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ConfusedCartman
01-07-2010, 08:07 PM
Our server load is spiking way too high at the moment, and it seems to be due to CometChat. I'm going to disable it for now and see how our server does, and if that's the problem, then we'll take steps to fix it. Thanks for bearing with us.

EDIT: I have some good news, some bad news, and some more good news:

Good News #1: CometChat was the source of our problems, which means the site should not have any more issues from here on out.

Bad News: We will not be re-enabling CometChat.

Good News #2: A new, very similar but much improved chat software has been announced (it's called ArrowChat (http://www.arrowchat.com/) - by a customer of CometChat who discovered he could do better), and after much discussion with the developer about how it handles server loads and things like that, I have purchased two licenses. When it releases (roughly a month from now), we will have an in-site chat option again.

jwwphotos
01-07-2010, 08:19 PM
Our server load is spiking way too high at the moment, and it seems to be due to CometChat. I'm going to disable it for now and see how our server does, and if that's the problem, then we'll take steps to fix it. Thanks for bearing with us.

Just an fyi.. Still getting errors without CometChat. Good luck!

rseah
01-07-2010, 08:22 PM
o well i was wondering why it didn't pop up :p

Alec
01-07-2010, 08:56 PM
o well i was wondering why it didn't pop up :p

Same! :)

ConfusedCartman
01-07-2010, 11:38 PM
I have some good news, some bad news, and some more good news:

Good News #1: CometChat was the source of our problems, which means the site should not have any more issues from here on out.

Bad News: We will not be re-enabling CometChat.

Good News #2: A new, very similar but much improved chat software has been announced (it's called ArrowChat (http://www.arrowchat.com/) - by a customer of CometChat who discovered he could do better), and after much discussion with the developer about how it handles server loads and things like that, I have purchased two licenses. When it releases (roughly a month from now), we will have an in-site chat option again.

rseah
01-07-2010, 11:44 PM
Yay for new chat :p

thx for the quick fix cc

comphermc
01-07-2010, 11:52 PM
Hm... I was wondering all along if it was cometchat, but didn't know enough about whatever was going wrong to say something. If you all recall, the problems started just after we got cometchat. Makes sense, right?

Glad it's resolved.

:)

RockSauron
01-08-2010, 12:01 AM
Well, I suppose it just has to be- the server stuff > CometChat, although Cometchat WAS useful... can't wait for Arrowcaht XD ;-;

Speaking of which, do you know if Arrowchat will have more easily reachable chat rooms? The cometchat chat rooms were... eh...

ConfusedCartman
01-08-2010, 12:29 AM
Well, I suppose it just has to be- the server stuff > CometChat, although Cometchat WAS useful... can't wait for Arrowcaht XD ;-;

Speaking of which, do you know if Arrowchat will have more easily reachable chat rooms? The cometchat chat rooms were... eh...
You know, I'm not actually sure, but it seems as if ArrowChat will be much more feature-packed and well-written. There's some awesome coding magic that goes on behind the scenes that allows it to be much lighter on the server without sacrificing functionality, and everything else I've seen screams consistent and high-quality, so I would not be surprised.

Plus, there's this preview image (http://www.arrowchat.com/images/preview3.gif) on the ArrowChat site that suggests ArrowChat will be supporting pop-out chatrooms. That in and of itself is already above and beyond what CometChat offers. :)

Memodrix
01-08-2010, 12:41 AM
And how be them licenses on The good fleet's coffers, Cap'n? Yarrr....

seeing as the others set the site back a cool $50 a pop, that is?

I mean, is it an issue?

ConfusedCartman
01-08-2010, 12:45 AM
And how be them licenses on The good fleet's coffers, Cap'n? Yarrr....

seeing as the others set the site back a cool $50 a pop, that is?

I mean, is it an issue?
No, not currently. December was a great month ad-wise, and we had a couple of big donations too, so we were able to cover it without a problem.

Memodrix
01-08-2010, 12:48 AM
Just checkin' Cap'n. yarrr.....

ok, i'm gonna quit doing that for now. its kinda annoying....

TheGrimmmReapa
01-08-2010, 02:31 AM
I really hope Arrowchat is easier than ComeChat, it was useful, but I am pretty sure it will be a great help to LBPCentral.

Zwollie
01-08-2010, 04:27 AM
Glad to see the problems are being solved, cometchat never achieved "non buggy state" either way but it was a very cool addition to the site so I hope arrowchat is an improvement.

No more internal server error, I'm glad you can't see the creepy smile on my face right now!! :D

v0rtex
01-08-2010, 04:53 AM
So then... why do I continue to see the CometChat bar on the bottom of my browser window?

ConfusedCartman
01-08-2010, 04:56 AM
So then... why do I continue to see the CometChat bar on the bottom of my browser window?
Possibly an issue with your browser ignoring comment tags. In all modern browsers, comment tags are supposed to inform the browser to ignore any content between them. I'm not sure why it's not working out that way. I'll just remove the code altogether.

v0rtex
01-08-2010, 04:59 AM
Possibly an issue with your browser ignoring comment tags. In all modern browsers, comment tags are supposed to inform the browser to ignore any content between them. I'm not sure why it's not working out that way. I'll just remove the code altogether.
Huh... ok. Google Chrome w/the latest update, so I don't know why it should behave unusually. Odd...

ConfusedCartman
01-08-2010, 05:10 AM
Huh... ok. Google Chrome w/the latest update, so I don't know why it should behave unusually. Odd...
Yeah, that is odd. In any case, it's been fixed (well, it should be - let me know).

Zwollie
01-08-2010, 05:20 AM
It's also fixed in Opera now so I think you're clear all around.

ConfusedCartman
01-08-2010, 05:24 AM
Please ignore the last bit of downtime - that was manually done by me. I had to reset in order to effect some server changes I made.

Morgana25
01-08-2010, 05:24 AM
lol k - was just coming in to say it went down. Way to be on top of things CC :)

TripleTremelo
01-08-2010, 05:57 AM
I too hope the new program will have better chat rooms. It would be great to have some chat rooms to talk with everyone here. I don't mean user created private chats, just like a general chat room I can click on and start talking to people about LBP.

v0rtex
01-08-2010, 07:17 AM
Yeah, that is odd. In any case, it's been fixed (well, it should be - let me know).
Yep - it's gone now. Thanks!

supersickie
01-08-2010, 12:33 PM
Stupid CometChat! :p

Good to see we'll be getting a seemingly slimmer chat option too in the near future. Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Cartman!

Doopz
01-08-2010, 03:50 PM
Yay! I'm exited to see what it's gonna be like!

ARD
01-08-2010, 04:48 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up just yet ;)

Doopz
01-08-2010, 05:08 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up just yet ;)

Or are you?

RockSauron
01-13-2010, 09:04 PM
I've been looking around the arrowchat site and forum, and I read that it will be released February 5th. :kz:

http://www.arrowchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19

Doopz
01-13-2010, 09:08 PM
Aww that's too long for me... i miss chat already :(

RockSauron
01-28-2010, 02:11 PM
Methinks some people forgot this existed... :p

So yeah, me and my sneaky ways have found out that ArrowChat is currently set for February 19th, having been delayed two weeks so it's better...

And also, in case anyone is interested, I have a list of new features Arrowchat is currently confirmed to have ^-^

http://www.arrowchat.com/index.php?do=features

YAY. ... Yep, I can't wait till chat comes back :p

Zwollie
01-28-2010, 02:20 PM
Really looking forward to this as cleaning out my PM box each day is a pain.

Thanks Rock!! :cool:

jwwphotos
01-28-2010, 02:57 PM
Yeah no kidding!! When chat first came out I was like "what the?" ...now I am horribly lost having to find folks and leave messages. Bleah!!

Thanks Rock!

RockSauron
01-28-2010, 11:14 PM
Yep, definitively looking to be so much better- especially if it doesn't have the same horrible server issues cometchat did.

So... will we have the applications part of the chatbar? XD. Or just other stuff?

The pop out windows look like they'll be cool too- especially since it looks like GROUP CHAT THAT DOESN'T SUCK! :D

... yeah. Anywho, um... yeah.

I unno what applications there would be really... it'd be nice if somehow someone made one related to LBP and we got that here... but that's not too likely.

Anyway... even without the apps/games, Arrowchat looks to be heaps better then cometchat :kz:

v0rtex
01-28-2010, 11:19 PM
Really looking forward to this as cleaning out my PM box each day is a pain.
You could try not being so darned popular.

jwwphotos
01-28-2010, 11:44 PM
You could try not being so darned popular.

Or sending so many top secret messages!! LOL! :)

Zwollie
01-29-2010, 09:40 AM
You could try not being so darned popular.

*Insert snappy comeback here*

KQuinn94Z
01-29-2010, 10:12 AM
'Your Face' always works.

Doopz
01-29-2010, 08:26 PM
Nah more like ya face! or ya mum! your just sounds silly.

This looks really cool thanks for telling us about the features!

EDIT: OMG! You can play games on it! look:12179
Ok the picture is really small so find it here (http://www.arrowchat.com/index.php?do=screenshots). Scroll down to the pictures and you'll find it under "chat bar"

RockSauron
01-29-2010, 08:34 PM
Nah more like ya face! or ya mum! your just sounds silly.

This looks really cool thanks for telling us about the features!

EDIT: OMG! You can play games on it! look:12179

Well, in theory, you can do ANYTHING on it. I don't sue facebook (big gasp!), but it's like that in which you can download "apps". Obviously, CC would be the one to make these apps available to us. But people can make apps like games and whatever as long as they can program it. Then they will be upload it to the store on the arrowchat themesite, where other people who own arrowchat can purchase apps and themes for their websites, either for a fee or for free.

Obviously, only site owners have access to the store, so it is up to CC what apps we'll have.

Doopz
01-29-2010, 08:37 PM
CC if someone makes anything to do with littlebigplanet can you buy it?

ConfusedCartman
01-29-2010, 09:14 PM
CC if someone makes anything to do with littlebigplanet can you buy it?
If anyone makes a LittleBigPlanet app, it will probably be me before anyone else. LBPC is the biggest LBP fansite on the internet, and it's due to the size of our community and the generosity of its members that we can even afford things like this. I don't think anyone else using Arrowchat will be even remotely involved in the LBP community.

RockSauron
01-29-2010, 09:28 PM
If anyone makes a LittleBigPlanet app, it will probably be me before anyone else. LBPC is the biggest LBP fansite on the internet, and it's due to the size of our community and the generosity of its members that we can even afford things like this. I don't think anyone else using Arrowchat will be even remotely involved in the LBP community.

Considering the fact that there are only 3 LBP fansites (fansites so not LBW) that are in the least bit active, and neither of the other two seem to have this, I'd say that's a probability.

However, I don't know how likely this would be, but i posted in the Sackpad thread about the possibility of a Sackpad app for here. That'd be cool if we could incorporate that into LBPC somehow.

Then, when the Online "Sackbook" finally comes out, if you could somehow negotiate with MM about making an app for LBPC that is linked to said "Sackbook". That would be beyond awesome if possible.

either way... either app or no app... I still can't wait for chat to return (and like 10000 times better).

Doopz
02-04-2010, 08:50 PM
Just thought i would mention it's been delayed :(


In order to pack even more features and quality into the first release of ArrowChat, we regretfully are going to delay the release date by two weeks. Our new anticipated launch date is February 19th, 2010. We understand a lot of people are anxious to get their hands on ArrowChat, but this will ultimately make a better product in the end.

One of the main reasons for this delay is the applications feature. This is a complex feature, and we need more time to make developing applications easier for anyone who wishes to make apps for the store.

We know everyone will be extremely impressed with the quality of ArrowChat, and we know it will be worth the extra wait. The ArrowChat Team highly expects to release on or before February 19th without further delay. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

The good news is that we've released a new screenshot which can be viewed on our homepage screenshot section.

Source (http://www.arrowchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19)

RockSauron
02-04-2010, 09:12 PM
Just thought i would mention it's been delayed :(



Source (http://www.arrowchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19)

Yep, already said that... Still, um... uh... Yeah, /runs

Doopz
02-04-2010, 09:26 PM
Yep, already said that... Still, um... uh... Yeah, /runs

No ya didn't. You said when it was coming 5th of february. Been delayed to whatever i said...

RockSauron
02-04-2010, 09:33 PM
No ya didn't. You said when it was coming 5th of february. Been delayed to whatever i said...

Checkmate (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?20972-CometChat-Load-Issues&p=380868&viewfull=1#post380868)

At any rate... Hm, CC, what would be the possibility of a LBP app? Possibly of incorporating Sackpad somehow? Would this be a possibility or a definite no?

ConfusedCartman
02-04-2010, 11:18 PM
Hm, CC, what would be the possibility of a LBP app? Possibly of incorporating Sackpad somehow? Would this be a possibility or a definite no?
We're looking into it. There's no way I can make promises until I get to play with applications myself, but if it works the way I think it works then incorporating a Sackpad app should be pretty easy.

rseah
02-05-2010, 06:56 AM
how long do you think it will take to add the chat to the site when it comes out?

ConfusedCartman
02-05-2010, 01:47 PM
how long do you think it will take to add the chat to the site when it comes out?
From the time I start installing it, about 30 minutes to an hour. From the time it releases, I can't say for sure, but definitely on the same day.

rseah
02-05-2010, 07:01 PM
great thx :D

RockSauron
02-16-2010, 09:43 PM
Muhahahha! Yeah, now it's being delayed to the 26th... D:

Fenderjt
02-16-2010, 10:03 PM
ooooh maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan lol

Doopz
02-16-2010, 10:26 PM
Well look at it on the bright side, the more it's delayed the better it will be ;)

Doopz
02-25-2010, 09:06 PM
Now being delayed to March 2nd haha beat you to it Rock! Also not sure exactly what this is but is says something about a demo (http://www.arrowchat.com/index.php?do=demo)? Oh and sorry for the double post...

v0rtex
02-26-2010, 12:06 AM
I'm willing to forgive you ;)

Thanks for the update!

rseah
02-26-2010, 05:42 AM
god 2nd of march grr :O

mrsvista
03-02-2010, 05:59 PM
'Just a quick update to let everyone know that the download looks like its going to be available Wednesday morning instead of Tuesday night.'

The above quote was posted on the Arrowchat website today. Let's hope it won't be long now!

Doopz
03-02-2010, 06:03 PM
Already knew that but couldn't be bothered to post anything lol. Thanks for letting everyone know anyway.

Kern
03-02-2010, 06:08 PM
;-;

why!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

WESFUN
03-03-2010, 12:46 AM
awesome I cant wait until it comes out this is going to be awesome gj to everyone that helps with this site keep it coming.

Chump
03-03-2010, 12:57 AM
yea, since it's no more there, I'm bored ;) just kiddin'
But I can't wait too! :D

Fenderjt
03-03-2010, 11:30 AM
aww its gone past the morning here and no chat?? Will it be here by tonight do you think?

comphermc
03-03-2010, 12:09 PM
We have to wait for CC to actually acquire the license, the add-on, and then implement it into the system. And, since he has school, I wouldn't expect until later tonight in the very least.

lbpholic
03-03-2010, 12:37 PM
Oh your talking about the new chat awesome, i thought cometchat was back but had problems cuase of name of thread :(, rename the thread or do a new one so it dosent confuse as many people like me.

Doopz
03-03-2010, 03:25 PM
Just checked the ArrowChat site and by the looks of it, it's not yet out. Probably some last minute updates but be patient and we should get it some time today...

Littlebigdude805
03-04-2010, 05:06 AM
>_< where is chat...uhg
hope its good and worth the wait

Aya042
03-04-2010, 04:45 PM
Wouldn't it be simpler, and cause zero additional load on the server, to just agree to use a specific IRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat) channel on one of the many free IRC networks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_Relay_Chat_networks) that are out there? It's a well established protocol which has existed for over 15 years, and pretty much all of the multi-protocol IM clients (e.g. Pidgin (http://www.pidgin.im/)) that are available on every platform already have IRC support.

Kern
03-04-2010, 04:50 PM
Wouldn't it be simpler, and cause zero additional load on the server, to just agree to use a specific IRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat) channel on one of the many free IRC networks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_Relay_Chat_networks) that are out there? It's a well established protocol which has existed for over 15 years, and pretty much all of the multi-protocol IM clients (e.g. Pidgin (http://www.pidgin.im/)) that are available on every platform already have IRC support.


But Arrowchat is better for our forum type of thing because it is better...

Aya042
03-04-2010, 04:57 PM
But Arrowchat is better for our forum type of thing because it is better...

Perhaps, but it's also $95, plus whatever it costs in the additional bandwidth it requires.

comphermc
03-04-2010, 05:05 PM
Well, it has been purchased already at a pre-order discount. Also, there should be an option to disable the chat if you so desire. Honestly, when it was around, chat was awesome. We had cometchat, and it was excellent,but due to some bad programming, it caused site-wide problems. We can only hope arrowchat is better.

orang3dragon612
03-04-2010, 06:39 PM
About the sack app. Some websites create special versions of the website to fit on your ipod. it may have a different format but they have all the same features.plus they work better then the regular websites.

warlord_evil
03-05-2010, 01:39 AM
Is ArrowChat already here? I was typing something and I noticed it came up at the bottom of the screen in what kinda looked like CometChat. It then dissapeared...

Well, looking forward to it.

Doopz
03-05-2010, 03:28 PM
Is ArrowChat already here? I was typing something and I noticed it came up at the bottom of the screen in what kinda looked like CometChat. It then dissapeared...

Well, looking forward to it.

You can't have it's not out yet. But speaking of that they said earlier today that it's very soon...


Just a quick update to let everyone know we're getting very close. We're finishing up the installation process and licensing then it will be ready for download.

WESFUN
03-06-2010, 02:51 AM
so when is this awesome app coming

Kern
03-06-2010, 08:33 AM
coming out on the 21st they said :p

Doopz
03-06-2010, 08:49 AM
No. The release date still says 2nd of march. So we should see it some time a few days ago maybe....

rseah
03-07-2010, 01:37 AM
yep hopefully we will

Kern
03-09-2010, 06:30 PM
Sigh... what happened, i thought it was coming out 21st February :(

Doopz
03-09-2010, 07:17 PM
The most recent date they mentioned was march 2nd. Clearly they've gone over the deadline just an ickle bit. My guess is that they all randomly exploded and were unable to finish making it.

EDIT: Just checked the site, have a lookie:


The package is now complete. We are in the process of writing some documentation and making it available in the member's area for download. This process may take some time as the download process is quite intricate in the back-end.

Doopz
03-12-2010, 09:57 PM
Again, sorry for the double post there's nothing I can do about it lol.

I think (notice think) ArrowChat is out now..... :D

RockSauron
03-12-2010, 10:00 PM
I think not. Preorders have ended, yes, but there wasn't an official announcement and stuff, so probably not yet. Plus no one posted in that topic saying they got it, so I'll assume not.

The reason it changed to Purchase is because it is so close you can't preorder anymore. Right now they're just finishing up documentation and stuff. I honestly will be suprsied if it isn't released this weekend- or at least 0.1.

Not all features will be in 0.1, but several things like chatrooms will be added in like a week or so until the "full" release.

Doopz
03-12-2010, 10:04 PM
Yeah sorry for the false alarm. :(

RockSauron
03-13-2010, 06:23 PM
Arrowchat is now released! Now we just need to wait for CC to come, then he'll install it, and we'll have it ;o. Yep. It should have been emailed to him, so... yes :kz:

http://www.arrowchat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=139

Doopz
03-13-2010, 07:22 PM
Why didn't they just release it when I thought it had been released? CC was online then!!! Ah well, good to know we'll have it soon.

EDIT: CC's online :D

FocusRSdude
08-08-2010, 02:08 AM
So I know this is a huge bump but do we have it now or did we never get it? because i can't figure out where it is or how it works.

SR20DETDOG
08-08-2010, 02:24 AM
So I know this is a huge bump but do we have it now or did we never get it? because i can't figure out where it is or how it works.

We still don't have it yet.
You'll know when we have it, it's just like the chat on facebook, and there'll probably be a thread announcing it with people going crazy:p

shadow3596
08-08-2010, 02:54 AM
hehehe
i didn't even know this but it sounds awesome!!!!

Sage
08-21-2010, 03:53 AM
There is an introduction forum you know...? For introducing yourself...

Anywho... so is this the Chat thingy B3 discovered earlier?

ConfusedCartman
08-21-2010, 06:48 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and lock this - no need to keep it open anymore.