 PM
Am I the only one that does feel that choosing a best level, is well... incorrect?

I don't really know how to express it, it's just that I always thought that LBP avoided everything that was competitive in the slightest, that it was beyond the concept of competition. It's just playing, creating, sharing. It just doesn't feel alright to me to choose a "best" level. Wichever it's the result, it will be terribly unfair.

Seeing Mm enforcing this competitive vein in LBP does really sadden me :(
I'm totally with you on this. It's a totally stupid idea.

I'm all for a bit of friendly competition, but how is anyone supposed to vote fairly without playing every single level ever made?

We're all aware of how so many wonderful levels slip through the Cool Levels net without seeing the light of day, how are they supposed to compete, vote wise, with levels that have over a million plays? :rolleyes:

hlee78
11-13-2009, 06:35 PM
(hi
i think flamming timberland , ghostly branch , miracle of life. also please have a go at my horse races with running legs and my halloween level was on cool page 1 on 31 october so please check it out thanks

mistervista
11-13-2009, 06:56 PM
I have to agree with keldur and kiminski on this one. It's very unfair to have to pick 3 out of so many levels. I could pick a different 3 every day for the next 3 months. There are hundreds of awesome levels I've played. If I have to choose however then I'll pick these purely because they are seriously underplayed and deserve a much bigger audience. Let me say also that these creators have other levels just as awesome making it virtually impossible for me to choose between them but for what it's worth here goes:

Part 4 of the Little Big Gardener series by koknsun

Tower of Zodiac by Nemm

Bozzle Quest by BOIA

deboerdave
11-13-2009, 07:14 PM
Reverse Jump Challenge -- shenoa77

OH NO! The Princess (3 and 4) -- captaincowboyhat

here is the levels i play when i cant find anything new to play that is fun. So that makes them the best

bonner123
11-13-2009, 07:35 PM
I have to say:

Rock Garden by Vacant_Face
The LBL Series by amazingflyingpoo
Mammet_Boxes levels
Syrocs levels
Yggdrasil by ?
Cave Escape by Miglioshin

Thats all for now...

theonlybub
11-13-2009, 08:53 PM
*Not in any order.*

StarCruiser by candyk

Digitized Reality: The Lab by steve_big_guns

Mars Attacks III: Unleashing The Beast Below by GruntosUK

This was very hard for me. I played all of my hearted levels and it took me over 10 hours. But those would be the ones I would nominate. I had to go back and forth between GruntosUk's and jackofcourse's levels. I finally just had to get out a chance cube and that is what happened. Very good levels.
Keep up the good work every one. :D

springs86
11-13-2009, 09:47 PM
3 levels?

need to check hearted list...

Shadowheaven
11-13-2009, 09:53 PM
Ancient Castle - OIL_
Subterranean Setback - rtm223
Azure Palace - gevurah22 (did i write this correctly?)

AbstractFlesh
11-13-2009, 10:09 PM
I think the following are my favorites:

-The Tribe by Phife24
-The Perpetual Distance:Chapter I by KoRnDawwg
-The Bunker by poms

There's all my votes :)

CCubbage
11-13-2009, 10:36 PM
Tough tough tough..... there are SO many I like for different reasons. But if I had to choose.....

False Idols III - NinjaMicWZ
Basalisk Bog - MrSuperComputer
Abyss! - Jaeyden

Jaeyden
11-13-2009, 10:42 PM
WOW! Where do you start? Just the thought of having to pick makes my head swoon. It's gonna take me all weekend to narrow this one down. So many. So good. Time to get started.

GruntosUK
11-13-2009, 11:04 PM
Hard choice, theres far to many for me to choose from without not thinking of something and then later kicking myself for not including it. I'll pass. Plus I think its a little counter productive and against all what LBP is.

Coxy224
11-13-2009, 11:21 PM
ok ok....It's time :)


Zephry Valley by Mrsupercomputer

Sonnet of the Gargoyles by dkjestrup

The Scary Factory overlooking the village by Geosautus


And so many more I wish I could put in there :(

Teebonesy
11-13-2009, 11:32 PM
Am I the only one that does feel that choosing a best level, is well... incorrect?

I don't really know how to express it, it's just that I always thought that LBP avoided everything that was competitive in the slightest, that it was beyond the concept of competition. It's just playing, creating, sharing. It just doesn't feel alright to me to choose a "best" level. Wichever it's the result, it will be terribly unfair.

Seeing Mm enforcing this competitive vein in LBP does really sadden me :(

this was my first reaction too. "Say it ain't so!" The co-operative, sharing, "all in it together" feeling of LBP doesn't feel there in this. But then I realized - We don't know what this is going to be for! I think we're assuming that the context Mm is going to use this for is going to be "This is THE best level anyone has eever creeeaated!!"

When in fact that's very unlikely. It might have something to do with a push to try and get the community playing better levels than what appears on "cool levels". Perhaps they're kicking off a new kind of "featured level - play this!" type of thing which will be updated on a regular basis? Perhaps they're going to do some kind of feature on the level, with an interview with the creator or something?

We don't know yet! I doubt the context is going to be "here's the community's greatest level". I'm sure it'll be something lovely and interesting, but for now we have to do a very hard thing, which is try to create a small list of the absolute top levels. I've got faith that Mm will have something cool up their sleeves.

If it does end up being "here's what the community voted was the best level!", then I'll eat my sackboy's tophat.

SLS10
11-13-2009, 11:42 PM
It's rather reassuring knowing that I'm not going to win due to the popularity of other creators.

Such is life.

Drakora
11-14-2009, 12:17 AM
Let's see, it'd have to be...

Subterranean Setbacks-rtm223
Brain-Chain Survival-comphermc
Chroma Stone 5-Morgana25

And, I also agree with Keldur.

Littlebigdude805
11-14-2009, 12:43 AM
Think your all forgetting:
1. post-apocalyptic by anposteller
2. Subterranean Setbacks by rtm223
3. The Good, The Bad, and The Sackboy III by wexfordian

if you haven't played that first one you have lived :p

gevurah22
11-14-2009, 04:14 AM
this was my first reaction too. "Say it ain't so!" The co-operative, sharing, "all in it together" feeling of LBP doesn't feel there in this. But then I realized - We don't know what this is going to be for! I think we're assuming that the context Mm is going to use this for is going to be "This is THE best level anyone has eever creeeaated!!"

When in fact that's very unlikely. It might have something to do with a push to try and get the community playing better levels than what appears on "cool levels". Perhaps they're kicking off a new kind of "featured level - play this!" type of thing which will be updated on a regular basis? Perhaps they're going to do some kind of feature on the level, with an interview with the creator or something?

We don't know yet! I doubt the context is going to be "here's the community's greatest level". I'm sure it'll be something lovely and interesting, but for now we have to do a very hard thing, which is try to create a small list of the absolute top levels. I've got faith that Mm will have something cool up their sleeves.

If it does end up being "here's what the community voted was the best level!", then I'll eat my sackboy's tophat.
My problem with this is that because it's only LBPCentral, we're not really getting a true representation of the community. Don't get me wrong, I think LBPC gathers some of the best in the community, but the voting will be skewed towards our own regardless of what people may think.

TheFirstAvenger
11-14-2009, 04:26 AM
Post-apocalyptic by Anpostteller
Gun and Ran by ????
I have to go look for more by Sometime soon.

:p


Ciao_PSN made that level.


And honestly this question makes me want to throw up, it's impossible to find "The Best" level, shame on MM. It's probably all in good fun but whoever does get this prize will probably be criticized and will have alot of weight put on their back, alot will be expected out of them because they created "the best" level.


I can give you 20 of the best levels, but thinking of just 3 makes my head hurt, and I'd feel guilty over not picking a certain level over the other.

theswweet
11-14-2009, 04:42 AM
hmm...i remember a great level iu played...but don't remeber the author...it wasn't that much played but it was AMAZING seriously!i have to say

2d world!(not by quallsboy2...hes on my friends list and its good but...not that one...it has levels...sorta,and a lot of great bosses!you'll know when you see it...and i left a comment)

the ultimate effects by the_lone_wolf_42

and a certain beta level i wish i could say...its by teebonesy and great!

Syroc
11-14-2009, 09:38 AM
Kakuri nights by o-tera (The name of the level may be a little bit different)
The sensation of perceiving light by geosautus

I think of another one later. Have to play some old levels again.

KQuinn94Z
11-14-2009, 10:28 AM
It's rather reassuring knowing that I'm not going to win due to the popularity of other creators.

Such is life.

I voted for you...

anpostteller
11-14-2009, 11:43 AM
I don't see why people are reacting so badly to this, humans love to compete, its just our nature, who is the best football player, who is the fastest sprinter, who can wear a dead octopus on their head the longest...

If this thing gives us the best level in lbp then great, i can't wait to play it if i haven't already, and if someone created such a level then i think they deserve to be recognised in this way for it, why aren't ye complaining about the rating system in lbp? A system that allows the community to not only show what they think is the best level (the bunker for quite a while) but also give someone one star and tags like rubbish! Seriously, why not give out about that?! Thats just crazy!

This thing is just like the rating system in lbp, but without the ability to say what the worst level is, and without the ability to H4H, it is being judged by the people that really love lbp, so if levels being praised or slandered by every tom **** and harry is ok, then levels being praised by the people who care seems pretty good to me! :p

I can't play through my hearted list because my ps3 is broken down, so i can't judge this...

But please play the beautiful pencil world levels by regular (not sure of his name) He deserves this and i dont think he was mentioned, so please please give them a go.

Sorry for the rant :p

olit123
11-14-2009, 11:58 AM
The best level O.O? This is going to be a hard decision.

Hmm lets see:
1. Zephyr Valley by Mrsupercomputer
2. Tale of the Magnificent Ruby by Geosautus
3. Digitalized Reality: The Lab by Steve_Big_Guns

Mother-Misty
11-14-2009, 01:01 PM
Ahh... what a torture! :(
Only 3?! That's almost impossible...
Can only name 1 at the moment and that's Jaeyden's TyeDye!

cheers,
misty.

chezhead
11-14-2009, 01:47 PM
Miracle of Life by Poms
aperture science Trilogy 1: comphermc
aperture science trilogy 2: comphermc

CreateNPlay
11-14-2009, 02:53 PM
Journey Through the Skies - olit123
Cause and Effect 2 - TripleTremolo
Cause and Effect 3 - TripleTremolo

:D

Keldur
11-14-2009, 03:32 PM
I don't see why people are reacting so badly to this, humans love to compete, its just our nature, who is the best football player, who is the fastest sprinter, who can wear a dead octopus on their head the longest...

If this thing gives us the best level in lbp then great, i can't wait to play it if i haven't already, and if someone created such a level then i think they deserve to be recognised in this way for it, why aren't ye complaining about the rating system in lbp? A system that allows the community to not only show what they think is the best level (the bunker for quite a while) but also give someone one star and tags like rubbish! Seriously, why not give out about that?! Thats just crazy!

This thing is just like the rating system in lbp, but without the ability to say what the worst level is, and without the ability to H4H, it is being judged by the people that really love lbp, so if levels being praised or slandered by every tom **** and harry is ok, then levels being praised by the people who care seems pretty good to me! :p

I can't play through my hearted list because my ps3 is broken down, so i can't judge this...

But please play the beautiful pencil world levels by regular (not sure of his name) He deserves this and i dont think he was mentioned, so please please give them a go.

Sorry for the rant :p

I'm afraid that I can't agree. Generally humans love to compete, but I'm sure that many of us don't. In my personal case, I don't like to compete, and I guess that many people in here neither do.

And I'd say that the rating system is necessary, in order to "classificate" the levels. Sure, in some way the rating sytsem says "this level is better than the other", but we all have in mind that those ratings tend to be unfair and biased; we don't take them that seriously, normally.

However, having Mm put a level up there and saying "THIS is the best level" it feels unfair, specially if made in an official way. Why?
No matter who votes for the best level, and following wich criteria, there are so many different types of levels and so many -and I'm sure of this- completely awesome levels that might have gone unnoticed, that the final decision will be... wrong.

We could vote wich level was the funnest, or wich level is more popular amongst LBPC members (wich is, in my opinion what we're doing) but choosing a level, and saying that it is just BETTER than everything else?
It's like if you ask a museum director for the best paintig in the whole history of art. There is just no answer.

I'm sure that wichever level is elected, I'll have probably played it, and I'll aslo love it, and the cretor will probably deserve the given recognitzion. I also agree with you on that people who really cares about LBP voting for the level they like the most it's a good thing, but handing out the title of "best level" for all the reasons stated before, feels deeply wrong to me.

CCubbage
11-14-2009, 03:46 PM
True.... this whole thing is VERY subjective... and, unfortunately, some of the best levels in LittleBigPlanet will never be mentioned because either a) it was a level old enough so that it couldn't get much attention when it was released or b) it has been a while since release so people have forgotton about it, c) they aren't as popular a creator.

With over a million levels released in LittleBigPlanet, could anyone ever pick a best level?

Personally, I tend to gravitate toward people like Jaeyden, MrsSpookyBuz, NinjaMicWZ, MrSuperComputer, Wexfordian, Poms, and Gevurah22 because for me they nailed down the right mix of visuals, innovative non-frustrating gameplay, and intriguing subject matter. I think carrying all of these at the same time is a real art.

Incinerator22
11-14-2009, 04:38 PM
You have no idea how much I disagrree with this. To be honest, MM is being selfish.

It would be like asking what is the best food in the world or what is the best song, it's not possible. Personally, my favorite level is subbteranean setbacks but I wouldn't want any level deemed the best level in LBP. Maybe, just MAYBE they could narrow it down to sub-cattegories like best platformer or best paint shooter but even that would be subjetive to OPINION. No matter what happens, it's not going to change a thing.

My favorite level will still be subbteranean setbacks, and favorite and "BEST" are two very different things. I realise that my favorite levels are very different than someone else's, and it's no reason to fight.

Mark my words, the results are going to make many people unhappy.

Kiminski
11-14-2009, 04:53 PM
I'm afraid that I can't agree. Generally humans love to compete, but I'm sure that many of us don't. In my personal case, I don't like to compete, and I guess that many people in here neither do.

And I'd say that the rating system is necessary, in order to "classificate" the levels. Sure, in some way the rating sytsem says "this level is better than the other", but we all have in mind that those ratings tend to be unfair and biased; we don't take them that seriously, normally.

However, having Mm put a level up there and saying "THIS is the best level" it feels unfair, specially if made in an official way. Why?
No matter who votes for the best level, and following wich criteria, there are so many different types of levels and so many -and I'm sure of this- completely awesome levels that might have gone unnoticed, that the final decision will be... wrong.

We could vote wich level was the funnest, or wich level is more popular amongst LBPC members (wich is, in my opinion what we're doing) but choosing a level, and saying that it is just BETTER than everything else?
It's like if you ask a museum director for the best paintig in the whole history of art. There is just no answer.

I'm sure that wichever level is elected, I'll have probably played it, and I'll aslo love it, and the cretor will probably deserve the given recognitzion. I also agree with you on that people who really cares about LBP voting for the level they like the most it's a good thing, but handing out the title of "best level" for all the reasons stated before, feels deeply wrong to me.

Absolutely.

Also worth considering the enormous age gap between players too. Imagine if Blue Peter did an art comp for ages 7 to 40, all hell would break loose!

They should rename it 'The best level made by an adult who's a regular and popular poster on LBPC and spam publishes to reach page one cool levels'.

Boycott! :)

Incinerator22
11-14-2009, 04:56 PM
Yes boycott, NO ONE VOTE!!!!

Gravel
11-14-2009, 04:56 PM
Yeah, its been said before but I can not get behind this idea, even if we, (Mm) denote it as the top 20! This is wrong. I might be able to get behind a top 100 but anything else feels so wrong to me in so many many ways...

I'm kinda ashamed actually... let's see there's been shameless self promotion, cronyism, which then starts of an endless chain of thanks... Omissions. And most of those who were brave enough to stand-up and say this isn't right, went on and voted anyway.

Today I'm gonna take a stand. No matter how much 'how-to' goes into a level, No matter how much 'technical expertise', No matter how many; plays, hearts, stars, or promoting went into a level-- (to me at least) --they are works of ART first and foremost to Me. Even if the creator never thought of it this way, (like a little big calculator say) they are Art, and as such should not be subjected to this sort of scrutiny... it's just wrong. I will say on any given day you are all right.

xkappax
11-14-2009, 05:02 PM
Erm. You know what?... I submitted 3 levels, but then I sat down and thought about it.

This is a terrible idea, isn't it?

I could name 100 levels right now off the top of my head that are ALL deserving of that title. Media Molecule has listened to us before, let's hope they listen here.

I am 100 percent for the ending of this nonsense, as it will do nothing but promote ill will in the community. If MM really wants to help us out, they can bring MM Picks back.

There is no waaaaaaay that a level like Azure Palace and a level like Cause and Effect are even on the same playing ground. They're completely different Genres. And it can be said about any level, really. It's like comparing Apples to ... what's something really different than Apples.... um.... Frogs. lol. My point is, levels are so different than one another, that there can't be just one "best"! It's not possible!

I restate this: THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA!

Syroc
11-14-2009, 05:13 PM
http://img204.yfrog.com/img204/5594/p15.png

anpostteller
11-14-2009, 05:34 PM
I suppose ye are right in some ways, that amazing levels could go unnoticed, and you can't really say what's the best unless you've played all the levels, but its still an overreaction, i don't see why someone would be so outraged by this, you might not like it, but to say its shocking and deeply wrong is a bit much.
And nobody knows what the purpose of this is, i can't believe some of ye, ye basically crucified MM and ye don't even know where they are going with this.

xkappax
11-14-2009, 05:49 PM
Media Molecule seems to listen to the community for the most part. I'm just going to wait and see what happens. Perhaps they'll realize that this might not be the wisest of choices.

rtm223
11-14-2009, 05:49 PM
No we don't know what MM's intention is with this, but:


they would like our community to decide which LBP level is the very best!
...
the winner will get more than just some recognition on LBPCentral.


In some way or another, there will be a winner for "best level". That's what people are objecting to. It doesn't matter what MM do with such a winner, many just think it's stupid to pick one level as the "best".


If MM really wants to help us out, they can bring MM Picks back.
... and community picks. And not just for a one-off token effort.

Incinerator22
11-14-2009, 05:55 PM
Yes, exactly. You could give the winner a solid gold trophy or a tiny ribbon, but I still object no matter what...

gevurah22
11-14-2009, 05:59 PM
I suppose ye are right in some ways, that amazing levels could go unnoticed, and you can't really say what's the best unless you've played all the levels, but its still an overreaction, i don't see why someone would be so outraged by this, you might not like it, but to say its shocking and deeply wrong is a bit much.
And nobody knows what the purpose of this is, i can't believe some of ye, ye basically crucified MM and ye don't even know where they are going with this.

I can agree that we may be jumping the gun on our opinions of the contest at large, but to piggyback what xkappax was saying, there are so many categories and genres that are covered within this supposed space on top of keeping it within lbpc voting that you truly do not get a true snapshot of what can truly be considered the "best level."

If we looked at certain time periods of when our particular levels were released, you'll find so much variation and advancements in the creation aspect that it really puts an unfair advantage on newer ones which implement things like invisible tools, dlc like the paintinator, etc.

anpostteller
11-14-2009, 06:03 PM
No we don't know what MM's intention is with this, but:




In some way or another, there will be a winner for "best level". That's what people are objecting to. It doesn't matter what MM do with such a winner, many just think it's stupid to pick one level as the "best".


... and community picks. And not just for a one-off token effort.

**** it! You foiled me again rtm :p

But still, whats wrong with picking the best? Ye may say that its impossible to judge and some levels will go unnoticed, but if they declare which one is the best and you don't agree, then challange it with another level, then its easy to judge between the two, the level would retain its title as the best until someone points out a better one, and then that level would be open to challenge and so on

jackofcourse
11-14-2009, 06:04 PM
Spaff was talking to me about this at the meal after the expo, so I have a good idea what it will be for.

I understand fully where people are coming from with the 'so many will go unnoticed and it's unfair' stuff.

However, that could be said about most things done in this way. The biggest mistake is just asking LBPC. Now LBPC is very cliquey, I don't use that as a criticism, it is one of the things that make this community what it is. But in a situation like this it isn't the right move to have this site pick the level. The results are always going to be biased.

Upto now it seems to be that Zephyr Valley and Subterranean Setbacks are 'winning'. I think that's shows a lot. (No disrespect to the levels intended in anyway)

Using SS as my example, I think it's fair to say, and I'm sure rtm223 would agree, this is not the best 'fully rounded' level in LBP. It has it's audience and it caters to them perfectly, but it's not for everyone. I believe to be 'the best' level in terms of something like this, it has to be something that is accessable to all and reflect the tastes of everyone (I know that's not possible, but it needs to get as close as it can).

The way this should have been done in on Mm's site. You submit votes directly to them and then they can sort it all out. I'm sure there's an element of prioritise/laziness in why they haven't done it this way. But with something this big, it has to be done right.

The other way would be to put put a post on Mm's site saying that voting is to take place on the official forum, and then anyone who wants to vote has to sign up. It is the official forum after all.

No one even knows about this other than this site. It hasn't been handled very well at all. I don't think Mm have realised how much a title like this will mean to the community, (especially if not done fairly.)

xkappax
11-14-2009, 06:10 PM
You're absolutely right, Jack. This is like trying to pick the best sort of fish by going out to the ocean with a bucket, scooping up some water, and then choosing the fish from only what is in that bucket, instead of what's in the entire ocean. If that made any sense. :P

jackofcourse
11-14-2009, 06:11 PM
You're absolutely right, Jack. This is like trying to pick the best sort of fish by going out to the ocean with a bucket, scooping up some water, and then choosing the fish from only what is in that bucket, instead of what's in the entire ocean. If that made any sense. :P

Very apt analogy indeed! :)

Littlebigdude805
11-14-2009, 06:13 PM
well LBPC holds some of LBPs finest players who have been around long enough to have gained a good understanding of a "good" level. If you asked everyone on just LBP all there "bomb survival" and "glitch" and "bike" levels and voting for there own levels would heavily out weigh our votes.

on that note all of you stop ranting and just vote :)
just for fun

gevurah22
11-14-2009, 06:20 PM
One of the biggest issues I have with this is the fact we don't necessarily have a concrete idea of what the criteria is for picking the best one. Pulling from a recent experience I had judging the LBP PSP levels for a San Francisco Academy of Art contest we just did a few days ago, the faculty of the school, myself, and a couple of the SCEA guys broke it down in the following:

Theme
Design
Playability (fun factor)

There were obvious levels that the students created which were more fun than others, but did not hit the other two criteria as well as they should have. Ultimately, the level that captured all three the best was chosen. Granted I'm not saying that those aspects should be used for this particular contest, the current way of doing this particular one has no real structure and still falls into LBPC community bias.

If you're going to do a contest in this magnitude, you have to do it right.

jackofcourse
11-14-2009, 06:20 PM
well LBPC holds some of LBPs finest players who have been around long enough to have gained a good understanding of a "good" level. If you asked everyone on just LBP all there "bomb survival" and "glitch" and "bike" levels and voting for there own levels would heavily out weigh our votes.

on that note all of you stop ranting and just vote :)
just for fun

It's not just LBPC that is the good part of this community, you know. There are a lot of fantastic members on other sites who deserve their chance to vote. Saying that, EVERYONE deserves a chance to vote, regardless of what they vote for. That is how you get a fair poll, by asking everyone. At the minute Mm are asking a very small and very cliquey demographic. Which is only going to yield biased results.

Littlebigdude805
11-14-2009, 06:31 PM
Im just saying LBPC is the best start. where are you gunna get better results? a community of experienced players like yourself or a bunch of "H4Hing bomb survival replaying glitch humping 8-10 yr old rapid fire republishers" not to say there all like that but cmon :grr: LBPC is the acid that separates the whey from the milk...its the cheese :p i do agree that we shouldn't be the ONLY ones to vote, everyone should vote but the best place to start is here.

Incinerator22
11-14-2009, 06:35 PM
There's no good place to vote with an immoral vote like this. "Fan-Favorite Level of LBP" might work, but "Best Level"!?

jackofcourse
11-14-2009, 06:36 PM
Im just saying LBPC is the best start. where are you gunna get better results? a community of experienced players like yourself or a bunch of "H4Hing bomb survival replaying glitch humping 8-10 yr old rapid fire republishers" not to say there all like that but cmon :grr: LBPC is the acid that separates the whey from the milk...its the cheese :p i do agree that we shouldn't be the ONLY ones to vote, everyone should vote but the best place to start is here.

I understand what you're saying but it appears that this is only poll being taken. And even if they put threads on each forum like this is one it still wouldn't be the fairest way to do it.

It shouldn't be done in a thread either. Votes should be submitted directly to Mm. If it's done in a thread people can see what has been voted for, and I have no doubt this will influence others. (Not voting for a level because it already has lots of votes etc). Now I know most won't do this, but there certainly is a few, whether they do it on purpose or it is subconsciously. All it takes it one person to do it and it is then unfair.

Littlebigdude805
11-14-2009, 06:42 PM
I understand what you're saying but it appears that this is only poll being taken. And even if they put threads on each forum like this is one it still wouldn't be the fairest way to do it.

It shouldn't be done in a thread either. Votes should be submitted directly Mm. If it's done in a thread people can see what has been voted for, and I have no doubt this will influence others. (Not voting for a level because it already has lots of votes etc). Now I know most won't do this, but there certainly is a few, whether they do it on purpose or it is subconsciously. All it takes it one person to do it and it is then unfair.


dang....yea that's true, well i hope this wont be taken too seriously...or even be used.

here have a cookie http://tinyurl.com/9y4uaq

rtm223
11-14-2009, 06:43 PM
I'm sure rtm223 would agree

Yep. Along with just about everything else you have said here :D

Syroc
11-14-2009, 06:59 PM
You could all vote for me. I can take care of the honour until someone deserving comes along. Deal? :p

PS: Of course I would have to be nominated first. ;_;

theswweet
11-14-2009, 08:10 PM
welll...like i said,this author that made my first choice is awesome by my standards...and i know a couple of the better authors not on this site more personally...

2d world had(last time i checked)
4*
100plays
10comments

and it was amazing!

the level itself has...

5-levels(as in areas...bigger than some of the more famous ones,they feel like a semi-average sized level!)they had tons of gameplay styels...more than any other level i've played!

5-bosses!(good ones by that!)

and great graphics and lighting effects!...

i have no doubt...that this is the best level,and it never made it to page one!



so yeah...this isn't the best voting technique

ZramuliZ
11-14-2009, 08:32 PM
1. Subterranean Setback by rtm223
2. Aperture Science: Sackboy Chambers by comphermc
3. Aperture Science: Sackboy Escape by comphermc

I'm a huge portal fan :p but the Subterranean Setback is just somehow the best level I've ever played!

MrsSpookyBuz
11-14-2009, 10:11 PM
Hmm... okay, I've been keeping up-to-date with this thread with interest.

I'm confused. Apart from the fact that it's a very tight deadline to jog memories or to play lots of levels again, and the fact that the criteria for 'best level ever' are more complex than asking the opinion of a few hundred people (however well-versed these people are).

I don't know the reasons for actually asking the question - it's been stated that we'll know more soon - but it's difficult to understand why Mm are asking LBPC to decide which is this 'best level'. Should they not be undertaking this responsibility themselves? Should every player not get a chance to vote who wants to?

I don't mean to offend anyone, really I don't. But having a fun debate about your FAVOURITE levels is one thing - asking LBPC members to vote for the BEST level is quite another.

ARD
11-14-2009, 10:16 PM
http://img204.yfrog.com/img204/5594/p15.png

http://i38.tinypic.com/a2bxhx.jpg

But now everyone can be a king!

Syroc
11-14-2009, 10:29 PM
http://i38.tinypic.com/a2bxhx.jpg

But now everyone can be a king!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRSVblUGRRk

Voodeedoo
11-14-2009, 10:46 PM
Curses, Mm! As you ask us to decide, shan't you tell us your opinion on what a good level is? This thread is causing so much hugabaloo over why LBP is now turning into a competition!

Regardless, must it be a platformer level? Music level? Experimental level? Glitch showcase level? Bomb h4h survival level? Eh?

Since before, every time someone's ever thought that there was a best level, I say, "Off with you, you scallywag, you! I've better thoughts to think! I shan't be lol-ing about in some capitalistic stupor!"

I go sleep now.

theswweet
11-14-2009, 10:50 PM
yah Mm...plus there are levels no one finds that rocks...my favourite is a 100 play level :/

you can't vote for this!

democracy is great and all but...
nope,this won't work!

unless you play all 1,000,000+ levels and then vote between everyone!

untill then...we will never know which is best...and besides!

lbp is a fun game!...not a stupid competition!stop this non-sense!

olit123
11-14-2009, 11:36 PM
I don't understand why some of you are getting all worked up about this. When the number one best level gets decided, the other million people who made levels in LBP aren't going to be severely disappointed are they?

It's like entering the lottery, if you end up not winning, you aren't really going to be upset are you? Unless for some reason you convinced yourself that you would win the lottery :p

Anyway, all I'm saying is: this competition or whatever it is, won't really degrade the spirit of the creators that didn't win. It'll just make the person who does win very, very happy :D

Also, if Media Molecule are doing a level of the year type thing, won't that encourage people to put more effort into their levels in the hope of winning it next year? So that means more creative levels on page one right?

ConfusedCartman
11-15-2009, 12:22 AM
I'm just going to clarify this for you guys a bit:

I was explicitly asked to accrue some nominations and then set up a poll and let the users decide which level was the "best". Regardless of what my personal opinion is, this is coming from Mm at least (if not Sony, through Mm) and I'm not going to say "no" because I disagree with the way it's being executed. I have and will continue to talk to Spaff about this and see if we can open things up a bit more (categories or something) but until I do, I'm going to continue to do what I was asked. If you are morally against nominating three levels that you feel stand out above the rest, then by all means, don't nominate, but please don't de-rail the thread in the process.

oldage
11-15-2009, 12:39 AM
1. The good The bad and the sackboy Episode 3 by Wexfordian
2. Mars attacks! 3 by GrantosUK
3. The cause and effect 3 by tripletremelo

Sack-Jake
11-15-2009, 12:56 AM
The best level in LBP I'd have to say is Post-Apocolyptic by anpostteller. Simply beautiful level.

Xenifus
11-15-2009, 02:25 AM
I will never think otherwise that Donkey's "Azure Palace" is worthy of being nominated, therefore I'm nominating it, as it is the level that started every ground-breaking level we have now. Honestly, I can't think of any other two levels because I'm not at my PS3 right now, but hopefully I'll get back to everyone soon enough.

Also, I agree with swweet. I don't like the idea of choosing between levels, because I KNOW there are better ones out there that aren't getting noticed and therefore not being nominated. Besides, this is a game where everyone can be something! Why make the best of the best NOT be the best because one person did something an inch more appealing to the mean of the audience?

Night Angel
11-15-2009, 02:37 AM
Azure Palace by gevurah22
Post-Apocalyptic by Anpostteller
Miracle of Life by Poms

Asbestos101
11-15-2009, 03:21 AM
Lol, getting worked up about it won't solve anything. Not voting only works if everyone not votes, and seeing as some people have already voted, all your doing is serving to empower those that did by removing the diversity in votes.

Whilst I do agree that a few hundred, friendly yet inevitably biased, people cannot make an apt decision as to the vaguely criteria'd 'best level evarr', it's a ****ed sight better than doing it by plays or hearts.

EmanWithDPlan
11-15-2009, 05:40 AM
wiggler world 1 by the wiggler
wiggler world 2 by the wiggler

[ill say my third in a later edit]

Voodeedoo
11-15-2009, 05:53 AM
I'm just going to clarify this for you guys a bit

I apologize if I seemed a bit more aggressive than I meant to be in my last post; too much caffeine can change ones mentality and make then act like a stereotypical Britishman, no?

And I'm aware that you're simply doing your part, no offense intended, I assure you. It just makes me wonder why Mm isn't being more specific, or clear as to what they want. Oh well, its not the apocalypse.

Speaking about apocalypses, I smell Anpostteller being a nominee. Does anyone smell it? Or is it just me...

LittleBigDave
11-15-2009, 06:45 AM
Subterranean Setbacks by rtm223

I'm not sure I'll be able to whittle down a list of three, but I'm sure any list I'd make would save room for Subterranean Setbacks. It's got non-stop expert-level platforming with great score bubble chaining challenges, some very creative game play puzzles, a coherent story driving you forward, great dramatic moments, over 30 secret areas to find, and some really useful demo logic prizes...all served up in a meaty portion that takes 20 minutes or more to work through. I've yet to see another level that delivers so much on all these fronts.

That said, other levels probably come closer to perfection in certain areas, such as the intense atmospheric effects in levels like post-apocalyptic, or the addictive replayability of survival levels like Canyon Jazz. And this makes it all the more impossible to say how one level could be the single best. It's like asking what's the single best species of dog...I'm just thankful we all have so many choices.

pamat1
11-15-2009, 08:07 AM
The miracle of life by poms!

julesyjules
11-15-2009, 01:29 PM
Regarding the votes being biased, I just assumed it was intentional. LPBC is (as far as I know) the biggest concentration of creators out there, and here's a chance to get a level some recognition (for what, i have no idea) as voted for by creators, rather than the LBP population as a whole (which decides every day for better or worse with hearts, plays and ratings).

goldenclaw13
11-15-2009, 05:57 PM
Well, I got my first two:

1 - Mrsupercomputer's "Zephyr Valley"
2 - Wexfordian's "Pinball wizard 2" (Was playing it yesterday :)

My 3rd will/may be edited in here later...depending on if I find a third...

Incinerator22
11-15-2009, 06:38 PM
Very well.... I'll only vote because I don't want some bomb survival to win, but it's hard knowing how many great levels there are out there...

1): Subterranean Setbacks by rtm223
2): Swinging Silhouette by anpostteller
3): Industrial Assistance by Jackofcourse

Kipmonlin
11-15-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm just going to clarify this for you guys a bit:

I was explicitly asked to accrue some nominations and then set up a poll and let the users decide which level was the "best". Regardless of what my personal opinion is, this is coming from Mm at least (if not Sony, through Mm) and I'm not going to say "no" because I disagree with the way it's being executed. I have and will continue to talk to Spaff about this and see if we can open things up a bit more (categories or something) but until I do, I'm going to continue to do what I was asked. If you are morally against nominating three levels that you feel stand out above the rest, then by all means, don't nominate, but please don't de-rail the thread in the process.

Yeah, categories. Academy Awards of LBP. I figured if I nominate three obscure levels they will not stand a chance at winning. Mm's picks were always lame. Drawing attention to levels that already have tens of thousands of plays. They need to find a way of promoting great levels with few plays.

CENTURION24
11-15-2009, 09:51 PM
clear the decks by ayatomark : you can find this survival challenge on the news. got first place after about 4000 tries

jumper the redzone by deboerdave : found debo's level by accidently hitting quick play who coincidentely is now a good friend. 3rd place after 5000 trys

harder lands by clarkdef : ninjamicwz showed me this level. played it 5 times and passed it 4. 5th place. the hardest level ive ever played and passed.

Syroc
11-15-2009, 10:20 PM
Did I mention Karakuri Nights by o-tera? :)

uncharted228
11-16-2009, 01:41 AM
I don't know... what about dinosaurs island? or hyper cube? There's so many good levels out there, I just don't know which ones to nominate! :/

theswweet
11-16-2009, 02:40 AM
i messaged tom stating why this is kind of stupid...no reply yet*sigh*

Morgana25
11-16-2009, 06:32 AM
ok - after a lot of thought and replays I'm going with these:

Zephyr Valley - by mrsupercomputer
Stardust - by Jaeyden
Destiny - by CCubbage/CuzFeeshe

I really want Wexfordian's The Good, The Bad, and The Sackboy 3 on there too but I can only have 3 :( (For total body of work Wex is right up there at the top) I'd really like to see MM recognize more than one but it's their competition and their rules. Best of Luck to all the nominees!

TheJollyRajah
11-16-2009, 06:44 AM
Wexfordian is probably my favorite creator. I love his style. His levels are well crafted and polished. And extremely professional.

My three picks are all the levels from his "The Good, The Bad, and The Sackboy" series.

These levels blew me away when I first played them.

Burnvictim42
11-16-2009, 07:53 AM
After a lot of thought, and in no particular order:

The Perpetual Distance (chapter 1) by Korndawwg
Kikaiwa: The Cluster by Vanemiera
Forbidden Sacrifice by Coreymill

I chose these three for a few reasons, one of which being that they are a bit older and are still awesome plays. Another being diversifying the voting pool and all that ;p

If you haven't played them, you probably should. Especially as i believe they were all spotlighted.

OmegaSlayer
11-16-2009, 10:06 AM
I'm adding Harry Potter by Nuclearfish

CCubbage
11-16-2009, 02:21 PM
Just a thought, and I think its been mentioned above - think in terms of the type of level EVERYONE can enjoy - ones that if they ended up being selected as "best level ever" people wouldn't think MM were smokin' something other than cigarettes....

As an example, I'm a HUGE fan of doboerdave's "jumper" series. I've been playing them on and off for about a year and always come back for more - but they are "niche" and will give many players in LBP a heart attack. Same with several of my levels.

Maybe in these lists, keep in mind aesthetics, gameplay, AND accessibility to a wide range of gamers.

Just a suggestion - maybe it would help keep the results as legitimate as possible.

jackofcourse
11-16-2009, 02:36 PM
Just a thought, and I think its been mentioned above - think in terms of the type of level EVERYONE can enjoy - ones that if they ended up being selected as "best level ever" people wouldn't think MM were smokin' something other than cigarettes....

As an example, I'm a HUGE fan of doboerdave's "jumper" series. I've been playing them on and off for about a year and always come back for more - but they are "niche" and will give many players in LBP a heart attack. Same with several of my levels.

Maybe in these lists, keep in mind aesthetics, gameplay, AND accessibility to a wide range of gamers.

Just a suggestion - maybe it would help keep the results as legitimate as possible.

Yep, that's what I was getting across with using Subterranean Setbacks as my example. It would actually have a BAD effect on the level if it won something like this tbh.

Mm puts it on their site > thousands of kids go and play it > 3 stars and loads of bad comments arrive!

Going to have a word with Spaff and see what he says :)

ConfusedCartman
11-16-2009, 02:42 PM
I had another chat with Spaff and while the details are to remain private (for now), trust Spaff on this one - there's a bigger plan here than what we're immediately aware of. ;)

jackofcourse
11-16-2009, 02:44 PM
I had another chat with Spaff and while the details are to remain private, trust Spaff on this one - there's a bigger plan here than what we're immediately aware of. ;)

haha yes he's just said the same thing to me when I said I'd come to shout at him... :)

EviLPaNda
11-16-2009, 03:37 PM
What an amazingly hard question to ponder, I'll have to give my list a run through and single out my fav's.

waD_Delma
11-16-2009, 03:49 PM
Ancient Castle - OIL_
Swinging Silhouette - anposteller
Subterranean Setback - rtm223

Syroc
11-16-2009, 04:26 PM
Just a thought, and I think its been mentioned above - think in terms of the type of level EVERYONE can enjoy - ones that if they ended up being selected as "best level ever" people wouldn't think MM were smokin' something other than cigarettes....

As an example, I'm a HUGE fan of doboerdave's "jumper" series. I've been playing them on and off for about a year and always come back for more - but they are "niche" and will give many players in LBP a heart attack. Same with several of my levels.

Maybe in these lists, keep in mind aesthetics, gameplay, AND accessibility to a wide range of gamers.

Just a suggestion - maybe it would help keep the results as legitimate as possible.
That's why I mentioned Kakuri Nights by o-tera. Pretty, accessible and fun. :)

NinjaMicWZ
11-16-2009, 06:26 PM
"H.A.T.E." by Voltiare
"sackboy's inferno episode two" by sighwhatever
"Zephyr Valley" by MrSuperComputer

I'm sorry to Lost Tomb of Anubis and Ancient Castle, and others... but there you have it.

Fester21
11-16-2009, 06:33 PM
The good the bad the sackboy 3 by wexfordian (if i could choose more i would include pinball wizards 1 = 2 and the little big matrix and wizard of odd and mm's new level pack - all of them really)
Hyper cube by mrsspookybuz (if i could choose more i would include hyper sphere and project prelude and genesis and if i could choose loads all of her levels)
and compherc's Aperture Science trilogy (did I say it right?)
There are loads more I would choose if only I had more to choose for!!

comphermc
11-16-2009, 06:43 PM
compherc

Close enough... :)

Thanks.

AgentBanana
11-16-2009, 08:00 PM
My super awesome list of doom includes:

The Scary Factory Overlooking the Small Village by Geosautus
Zephr Valley by MrSuperComputer
Temple of Magic by RioLotta

Apologies if I spelled anything rong.

KoRnDawwg
11-16-2009, 08:25 PM
Wow, such competitiveness...Yay?

Not entirely fair to restrict this to merely a few levels, I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and...




...on and on and on. But meh, I may as well.

- Spectral Fear by Crow-
- Intermediate Pack by Logitech
- Ancient Ruins by rattletrap

Miglioshin
11-16-2009, 09:20 PM
- Vagrant Hero serie (let's say chapter 2) by GEK83

This serie made me say "WOW" after a year of playing, after I had seen hundreds of levels!!

- Maxed Out by Qugz

Why no one mentioned this!?
I think it represents the spirit of lbp (gaddering around and having fun, with tecnically awesome machines!)

I can't think of a third atm.

In fact it would be better for a top 100 for each category (with a million+ levels out there...) there will be however a 1st, but at least I can mention all the levels seems to me that deserves a chance to be the best ever created until now.

I'm tempted to mention one among mines, but they are really not
'random-user-friendly'... lol

NinjaAssassin26
11-16-2009, 10:10 PM
Optical Illusions by EviLPaNda
A Darker Existence by PCAwesome
77 Seconds by SHENOA77

Incinerator22
11-17-2009, 02:49 AM
Just a thought, and I think its been mentioned above - think in terms of the type of level EVERYONE can enjoy - ones that if they ended up being selected as "best level ever" people wouldn't think MM were smokin' something other than cigarettes....

As an example, I'm a HUGE fan of doboerdave's "jumper" series. I've been playing them on and off for about a year and always come back for more - but they are "niche" and will give many players in LBP a heart attack. Same with several of my levels.

Maybe in these lists, keep in mind aesthetics, gameplay, AND accessibility to a wide range of gamers.

Just a suggestion - maybe it would help keep the results as legitimate as possible.

Subbteranean Setbacks for instance couldn't possible give more hints...

Obvious camera zones-
Point bubbles that lead the way-
Even text brilliantly triggered after chains of deaths and completed objectives.

That level provides lots of hints and seems like it'd be enjoyable to just about every skill level except noobasaurus rex. I completely object to basing our choices off difficulty...

Actually your post is a great example of why this thread fails. Your opinion of the best level and my opinion are very different. But you are suggesting guidlines which we definitely need.

CCubbage
11-17-2009, 03:35 AM
Subbteranean Setbacks for instance couldn't possible give more hints...

Obvious camera zones-
Point bubbles that lead the way-
Even text brilliantly triggered after chains of deaths and completed objectives.

That level provides lots of hints and seems like it'd be enjoyable to just about every skill level except noobasaurus rex. I completely object to basing our choices off difficulty...

Actually your post is a great example of why this thread fails. Your opinion of the best level and my opinion are very different. But you are suggesting guidlines which we definitely need.
Not a great example. Subterranian setbacks is also one of my favorites.... it's definately in my top 20. I tried to build a list based on well-rounded levels that everyone could enjoy so they would have a shot at helping this project.

But, once again.... just throwing it out there to see if it helps. Obviously if people make their choices, it has to be THEIR choices.

Jaeyden
11-17-2009, 06:12 AM
Hmmm. I don't think a best level is possible but my favorites would be.

1. Basilisk Bog by Mrsupercomputer
2. Hanasaka by Fulen
3. Innocent Cows Mysteriously Kidnapped by Tabulator_AT

Wish this was a creator poll so I could vote for my :star::star::star::star::star: fave's like Julesy, Morgana, Cubbage, ZX497, Gevurah, Wyth, Evil_Panda, Wexfordian, Centurion, debo, Ninja, Spooky, Milton, Misty, DFL, OCK, Ranger, Shen, Kappa, Gruntos...these guys make awesome levels and incredible series.

So much good stuff......

OmegaSlayer
11-17-2009, 08:17 AM
Yeah, this stuff is a PITA, but I thought that the best level is something that you have to introduce to people that didn't play the game.
I don't need to know what's the best level, because there are tons of cool levels, but I think that if I had to show someone that didn't ever play the game what can be done with LBP stuff, I'd choose the 3 I mentioned in my post, that are also level without use of glitches, that is important for new users.

wexfordian
11-17-2009, 09:25 AM
OK, in no particular order as their all so very different...

Warzone 2 Trailer by Johnee

Hypercube by MrsSpookybuz

Libidius by RR30000

Alec
11-17-2009, 03:51 PM
This is very Hard to choose a level. There are so many good levels out there!

Syroc
11-17-2009, 03:57 PM
Warzone 2 Trailer by Johnee

As if he needs any more recognition. :P

Besides it's not even playable. :)

wexfordian
11-17-2009, 04:00 PM
As if he needs any more recognition. :P

Besides it's not even playable. :)

The question was what I thought was the best, not who I thought needed recognition ;)

The fact he has gotten so much recognition already only supports my argument that he has created some of the best levels?

CCubbage
11-17-2009, 04:05 PM
The question was what I thought was the best, not who I thought needed recognition ;)

The fact he has gotten so much recognition already only supports my argument that he has created some of the best levels?
True.... but will MM cause a big riff if the level they name as "best" is designed by their own employee?
:eek:

Syroc
11-17-2009, 04:05 PM
The question was what I thought was the best, not who I thought needed recognition ;)

The fact he has gotten so much recognition already only supports my argument that he has created some of the best levels?
Yes?

:p

I'm only kidding anyway. Your choice who you nominate.

wexfordian
11-17-2009, 04:07 PM
True.... but will MM cause a big riff if the level they name as "best" is designed by their own employee?
:eek:

Not if its voted the best by the general public.

Syroc
11-17-2009, 04:09 PM
The general public being LBPC members as far as we know so far. ^.^

wexfordian
11-17-2009, 04:10 PM
The general public being LBPC members as far as we know so far. ^.^

hehe... yeah... well...true....:)

Isn't it a bit weird that we are asked and nothing was said about it on LBW??? Whats that about?

Syroc
11-17-2009, 04:18 PM
Oh, who know what the sneaky ConfusedCartman is up to again. Can't trust these Cartmans. Especially the confused ones. Sneaky tricksters is what they are.

chimpskylark
11-17-2009, 05:04 PM
Aaaaaah... I'll go consulted the hearted page...

CCubbage
11-17-2009, 06:11 PM
Not if its voted the best by the general public.
It would definately deserve it - I didn't think it was a general public vote. If so, absolutely.

poms
11-17-2009, 07:08 PM
Well, I'll vote for the following:

- Yggdrasyl - dan_e2040
- DR: The Lab - Steve_big_guns
- Flaming Timberland II - Jackofcourse

Not too original xD, and I know I'm missing tons of great levels... but I'd take this tree to a desert island xDD

shropshirelass
11-17-2009, 07:48 PM
OK, here's my vote:

Sacky Potter and the Philosopher's Sponge by Nuclearfish
Stardust by Jaeyden
Basilisk Bog by Mrsupercomputer

That was so hard. There are so many levels I wanted to include (a lot of them too little known to have a chance of winning) but there you go...

SPONGMONKEY56
11-17-2009, 07:54 PM
Its got to be:
1. Post-apocalyptic by antposteller (for its incredible use of lighting and the 50 layer glitch. The mines and the bit when the car blows up is awesome!)
2. A royal love letter: The swampy depth by Mamett-box (because of it's unique, quirky character design and level mechanics. The ancient machinery part is my favourite.)
3. The Untenanted by Veraegic (because my half eaten lunch ended up in my bowels. I hadn't even digested it! It's that scary!

God, that was hard. Real passion went into these levels. I'm surprised everything works! :eek:

dorien
11-17-2009, 08:51 PM
Glad this thread got back on track :D

Just read through the whole 11 pages (as I've been away for a few days) and this has been interesting lol

I ain't voting, as I haven't played hardly enough levels (even though I'm a big fan of LBP)

What I will say though is, whoever wins, deserves everything they get :) (and I mean all the nice stuff and not all the hater stuff they will get too :()

javi haguse
11-17-2009, 09:06 PM
geez.. this is a tough one..

1. The Lost Tomb of Anubis - Nattura
2. Manufactured Madness - mrsupercomputer
3. Illumina Gardens 2 - Shadowflare (or something, don't remember his name.. i'm at work.)

jwwphotos
11-17-2009, 10:36 PM
Well.. I have stayed out of this up till now because I felt the way Keldur and Kiminski did. There is really no way to have one best level, especially considering genre. To me it is like picking your favorite song or food. For me it is usually the one I haven't heard or eaten yet. I would rather see a top 100 favorites from the LBPC community as it seems friendlier and friendly is what personifies LBPC above any other LBP site.

However, after reading some of the posts as well as the update by CC I am compelled to make a choice. If nothing else to help represent LBPC a bit better with more votes cast. Sorta like voting for President, sometimes I don't like any of them, but I feel it my civic duty to cast a vote. ;)

Zephyr Valley - by mrsupercomputer
Stardust - by Jaeyden
The Good, The Bad, and The Sackboy 3 - Wexfordian

Obviously there are many more that I would easily be able to substitute on any given day, but today is Tuesday and these are my choices for today.

Syroc
11-17-2009, 10:59 PM
If nothing else to help represent LBPC a bit better with more votes cast. There is noone else you can represent right now. ;)

Sorta like voting for President, [...] I don't like any of them [...]

Zephyr Valley - by mrsupercomputer
Stardust - by Jaeyden
The Good, The Bad, and The Sackboy 3 - Wexfordian
You don't like any of those three? :eek:



:p

qrtda235566
11-18-2009, 01:06 AM
What? No love for Manufactured Madness?

Manufactured Madness by Mrsupercomputer
Tree Fortress 2 by Splapp-me-do
Attack of the Flying Donkeys by LordMagicPants

SteveBigGuns
11-18-2009, 01:33 AM
Maxed out 3 - Qugz
The Miracle of Life - Poms

I need to replay some levels before I can select a third.

jwwphotos
11-18-2009, 03:15 PM
There is noone else you can represent right now. ;)



.....yes, I realize that! I meant by more folks voting you have a better survey of the picks by the LBPC community. :p



You don't like any of those three? :eek:

:p

LOL!!! ...well, it would be a bit weird if I voted for myself! ...so these are an ok substitute. :rolleyes: :p

javi haguse
11-18-2009, 06:13 PM
LOL!!! ...well, it would be a bit weird if I voted for myself! ...so these are an ok substitute. :rolleyes: :p

LOL that was my train of thought.. jk!

Asbestos101
11-18-2009, 06:56 PM
I would rather see a top 100 favorites from the LBPC community as it seems friendlier and friendly is what personifies LBPC above any other LBP site.

So long as it was the top 100, in no particular order.
Else you'd get;

"Why is my super fabulous '12 weeks of hard work' level below that stupid race level?"
or
"But that level's been out longer so thats why it's got more plays, that doesn't make it better than mine!"

I'd really get behind a top 100 LBP community picks.

jwwphotos
11-18-2009, 07:09 PM
So long as it was the top 100, in no particular order.

Exactly.. Thanks for adding that!

Maybe just list them alphabetical by creator or level title. Even better if it was broken into genres!!

javi haguse
11-18-2009, 07:10 PM
yea!
That way I would have a chance in the "Scary" category..

Asbestos101
11-18-2009, 10:13 PM
yea!
That way I would have a chance in the "Scary" category..

And i'd have a chance in the "Frustrating Survival" category :rolleyes:

qrtda235566
11-19-2009, 01:07 AM
And I'd have a chance in "mediocre Panda levels made by a creator whose username begins with an A and ends with a wesomemans.

Incinerator22
11-19-2009, 01:37 AM
And I'd have a chance in "mediocre Panda levels made by a creator whose username begins with an A and ends with a wesomemans.

How funny would it be if you failed that contest, lol

javi haguse
11-19-2009, 04:23 AM
How funny would it be if you failed that contest, lol

"Mediocre Pandas at Night" by AAAAwesomemans would definitely win that one! lmao

ConfusedCartman
11-19-2009, 04:53 AM
I extended nominations an extra day because instead of us picking a final "winner", we'll just be sending the top three nominations over to Media Molecule. I'm now closing nominations, and I'll tally the results soon and send them off to Mm. From there, who knows what will happen with them? ;)