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Lleonard Pler
12-07-2009, 11:31 PM
"The Harp of Seasons" is my new level after "The Frozen Kingdom of Skadi", which received a generally positive feedback. In the "The Harp of Seasons", you explore an abandoned dig site to reveal the secret entrance to the Temple of Dagda. You're looking for a celtic artifact that can control the weather...

PSN ID: Lleonard
Map: The Harp of Seasons

EDIT: Level fixed! The door of the temple should open now for everyone. Thanks for your patience. I hope all of you can enjoy the level now.

EDIT 2: Adding some pictures of my level:

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Because of the editor issues, I'm not as satisfied with "The Harp of Seasons" as I was with my first level, but I hope you enjoy it anyway. This will be my last level until Sony releases a definitive patch for the game that solves all the problems.

This was supposed to be a long, complex and epic level, inspired by St. Francis Folly of the first Tomb Raider: a giant hall connecting to themed areas full of puzzles and situations about each theme. But because of the many bugs of the editor that kept on breaking most parts of my level, I had to cut out entire sections, simplify puzzles and modify everything into a more boring environment. Thus, themed areas became small rooms, most puzzles disappeared or became a shadow of what I intended, etc...

It has been a nightmare and I almost quited a couple of times. But after so many hours already invested in the level, I made an extra effort to finish it. This is the result. I know it could be much more polished, and certain sections would benefit from further tweaking. But currently I'm afraid to touch anything. With so many bugs, whenever I changed thing A, then thing B broke and I had to rebuild it, which in turn caused thing C to disappear and thing D to fall apart. I managed to make everything work, even if it's not perfect.

Anyway, like I said: I hope you enjoy the level despite all the unintended flaws.

PokerPolo
12-08-2009, 01:59 AM
I didn't rate it yet but so far you get a 4/5. But, I couldn't finish it because the door won;t open when I put the two symbols in.

ryryryan
12-08-2009, 03:11 AM
Just playing through at the moment. The puzzle with the rocks going up and down that squish you... when you get to the purple thing at the end the magic mouth is censored. What did it say? You'll have to change it obviously.

So far... AMAZING. Going back to play now - will update post.

Lleonard Pler
12-08-2009, 10:10 AM
I didn't rate it yet but so far you get a 4/5. But, I couldn't finish it because the door won;t open when I put the two symbols in.

Don't tell me that! I had many problems with that puzzle because the mechanism kept breaking, but at last I managed to make it work and tested it a lot just to be sure. The door should take a couple of seconds to open after you input the correct symbols... :(

For now, try entering them in a different order. And just to be sure, they need to be next to the check mark at the same time.


Just playing through at the moment. The puzzle with the rocks going up and down that squish you... when you get to the purple thing at the end the magic mouth is censored. What did it say? You'll have to change it obviously.

It said nothing too important: "Well done. Now you can grab the gift of Autumn: grapes". I guess that it's censored because "grapes" includes "rape"... :mad:

Thank you both for playing!

merkaba48
12-08-2009, 02:50 PM
Really really good, great use of the space to provide some interesting paths. Unfortunately, the door did not open for me either, unless I was doing something wrong? (SPOILER!: Fire on left, Swirly thing on right)
I could not easily tell if 'wiggling' the pieces fixed it, as the camera doesn't show the door. If a camera turned on when the door opened, which focused on the door, that would be a definate improvement.

I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the level, and the rest of your levels. Great stuff, love it :)

Lleonard Pler
12-08-2009, 03:18 PM
A magic mouth activates when you match the correct symbols, with a custom camera showing that the door is now open.

I don't know why it works for some people and it doesn't work for others. I tested it again four times and it always works for me. It would be strange... if the editor wasn't so full of bugs.

Just to be sure:

SPOILERS OF THE DOOR PUZZLE

Left wheel: Fire symbol, pointing to the left (next to the sticker-mark on the wall).
Right wheel: Whirlpool symbol, pointing to the right (next to the sticker-mark on the wall)

.......X.............X
FIRE....X.......X....WHIRLPOOL
.......X.............X

Thanks for playing it anyway, you might like to try my first level, bug-free: "The Frozen Kingdom of Skadi". I posted it here:

http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19384

Coxy224
12-08-2009, 05:11 PM
Hmmm, looks like people are having the same problem as me. But this level is gorgeous and well made and just great. Wish I could get past the door :(

Still Five stars :)

ryryryan
12-08-2009, 06:09 PM
I completed it right after my last post, but then went straight to sleep :P
This level truly is magnificent. The use of stickers is the best I have seen yet, and the areas of the levels really did feel like huge tomb places. I loved it. 5 Stars, Heart, Author Heart.

Lleonard Pler
12-08-2009, 08:01 PM
I completed it right after my last post, but then went straight to sleep :P
This level truly is magnificent. The use of stickers is the best I have seen yet, and the areas of the levels really did feel like huge tomb places. I loved it. 5 Stars, Heart, Author Heart.

Thanks for your kind comments, Ryan. At least the temple door worked for someone!

Did you like the spring garden room? When Sony fixes the editor, I was thinking of making a jungle level like that.

ryryryan
12-08-2009, 09:00 PM
Thanks for your kind comments, Ryan. At least the temple door worked for someone!

Did you like the spring garden room? When Sony fixes the editor, I was thinking of making a jungle level like that.

I was actually going to say... the look and feel of that section was so brilliant it could of been it's own theme of a level. Go for it!

Lleonard Pler
12-08-2009, 10:23 PM
Ok, I made a new mechanism for the door and published the level again. Everyone should be able to beat the level now. Thanks for the feedback... and for your patience, too. Those who already had downloaded it, please do it again and tell me if you can open the door now!


I was actually going to say... the look and feel of that section was so brilliant it could of been it's own theme of a level. Go for it!

It's one of the few parts of the level that I'm really proud of (even if the original plan for that room was bigger).

If only Sony released a patch soon, I'd create that jungle level.

ryryryan
12-08-2009, 10:27 PM
Yeah I was actually really impressed with the detail in that section. Couldn't believe how you had such a jungle like feel to the level with the materials and stickers given.

jeffcu28
12-08-2009, 11:10 PM
Hey Lleonard,

What an amazing level, and that Indiana Jones-like music to go with it! I was impressed again by your sculpting skills, and that spring-room is definitely a jewel. Unlike many levels that I played, I felt this gave me a wholesome experience, and I thought it had an appropriate length despite the cutbacks you mentioned.

One thing I did notice though was that I think I was able to cheat your door mechanism. I had uncovered the first symbol and as soon as I manipulated the crane in order to cross over to the other arm, I just guessed the second symbol and the door opened. I had a hard time finding the symbol on the left hand of the statue, and I know it has something to do with those immovable rocks made of dissolve, but I never found a way to move them...is this perhaps intended so that others won't have problems entering the door? But then again, I feel all that effort to uncover the second symbol would be discarded...

Anyways, loved the concept, music, and convincing adventure you created. Five stars, author and level heart.

Blissfully lost in the spring-room,
jeffcu28

Lleonard Pler
12-08-2009, 11:31 PM
Hi Jeff, you're right. To discover the other symbol, you had to remove those rocks. (How? SPOILER Moving the first crane until the box hits the rocks and breaks them. END OF SPOILER)

The puzzle of the symbols can be cheated just by guessing (or because you already know the symbols from another playthrough), but that's why I put some bubble prizes along the way for those who still explore the whole dig site.

Anyway, thanks once more for such a detailed review! It's always great to know that people not only enjoy your level but also appreciate certain details and sections that required extra effort.

Funny thing about the Spring room is that it was a last-minute change. Originally, there was a large puzzle where you had to sort flowers and birds in a room which was rather conventional, built with the stone material and a plain green background. But I discarded the puzzle after all the problems I was experiencing in the rest of the level. Instead, I built a small garden using only one material. I decided to use the remaining 10% of the thermometer with stickers for the garden... and that was the quick, improvised result. (Then I remembered that the Winter room wasn't fully decorated, but it was too late, full thermometer, hehe.)

jeffcu28
12-08-2009, 11:52 PM
Hey again,

Okay now I feel dumb. But that makes a lot of sense. I got distracted by the functioning elevator that I simply climbed upwards and forgot everything else in that area. But that doesn't change the integrity of this level one bit, I guess the error was my part. I'm glad to hear that the Spring room was improvised last minute and that it inspires you to create a whole new level once the glitches have been ironed out. It comforts me to know that exceptional creators like you don't have everything planned out and epiphany can strike at any moment.

Looking forward to that other level,
jeffcu28

Taffey
12-09-2009, 12:38 AM
Wow. I am truly, totally impressed with this level! This is staying on my PSP until 250 levels better than it are published... which honestly just isn't going to happen.

First of all the overall dig site environment you created is just amazing. I can't believe you did all that with only 2 thick layers. The layering and illusion of depth is so good I actually found myself counting at one point. :blush: The camera angles are superb, the platforming is fun and challenging without being hair-pulling in any way, and the exploration factor is fantastic. I enjoyed getting lost and poking around trying to find clues. Hmm, no clues here... oh, but there's point bubbles! Very fun to explore and generally just enjoy the scenery. Once I got the door open (more on that in a moment), I could hardly believe there was a whole other half to the level. You really stuffed a lot of goodness into the thermometer on this one. The four season-themed rooms are spectacular (the spring one is fabulous of course, but the others are darned good too).

As for the bad parts, there aren't many. Like many others here, the door didn't work for me the first run through, but that was about 6 hours ago - before your most recent publish. It didn't open at all the first play through, and the second play it opened with the wrong symbols. The only other goof I noticed was the censored "grapes" mouth, but you've already fixed that as well. My last complaint is that you've said you aren't going to make any more levels until a patch comes out! Agh, no! I know create mode is annoying, but there are work arounds for 95% of the bugs, including those affecting your logic mechanisms. I believe Sony/Cambridge has said a patch isn't likely until January, and I just have to see more of your stuff sooner than that.

This level is just an absolute blast to play and miles better than any of the story mode levels for sure. 5 stars, hearted, and creator heart no question.

ryryryan
12-09-2009, 02:14 AM
Hah, what do you know, I also didn't do the level right first time around. I guessed the second symbol cause I actually forgot about the other section! I wondered why you made the right crate moveable :P

Anyway, level re-downloaded and done. Once again, was bugless for me and just as fun as before :) Really fantastic level. 5 Stars and a heart. Love the look of the jungle room alot as stated before.

Lleonard Pler
12-11-2009, 12:53 PM
I added some pictures of my level to the first post, so people who haven't played it yet can get an idea of what to expect.

Arrestor
12-11-2009, 01:14 PM
I really liked it too.
Just the right balanced difficulty!

Nice one!

Sackwise
12-14-2009, 03:11 AM
O.M.G.
Astounding!
5/5 and <3

Gilgamesh
12-16-2009, 02:26 PM
This level is amazing! The puzzles and challenges are unique and interesting. The visuals are also great.

:star::star::star::star::star: and ♥'ed, it was a fun adventure. :)

amazingflyingpoo
12-19-2009, 11:13 AM
I loved "The Frozen Kingdom of Skadi" so I was super excited to play this level tonight. Overall, the level was outstanding, but I got stuck because of one glitch, and it ruined the experience for a while (I know you hate to hear that since you will most likely not be republishing, but it seems no one else ran into the issue, so it must not be a big deal). When I was turning on the power, the power to the crane (the left cell) fell like it should have when I grabbed the disappearing material, but when I grabbed the right disappearing material, the cell did not fall. I just assumed that it wasn't supposed to fall since it didn't, and I ended up running around the level for about 10 minutes getting very agitated before I finally ended up jumping around in the area with the cell and it fell down.

If I had not run into that issue, I think that the level would have been one of my best experiences on PSP (second only to The Frozen Kingdom of Skadi :)).

Either way, the level is 5 stars and heated

Lleonard Pler
12-19-2009, 12:26 PM
That's a very strange glitch and beyond my possibilities, I'm afraid. I don't understand why a fuse would get stuck. Both fuses should fall once you remove the dissolve material blockling them, because they're smaller than the box and the edges of the box are straight, there's nothing else blocking the fuses. Strange. Thanks for pointing that out, though. I'm sorry that you couldn't enjoy the level in its entirety. Luckily, it looks like a very rare bug and no one else has suffered it...

Now I'm creating my third level, and the editor is working fine so far, no bugs encountered yet. I'm very happy with how the level is progressing and hope to finish it along next week. This time, you must cross an intrincate sewer to locate a mythical garden...

Numbhead
12-20-2009, 09:42 PM
This was definitely one of the most, if not the most, artistic levels I have played on either version of LBP! :)



Now I'm creating my third level, and the editor is working fine so far, no bugs encountered yet. I'm very happy with how the level is progressing and hope to finish it along next week. This time, you must cross an intrincate sewer to locate a mythical garden...

SWEET! I was beginning to get worried that you were not going to make another level until the next patch was released.:p

Domik12
12-23-2009, 02:29 PM
Lleonard Pler, it's one of the best level I ever play on psp lbp! Thanks from Russia and from bear too!:)

Rogar
12-30-2009, 11:35 PM
This level is brilliant! The temple entrance area was very impressive, I love that feel that there's so many places to go and do, and you're not sure where to start, or how to get everywhere. The second symbol was tricky, but I managed to figure it out. And then, when I got in and expected a bit of platforming to the end, there's an even larger, prettier area! I'm gonna forgive the ice maze and give you 5 stars and hearted! :)

You say you won't update the level, but I'll let you know anyway: At the temple entrance I managed to get stuck inside the scenery by jumping from the blue crane into the red. I got a peak at the next area, but it's not game-breaking. And I got the completion message for the ice maze early, its range must be too large.

Lleonard Pler
12-31-2009, 09:29 AM
Thanks for playing and commenting! I would republish the level if they did it like in the PS3 version, where you could update levels without losing the played & hearted data.

Beed28
01-03-2010, 12:22 AM
Played through this level. Out of the four levels I downloaded so far, this was ace, considering how many bugs and any other insects :p the Creator Mode has. I loved how the level was split into 'two half's', with the outside archeological dig and the interior of the ruins. :) The puzzles were top notch as well. But...

When I found one symbol (the fire), it was very easy to guess the other one (whirlpool), even by accident.

Other than that, very good level and I rated :star::star::star::star::star:

;)

himoks
03-11-2010, 01:34 PM
Great level! 5 stars and heart