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ConfusedCartman
03-03-2010, 07:42 PM
In the last round of voting, one of the authors was found to be altering the results through multiple accounts. The level (Dead Space: New Arrivals) has been disqualified, and our number 6 selection has taken its place. This time, we will be watching the results even more closely to avoid any more of that. The poll is now public, but the results will not be viewable by anyone (except site staff) until the voting ends. We will also be watching any new accounts made from here on out, to ensure they aren't being used to sway the voting either. A separate discussion thread (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?23438-Poll-Cheating&p=405861) exists specifically for this issue.

The 5 levels we felt stood out above the rest are listed below (in alphabetical order) with the published PSN emboldened and green.
Gone Missing by Spawner1AndOnly and X-NOBODY-X
Howdy Partners! by killzonequinn07 and Ruof
No Peg's Island by Lunieizsicc and Shris
Tricky's Temple Trials by Bakscratch and mistervista
Wooden Perception by JJohnson24 and Vandz
If you'd like to take part, play each of these five levels and decide which one you like best, then return to this thread and vote for it using the voting tools above this post. Now remember, the winning team will receive a raft of awesome prizes, including a rare LittleBigPlanet Prize Crown, so your vote counts!

Luos_83
03-03-2010, 07:44 PM
So.. (repeating myself)
how did this new list came together? (and in such a short period)

What will be the concequences besides the voting restarting? (for the cheater etc.)
because imho we should ban him hard.

Will there be an official apology from steve? as even if he didnt know what was going on, he is still part of a team that cheated.

I kinda demand more info,
sorry about that.(again)

I am not voting untill I get an apology from steve and monkeyboys,
and get more information.

imho immidiatly adding a new thread where people can vote is wrong, and you should postpone the voting untill more people will know whats up.
nobody has gotten a notification about what happened so starting the votes now is even unfair.

EDITED!

Jrange378
03-03-2010, 07:44 PM
Why was the oher one deleted? :p

Anyways, I feel bad for steve, i doubt he had anything to do with it. I guess he should have picked a more mature partner. Very lame on monkeyboys part.

CCubbage
03-03-2010, 07:50 PM
Funny.... how can people not know that there are ways of tracking these kinds of things?.... :p

Well, I'll play the other level before voting again. Want to be totally fair.

mistervista
03-03-2010, 08:06 PM
Wow that's a bolt from the blue. I just logged on for the first time tonight and this is one of the first things I see. I thought it was the same thread and was just coming to look at the latest posts. I'm shocked.

While I'm happy that our level is now included ( especially happy for bakscratch as he did the majority of it and I hope he feels a bit better about things now ) I wouldn't have wanted to get in this way. I don't expect us to win against such awesome levels but it's nice to be included in the list anyway. Thankyou.

If it was just 1 of the team that was altering the results I'm very disappointed in them but at the same time very sad for the other one as it must be heartbreaking to make such a great level and make the final only to have it scuppered by the foolish actions of your partner. Commiserations to them.

gamers_network
03-03-2010, 08:08 PM
I am Sheila Owner of LAN Center Gamers Network in Milwaukee, WI and Mother of MonkeysBoys who where the co creators of Dead Space New Arrivals and we displayed their level to be played at our Gaming Center this weekend while we had a tournament and invited people to play it and vote for it...hence the reasons for the multiple votes for them and it is just complete bull **** that they would be disqualified because we invited people to create an account after playing their level if they believed they deserved a vote in their opinion. We also invited family and friends to do the same....now is that not the point of a contest??? When we have tournaments their is always people who have perks over some but we do not disqualify them for it, it is just a part of competition. I think you should reconsider your poor decision and let the leve compete as it was...it is a great level made by talented individuals who put countless hours into it and it deserves it's change to compete! Our LAN center is games network and all our cliental and employees voted and our votes should count! Check us out and our legitimacy so you see this was not a load of crap. Look up www.gamersnetworkllc.com I am going to put on our website and facebook, fanpage, and twitter and everywhere else I can think of to say what a poor decision was made by LBP on this contest!!! Sheila Navarro

ConfusedCartman
03-03-2010, 08:13 PM
I am Sheila Owner of LAN Center Gamers Network in Milwaukee, WI and Mother of MonkeysBoys who where the co creators of Dead Space New Arrivals and we displayed their level to be played at our Gaming Center this weekend while we had a tournament and invited people to play it and vote for it...hence the reasons for the multiple votes for them and it is just complete bull **** that they would be disqualified because we invited people to create an account after playing their level if they believed they deserved a vote in their opinion. We also invited family and friends to do the same....now is that not the point of a contest??? When we have tournaments their is always people who have perks over some but we do not disqualify them for it, it is just a part of competition. I think you should reconsider your poor decision and let the leve compete as it was...it is a great level made by talented individuals who put countless hours into it and it deserves it's change to compete! Our LAN center is games network and all our cliental and employees voted and our votes should count! Check us out and our legitimacy so you see this was not a load of crap. Look up www.gamersnetworkllc.com I am going to put on our website and facebook, fanpage, and twitter and everywhere else I can think of to say what a poor decision was made by LBP on this contest!!! Sheila Navarro

I appreciate your enthusiasm Mrs. Navarro, but a simple examination of each account provides enough evidence that at least three sets of two accounts belonged to the same individual. If you can somehow prove otherwise, we will happily reverse our decision and reinstate the level, but the fact of the matter is the accounts are much too similar in nature for all of them to have been created by separate individuals. I would be happy to publish the usernames and email addresses of each account and explain why they are evidence of this if you feel I am being unreasonable.

BlahYourHamster
03-03-2010, 08:18 PM
What you've basically said there 'Gamers_Network'... Was that you pretty much asked people to go and vote for Steve's level... I'll let you decide on the lameity of that.

And also, my respect for Steve, and Monkeysboys has gone through the floor. Who would've known...

CCubbage
03-03-2010, 08:18 PM
Wow..... so, you directly had people come up, play "their" level, then (after that one level) created accounts in order to vote for your sons level?

That sounds pretty horrible and skews the results in your sons favor. THEN you come on here shouting (typing) expletives?

Poor role model....

Now, I could see having side-by-side PS3's showing ALL the levels and letting people vote subjectively. No, I don't think the votes should count. Hmmm.... maybe congress should be elected this way...

Luos_83
03-03-2010, 08:21 PM
I am Sheila Owner of LAN Center Gamers Network in Milwaukee, WI and Mother of MonkeysBoys who where the co creators of Dead Space New Arrivals and we displayed their level to be played at our Gaming Center this weekend while we had a tournament and invited people to play it and vote for it...hence the reasons for the multiple votes for them and it is just complete bull **** that they would be disqualified because we invited people to create an account after playing their level if they believed they deserved a vote in their opinion. We also invited family and friends to do the same....now is that not the point of a contest??? When we have tournaments their is always people who have perks over some but we do not disqualify them for it, it is just a part of competition. I think you should reconsider your poor decision and let the leve compete as it was...it is a great level made by talented individuals who put countless hours into it and it deserves it's change to compete! Our LAN center is games network and all our cliental and employees voted and our votes should count! Check us out and our legitimacy so you see this was not a load of crap. Look up www.gamersnetworkllc.com (http://www.gamersnetworkllc.com) I am going to put on our website and facebook, fanpage, and twitter and everywhere else I can think of to say what a poor decision was made by LBP on this contest!!! Sheila Navarro

So much bull in one post and you know it.
I just got even more angry.
If you have prove, and you should as your server should log everything..
show it.
I am sure you cannot show this, and should just aknowledge that monkey is just a lame cheater.
Not to forget that you are just as worse for backing him up,
Are you his mother?
You must be better off sending your kid to boarding school and learn him some manners as you have epically failed.

thank you for raising your kid as a cheater, and instead of punishing him.. backing him up.


And you should have been mature enough to play all the levels in the contest and be honest about voting.

BlahYourHamster
03-03-2010, 08:25 PM
Don't assume it's Monkeysboys, it could just as easily be Steve_Big_Guns.

Unless that's actually already been said, if so, sorry :)

BlahYourHamster
03-03-2010, 08:30 PM
Just read that it was Monkeysboys... Sorry steve ^^

Vandz
03-03-2010, 08:30 PM
Lol you know it just makes my day coming on central and reading the latest news with the contest, cracks me up what people do and the explantion for this. May i be the one to speak for everyone esle that wishes to act nice and say BS! to your friends and family coming round for a jolly cup of tea and play then making an account to vote for a level so you can win a pixel crown on a game designed for kids!. Shame on you!. Well i voted for my self last time but this time i'll for for quinn :) coz i felt like a **** voting for myself lol.

Kern
03-03-2010, 08:31 PM
I am Sheila Owner of LAN Center Gamers Network in Milwaukee, WI and Mother of MonkeysBoys who where the co creators of Dead Space New Arrivals and we displayed their level to be played at our Gaming Center this weekend while we had a tournament and invited people to play it and vote for it...hence the reasons for the multiple votes for them and it is just complete bull **** that they would be disqualified because we invited people to create an account after playing their level if they believed they deserved a vote in their opinion. We also invited family and friends to do the same....now is that not the point of a contest??? When we have tournaments their is always people who have perks over some but we do not disqualify them for it, it is just a part of competition. I think you should reconsider your poor decision and let the leve compete as it was...it is a great level made by talented individuals who put countless hours into it and it deserves it's change to compete! Our LAN center is games network and all our cliental and employees voted and our votes should count! Check us out and our legitimacy so you see this was not a load of crap. Look up www.gamersnetworkllc.com I am going to put on our website and facebook, fanpage, and twitter and everywhere else I can think of to say what a poor decision was made by LBP on this contest!!! Sheila Navarro

Your grammar is impeccable Mrs. Navarro. But still, without playing any of the other levels you shouldn't have told your "Colleagues" to vote for MonkeysBoys level, which would have skewed the results anyhow, Simply because your "friends" voted for it doesn't mean that it was a fair vote, I respect LBPC and its staff and i believe they made the right decision. Its what we call in the Gaming Industry, Cheating, Now i hope you have a nice day :)

comphermc
03-03-2010, 08:33 PM
All accounts created were linked to monkeyboys, and not to Steve_Big_Guns. Thus far, Steve is not shown to be at fault here.

Let this be a warning to everyone else. Let voting occur fairly, or we will have no choice but to discontinue the contest. It has gone less-than-swimmingly thus far, and we are trying to do the best that we can.

@Luos - if you read the OP it says quite clearly that we have added our #6 selection in the former selection's stead.

BlahYourHamster
03-03-2010, 08:37 PM
Dude, Vandz... What the hell is up with your arm? :D

Luos_83
03-03-2010, 08:39 PM
that isnt his arm...
He just want us to think it is!

BlahYourHamster
03-03-2010, 08:40 PM
He should stop lifting weights, and start lifting pies... Towards his face... Mmm

ConfusedCartman
03-03-2010, 08:43 PM
This is intended specifically for Mrs. Navarro.

There were 7 total accounts created under monkeysboys IP address:
cdanya - cdanya89@[REDACTED].com - We assumed this one was probably legitimate. Your son was not disqualified on the grounds of this account's existence.

nac - infoATnational-appraisalDOTcom - The username seems to stand for National Appraisal Corporation and the email address backs this up. We do not believe this account represents an individual.

nackeith - keithATnational-appraisalDOTcom - We assumed this was a family company of some sort, and this was simply a family member. This account did not specifically infringe upon any rules.

rockbandtwin1 - rockbandtwin1@[REDACTED].com - We assumed this was either one of two twins voting to help out or a set of duplicate accounts. We now know that these are probably just actual twins.

rockbandtwin2 - rockbandtwin2@[REDACTED].com - We assumed this was either one of two twins voting to help out or a set of duplicate accounts. We now know that these are probably just actual twins.

sheilan - sheila.navarro@[REDACTED].com - Possibly a mother or other family member. Did not individually infringe upon any rules.

sheila_n - sheilaATnational-appraisalDOTcom - This is where we realized what was going on. I'm hoping you, Mrs. Navarro, will not deny that this account and the one above it are representing the same person. This is considered cheating, and if you were truly the only one making multiple accounts in an attempt to assist your son, then I guess you are to blame for your son's disqualification.
Regardless of your justifications, you cannot make multiple accounts representing the same individual and attempt to sway the results of a contest in your son's favor. You say your son worked weeks on that level? Well, what about the 42 other people who worked equally as long on their levels? Do they deserve to lose because you decided your son deserves to win, regardless of the stakes? Look, Mrs. Navarro, I appreciate your obvious love and care for your son, but do not expect me to allow cheating in a publicly operated contest. We are impartial and we do not tolerate cheating in any form.

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To everyone: I do not believe at this time that monkeysboys was even aware that what was going on was cheating. His family was only helping him, and I believe it was only his mother that made two accounts for one person (in this case, herself). It is a technicality, and it is sad to see the level be disqualified on such grounds. However, I'm sure everyone can appreciate that there can be no grey area when it comes to cheating, so being very strict about this is the only way we can go about fairly dealing with what happened. Thanks again to everyone for working so hard on your levels - regardless of this incidindent, I'm still consistently amazed at what the LBP community can accomplish.

gamers_network
03-03-2010, 08:46 PM
What you've basically said there 'Gamers_Network'... Was that you pretty much asked people to go and vote for Steve's level... I'll let you decide on the lameity of that.

And also, my respect for Steve, and Monkeysboys has gone through the floor. Who would've known...



Steve and Monkeysboys had no part in this so just lay off them. Be mad at the right person who is me so write what you want but leave the kids alone they feel bad enough as it is!

Kern
03-03-2010, 08:50 PM
Steve and Monkeysboys had no part in this so just lay off them. Be mad at the right person who is me so write what you want but leave the kids alone they feel bad enough as it is!

I don't think you had any right to do what you just did, I am trying to see this from your point of view, but i just can't... Your Son had a really good chance of winning, until you intervened. I am sorry Monkeysboys and Stevebigguns that because of your mothers immorality and lack of common sense you were disqualified. I really feel for you.

As for Gamers_Network, Don't you think you've caused enough trouble?

gamers_network
03-03-2010, 08:52 PM
This is intended specifically for Mrs. Navarro.

There were 7 total accounts created under monkeysboys IP address:
cdanya - cdanya89@[REDACTED].com - We assumed this one was probably legitimate. Your son was not disqualified on the grounds of this account's existence.

nac - infoATnational-appraisalDOTcom - The username seems to stand for National Appraisal Corporation and the email address backs this up. We do not believe this account represents an individual.

nackeith - keithATnational-appraisalDOTcom - We assumed this was a family company of some sort, and this was simply a family member. This account did not specifically infringe upon any rules.

rockbandtwin1 - rockbandtwin1@[REDACTED].com - We assumed this was either one of two twins voting to help out or a set of duplicate accounts. We now know that these are probably just actual twins.

rockbandtwin2 - rockbandtwin2@[REDACTED].com - We assumed this was either one of two twins voting to help out or a set of duplicate accounts. We now know that these are probably just actual twins.

sheilan - sheila.navarro@[REDACTED].com - Possibly a mother or other family member. Did not individually infringe upon any rules.

sheila_n - sheilaATnational-appraisalDOTcom - This is where we realized what was going on. I'm hoping you, Mrs. Navarro, will not deny that this account and the one above it are representing the same person. This is considered cheating, and if you were truly the only one making multiple accounts in an attempt to assist your son, then I guess you are to blame for your son's disqualification.
Regardless of your justifications, you cannot make multiple accounts representing the same individual and attempt to sway the results of a contest in your son's favor. You say your son worked weeks on that level? Well, what about the 42 other people who worked equally as long on their levels? Do they deserve to lose because you decided your son deserves to win, regardless of the stakes? Look, Mrs. Navarro, I appreciate your obvious love and care for your son, but do not expect me to allow cheating in a publicly operated contest. We are impartial and we do not tolerate cheating in any form.

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To everyone: I do not believe at this time that monkeysboys was even aware that what was going on was cheating. His family was only helping him, and I believe it was only his mother that made two accounts for one person (in this case, herself). It is a technicality, and it is sad to see the level be disqualified on such grounds. However, I'm sure everyone can appreciate that there can be no grey area when it comes to cheating, so being very strict about this is the only way we can go about fairly dealing with what happened. Thanks again to everyone for working so hard on your levels - regardless of this incidindent, I'm still consistently amazed at what the LBP community can accomplish.
I still believe you should remove the ones in question and let all the other hold up to what they voted for out of 42 votes 4 basically is what you disqualified them for in something none of the creators had a part in is just wrong to disqualify them...just remove the votes you believe are unfair and continue with the contest because the creators did nothing wrong or had knowledge of what votes they got please. Yes it was a mistake in judgement but not by steve or the monkeysboys.

Kern
03-03-2010, 08:55 PM
I still believe you should remove the ones in question and let all the other hold up to what they voted for out of 42 votes 4 basically is what you disqualified them for in something none of the creators had a part in is just wrong to disqualify them...just remove the votes you believe are unfair and continue with the contest because the creators did nothing wrong or had knowledge of what votes they got please. Yes it was a mistake in judgement but not by steve or the monkeysboys.

I don't think it'd be fair to let someone back once they've been disqualified, and anyway


Thanks to those who vote for Monkeysboys on the Little Big Planet Create Online Contest, however, LBP has disqualified them for "Multiple Voting" which is a load of complete BS! They made a bad decision and I think others should post to them why they made a bad decision by pulling the entry! Thanks again for your vote! GN

ConfusedCartman
03-03-2010, 08:56 PM
I still believe you should remove the ones in question and let all the other hold up to what they voted for out of 42 votes 4 basically is what you disqualified them for in something none of the creators had a part in is just wrong to disqualify them...just remove the votes you believe are unfair and continue with the contest because the creators did nothing wrong or had knowledge of what votes they got please. Yes it was a mistake in judgement but not by steve or the monkeysboys.
As I mentioned before, I cannot allow a grey area when it comes to cheating. Contests such as these are nothing if they aren't rigidly structured, and with prizes worth over $100 on the line, I simply cannot allow it.

iGotFancyPants
03-03-2010, 09:01 PM
I believe everything is right as it stands now. Although it isn't right to punish someone for something they didn't do (monkeysboys and steve), you shouldn't have intervened AT ALL (talking to the mother, of course). I mean, it could be ok to have played ALL of the levels as stated before, but stubborn as you are, you played that one and decided to make a mess of the results.

Having more friends and family capable of making multiple accounts isn't what the contest is about, so think twice about that.

Also, it was CLEARLY mentioned in the Online Create Voting Thread that multiple accounts made for voting was against the rules. I don't think it would be fair to blame LBPC's staff for something that you were clearly at fault for.

Hmm, what else should I say...

Guess that's all. Goodbye, I suppose. Off to iron me pants!

BlahYourHamster
03-03-2010, 09:03 PM
I highly doubt that there is even a "Mother" involved at all. I'm sure any mother would have the common decency to know that cheating is immoral, and that they would inevitably be caught and disqualified.

It's probably just Monkeysboys simply trying to cover it all up.

Incinerator22
03-03-2010, 09:12 PM
If there's such a grey area with rules why do we allow Gone Missing? Rules are rules, no matter how and to what extent. :rolleyes:

So I take it Dead Space is disqualified?

Kern
03-03-2010, 09:18 PM
can we please get this thread back on track, Its been Derailed enough if you want to discuss the poll cheating take it here (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?23438-Poll-Cheating&p=405954)

xkappax
03-03-2010, 09:25 PM
Yes, everyone just stop fighting for cryin' out loud. It's a kid's game, gosh darn it! I voted, with one account, for the one that I felt was best. And kernel's right. Keep this thread to discussing the actual contest.

rtm223
03-03-2010, 09:27 PM
Well I'm voting for wooden perception again, 'cause it's teh bomb!!!!

Incinerator22
03-03-2010, 09:29 PM
Yes, everyone just stop fighting for cryin' out loud. It's a kid's game, gosh darn it! I voted, with one account, for the one that I felt was best. And kernel's right. Keep this thread to discussing the actual contest.

I'm going to quote you here. LBP is serious business :p

Mr. Lunasicc
03-03-2010, 09:33 PM
my vote is gonna strongly stay on No Peg`s

comishguy67
03-03-2010, 09:41 PM
Well..it sucks that MB and SBG's level got disqualified considering that was the level I initially voted for...so I guess I'm gonna have to go with Howdy Partners.

gamegirl
03-03-2010, 10:56 PM
Well, one good thing to come of this for most of those of us who did not cheat, we can now vote for our favorite again. I am voting for Wooden Perception again for its more advanced nature as spelled out in my last post, not going to repeat it again. Whew!!

orang3dragon612
03-03-2010, 11:52 PM
Too let you all now, i did more research and found that while it was acceptable for monkey boys family to create a account and vote, monkey boys mother ( the only one) created 2. So to clear that up, Steve had nothing to do with it and he seemed pretty cool with the fact that he was disqualified. Monkey boy in no way encouraged his family and by the way his mother acted, Im going to guess that she created 2 accounts and voting twice without monkey boy knowing. So i hope that, no scratch that, you all better treat Steve and monkey normally. they did nothing wrong.

shebhnt
03-03-2010, 11:57 PM
Now I can't vote till this weekend because I can't vote without feeling guilty if I haven't played the last level. It will be hard though because I really enjoyed wooden perception. Like I said before, it blew my mind.

Incinerator22
03-04-2010, 12:23 AM
Am I missing something? Were the votes reset?

xkappax
03-04-2010, 12:28 AM
Am I missing something? Were the votes reset?

no, you just can't see the results so people's votes won't be swayed.

Luos_83
03-04-2010, 12:30 AM
Edit:
Ok, ..*deep breath*
Stfu luos!

or ill mod you!
-Luos.

julesyjules
03-04-2010, 12:32 AM
This contest has now officially become a thing of legend - more twists and turns than Tye Dye.

Well done mods, you blew the lid off SheilaGate. I've re-voted for Wooden Perception.

Gilgamesh
03-04-2010, 01:35 AM
This contest has now officially become a thing of legend - more twists and turns than Tye Dye.

M. Night Shyamalan would be proud. :p

Now let's get this voting thing done before some other catastrophe happens... or let's have all the catastrophes happen at the same time so that we're only left with one entry and get a winner by default. :rolleyes:

I hope everyone remembers to re-vote...

Vandz
03-04-2010, 03:04 AM
that isnt his arm...
He just want us to think it is!

Lol, belive it or not some gamers do exercise.

comphermc
03-04-2010, 03:58 AM
Keep the votes coming in, people. I think you'll be surprised by the way it's turning out.

;)

Incinerator22
03-04-2010, 04:00 AM
lol you're scaring me. Can I have a peek at the amounts :p?

But in all seriousness, why is dead space up there if it was disqualified?

comphermc
03-04-2010, 04:03 AM
But in all seriousness, why is dead space up there if it was disqualified?

Um... it's not?

Edit: did you read all of them? We have a new fifth finalist.

Incinerator22
03-04-2010, 04:06 AM
Oh, whoops, I saw 5 and I didn't consider you added a new one.

TheFirstAvenger
03-04-2010, 04:18 AM
I couldn't make a decision between HP and Dead Space, so now that DS is disqualified I'll vote for Howdy Partners. :)

Voodeedoo
03-04-2010, 07:37 AM
would monk still be disqualified if there was some other bloke he didn't know [who gets aroused at the thought of his levels] that made two accounts and voted for his level? sucks it had to be his mom though; maybe he'd still be in the contest if it was some other *** kisser.

Duffluc
03-04-2010, 09:28 AM
Aww, that's too bad for MonkeysBoys and Steve_Big_Guns and their level. A shame that cheating was the follow up to such an amazing level. Their level garnered tons of votes (including mine) and even without those extra votes it would have probably been close to 1st. Oh well, now I gotta make up my mind again!

Tawarf
03-04-2010, 10:41 AM
Woah.... Im not even that desperate...

bakscratch
03-04-2010, 03:51 PM
Yay this ownz i cant beleve my g_d darn luck thanks LBPCentral i lwve you all but not you CC ok CC i do. :p

Tawarf
03-04-2010, 04:24 PM
I can finnally vote for howdy partnerz

KQuinn94Z
03-04-2010, 06:21 PM
Hey If I'm honest I hope vandz wins this.

Kern
03-04-2010, 06:50 PM
I voted again for Killzonequinn07 (When i say again i mean i have voted for him again on this thread)

Luos_83
03-04-2010, 07:14 PM
Voted on islands again,

Still cant believe that a new list came out so quick,
i couldnt believe gone missing was in the list,
but the new entry... Did CC just took a random level that entered the competition?
Or is this just as much of fanboyism as Gone missing?

Kern
03-04-2010, 07:19 PM
i couldnt believe gone missing was in the list,
but the new entry... Did CC just took a random level that entered the competition?
Or is this just as much of fanboyism as Gone missing?

Luos... Please don't go there... :(

Luos_83
03-04-2010, 07:23 PM
Sure, Ill just post my levels and stfu for a while ok.

mrsupercomputer
03-04-2010, 07:27 PM
but the new entry... Did CC just took a random level that entered the competition?

When it became apparent that something fishy was going on in the previous poll, CC asked the judges to send him our "#6" level so that there would be a replacement if Dead Space was disqualified.

Kern
03-04-2010, 07:28 PM
Sure, Ill just post my levels and stfu for a while ok.

I didn't ask you to do that... :( i just... Forget it.

shebhnt
03-04-2010, 08:16 PM
When does voting end? Will I have time if I wait till this weekend to vote?

comphermc
03-04-2010, 08:33 PM
Voted on islands again,

Still cant believe that a new list came out so quick,
i couldnt believe gone missing was in the list,
but the new entry... Did CC just took a random level that entered the competition?
Or is this just as much of fanboyism as Gone missing?

Look, Luos... as I explained back when you made the comment the first time. We did not go through and replay all of the levels. As mrsupercomputer states above, we had already judged all of the levels, and the lack of Dead Space: New Arrivals did not shake up the way that we judged them. If a level was in the top five, why would it not be in the top six? That would make zero sense.

This is not a new list, it merely had the sixth level added in Dead Space: New Arrivals' stead.

Jrange378
03-04-2010, 08:46 PM
Reading through some of these posts im starting to become disappointed with some of the negativity and aggressivness lately . There was none of this when i signed up to this wonderful site. If you want to be negative i have a perfect site for you, Gamefaqs. Especially dont be bashing levels asking why they are on the lists, every level up there is quality, its not favoritism. Keep it to yourself if you dont like one.

Incinerator22
03-04-2010, 09:19 PM
I find complaining about negativity annoying too ;). What a hypocritical sentence, but still.



Anyway, It disappoints me a little that many of these entries' creators don't have the decency to show up.

julesyjules
03-04-2010, 09:41 PM
I find the complaining about the complaining of negativity annoying. Your turn!

Incinerator22
03-04-2010, 09:45 PM
That's why I added the hypocritical thing, garghghgh....

I think I'm going for wooden perception :D

gamegirl
03-04-2010, 09:47 PM
Where is C Cartman when we need him to keep us all on topic??

Jrange378
03-04-2010, 10:49 PM
Im gonna go with Howdy Partners most likely.

clarkdef
03-04-2010, 11:01 PM
It would really be bad if no pegs lost as it was winning. I can see alot of people changed their votes to "WP" which is a fine level but Shris and Lunieizsicc were really excited that they might actually get one second of fame.

Mr. Lunasicc
03-05-2010, 01:06 AM
It would really be bad if no pegs lost as it was winning. I can see alot of people changed their votes to "WP" which is a fine level but Shris and Lunieizsicc were really excited that they might actually get one second of fame.

yes i 100% agree with u.... i played these 5 levels several times and still liked..... no i loved no pegs, and they were actually in 1st place with no help just honest votes

comphermc
03-05-2010, 01:08 AM
Let's just say that voting is playing out how we might expect... ;)

SLS10
03-05-2010, 01:50 AM
Voted for Shris's level once again. Undeniable quality and charm.

mistervista
03-05-2010, 02:35 AM
I voted for Howdy partners as I just found it the most FUN.

I voted for it originally so I see no reason to change my vote now, it's only fair I stick to the same one.

X-NOBODY-X
03-05-2010, 03:06 AM
Voted on islands again,

Still cant believe that a new list came out so quick,
i couldnt believe gone missing was in the list,
but the new entry... Did CC just took a random level that entered the competition?
Or is this just as much of fanboyism as Gone missing?



Wow~ What a surprise . I was told that the vote has started. So I thought I'd check it out. I didn't expect to see so many complain.

This is how I see this contest: A great opportunity for those talented creators get together and create better lvls for the community. No matter who wins, players get to see more creative ideas and have more fun. So in the end, the real winner is the community.

Me and Spawner met on LBP awhile ago. I respect him as a great creator. Soon after the online create mode was available, We decided to make a lvl together, then we found out about this contest on LBPC, we thought why not join it. That’s what happened.

I felt sorry we didn’t have enough time to make the kinda lvl we had in mind and the end result wasn’t very good. So, we didn’t expect anything… It was just one of 2 million lvls made in LBP. Not a big deal. We didn’t meant to upset anyone. For those who think we don’t deserve to be on the list, please ignore us and vote for the one you like the best. I’d be happy if any of those great lvls wins. And of cause, I’m really appreciated for those who voted for us.

PS: Luos_Desruc - as one of early friends I met in LBP, you really made me ”proud”.

BlahYourHamster
03-05-2010, 12:50 PM
I agree, Gone Missing shouldn't really be there.

It was just like...

"Go back a billion years and plant a seed"
"Now go forward a 100 years and jump on a plant"
"Now do what you just did another 400 times"

That, coupled with appaling visuals wasn't really a first choice for me.

But that's just my opinion.

Unreal_Styrofoam
03-05-2010, 04:59 PM
I agree, Gone Missing shouldn't really be there.

It was just like...

"Go back a billion years and plant a seed"
"Now go forward a 100 years and jump on a plant"
"Now do what you just did another 400 times"

That, coupled with appaling visuals wasn't really a first choice for me.

But that's just my opinion.

i liked the level, it had a very different and unique story line that i havent really seen before, and X-NOBODY-X's visuals are STUNNING

Kern
03-05-2010, 06:45 PM
i liked the level, it had a very different and unique story line that i havent really seen before, and X-NOBODY-X's visuals are STUNNING

Original? It was done in Ratchet and Clank, A Crack in time (Vine planting, going back and forward in time) (http://uk.guides.ign.com/guides/887461/page_20.html), and was done in amazingflyingpoo (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/member.php?3639-amazingflyingpoo)'s level; Now and Then (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?19974-Now-and-Then-by-amazingflyingpoo)
So i wouldn't call it original, And seen as you are now answering questions Nobody, How come you NEVER find your girlfriend?

KQuinn94Z
03-05-2010, 06:50 PM
TBH- I'd rather not win. Would be cool but I'm positive other people want and deserve the prize more.

thi766
03-05-2010, 07:03 PM
I voted for wooden perception because i thought it was the most fun to play also the obstacles were very original. I didnt finish all the levels though because i tried bakstratch/mistervistas level at least 3 times but i always kept dying in the fire so i didnt want to restart the entire thing. Maybe add infinite lifes instead of just 4?

Nirokieb
03-05-2010, 09:18 PM
Good luck you all!

CCubbage
03-05-2010, 09:36 PM
I enjoyed Gone Missing.... and I also enjoyed that there was such diversity in the levels listed. I think Gone Missing deserves to be on the list JUST for the spinning circles effect! :D

Come on, people - it's all subjective. Just have fun with it. Treat the rest of this contest with kid gloves so we don't end up with another catastophe. No more mean-spirited remarks, knocking on levels on the list, and mothers trying to make sure their child wins.... just good clean fun! :p

rtm223
03-06-2010, 12:18 AM
I enjoyed Gone Missing.... and I also enjoyed that there was such diversity in the levels listed

I was thinking about this the other day when it all blew up again. The initial 5 were all completely different and then one of them gets replaced with #6, which itself was a completely different style to any of the others. Obviously this makes it so much harder to judge but still, it's always great to see the diversity like that.

X-FROGBOY-X
03-06-2010, 01:41 AM
Wow, this is a crazy turn of events. I haven't had something this totally-different-from-what-I-normally-see-or-do since December 13, 2008 (the day i first played littlebigplanet :p).

By the way Wooden Perception gets my vote.

TheCountessZ
03-06-2010, 02:49 AM
I liked all of the levels. Actually, we all won. We got a bunch of levels to play that may not have been created had it not been for the contest. The finalists were all awesome. :)

cmh95
03-06-2010, 09:42 PM
CC make top10 list after the poll plz

Kern
03-06-2010, 09:44 PM
CC make top10 list after the poll plz

is that so you can brag?

Gilgamesh
03-06-2010, 09:53 PM
CC make top10 list after the poll plz

I would rather see a top 22. :p

GruntosUK
03-06-2010, 10:44 PM
I just hope all the drama that this contest has brought won't deter the people who have worked hard on giving us it from doing another.

I really don't know whats happened to this "community" lately.

Jrange378
03-06-2010, 10:53 PM
I just hope all the drama that this contest has brought won't deter the people who have worked hard on giving us it from doing another.

I really don't know whats happened to this "community" lately.

I really hope not. I thought this was one of the best contests and i would love to participate if there was another one. It seems its always just a few people spoiling it for the rest.

gamegirl
03-07-2010, 04:25 AM
So when exactly does the voting end??? One week from the original start date which was about 10:00 central time last Friday. Or is there a new date due to one of the levels not getting enough votes? Just very curious. Never saw an update even with all the drama.

Kern
03-07-2010, 10:59 AM
I really don't know whats happened to this "community" lately.

They've gone prize mad. CC10 1047 simply because it had a prize. LBPC OC competition; 22 entries only about 7 from the residents here. Controversy over the LBL Crown Competition.

CAn't we just go back to our roots?

bakscratch
03-07-2010, 12:10 PM
Still wondering who to vote for, I like how we dont know who is in the lead makes me scared.

Matt 82
03-07-2010, 04:43 PM
I voted for the boys in my clique ;)

jwwphotos
03-07-2010, 05:04 PM
I just hope all the drama that this contest has brought won't deter the people who have worked hard on giving us it from doing another.

I really don't know whats happened to this "community" lately.

Yeah.. I agree, not quite the fun and happy place it used to be.

I feel bad for those that worked hard and entered this contest to have their efforts tossed about in such a manner. They tried their best and we should be thankful and applaud their efforts. Vote for your winner and wish everyone good luck. I never can understand why it's so hard to try to be nice to one another.

I see why we don't have that many site contests.. and will be amazed if we see another. Seems kinda sad considering this is supposed to be the friendly and helpful LBP site.

CaskStrength
03-07-2010, 06:08 PM
Stop silencing the messenger

Before any voting started I explained how competitions like this cause hate. Everytime, someone who didn't even make a level for the contest reacted by saying "don't derail the thread". Then confuced cartman or computermc or whatever he's called deletes my post and silences me. Well now look at what happened. I have to admit I enjoyed watching how this waspsnest boiled over because it proves the point how much hate contests like this generate.
I also predicted Steve's level was going to win by false votes but that message got deleted o course because as long as you say something that cc or computermc like then it's not derailing the thread. When u have critique however then u get the stinky eye. To see that's a fact just scroll back through the messages and you will see many that have hardly anything to do with the competition but nobody telling the poster he's derailing the competition. Messages like this one however are allmost allways followed up by attempts to silince the poster. You could fill a page with a post that's just about how wonderfull cc is, that he worked so hard for this competition and this site just for us and that he is allways right etc. and you will not get silenced but if you publicly doubt the competition, if submissions should be spotlighted before the voting, if it's right that cartman or his crew decide who are lbp's best creaters then you will see infrictions pooring in.
Look at jwwphotos comments for instance. They're often just bashing comments meant for the people who don't agree with something about the competition. You would almost think he's an undercover moderater or a snitch cause why else did he write so many comments in the co create threads? He's not a contestant allthough he behaves like one so what is his role here? To me it really derailes the conversation when people who have nothing to do with the contest walk on the stage that often :)
Now don't start about it's just a game etc cause I believe it was monkey... who said that earlier and that if it was up to him the contest should be cancelled because he didn't really care about the crown lol. The point is competitions like this and creaters who republish ruin the game.
O btw cartman: in your message you explained to me that when someones levels don't get spotlighted it's because the levels are bad and not because you prevented the level from being spotlighted. Let me tell you: I NEVER made a thread about any of my levels so I never tried to get any of my levels spotlighted, so you obviously misunderstood what I was saying, so telling me that is uncalled for. You seem to assume a lot of things like saying I must be under the age of 13 because my birthdate was obviously fake... That's why I don't respond to your messages privately because I expect no reasonable feedback from you.
@ mistervista and backscratsh I'd like to say: I never really understood what you 2 were complaining about before but it's aqwardly silent now you got into the top 5. I hope it's not just because you want the crown because that wouldn't make you look pretty at all. I hope you'll clear that up soon. I voted for your level because it's allmost exactly like the story level but I have to admit, the other levels are very close to that aswell.
I'd also like to say, before computermc deletes this message again, that I wouldn't mind if the top 22 will be posted but I hope the reasons why the levels ended up in that place will be given. It was kind of a pointless exercise for the 16 others if they won't get any comments on their levels at all.
Ps I never thought the top 5 got voted in in some kind of clique'esque way (exept for killzonequin and computermc's thing maybe). I believe that was mistervista's point and since comments tend to be treated as one here I thought I'd point this out. I am aware however that lbpc operates as a clique in many other ways. What I said about silencing proves it or like I mentioned in a previous (deleted) post: getting crowned for community efforts proves it aswell.
This isn't just a rant. I've been saying these things before the voting started and I'm still saying them now just so you know.

supersickie
03-07-2010, 07:48 PM
Are you just trying to stir things up? Haven't you already had this discussion a few times before? Last warning...

It's really not a matter of "silencing" you for the sake of LBPC. You've already proven to be the sort of person that subscribes to conspiracies and your wall of text doesn't draw any readers outside of the moderating team as it's our responsibility to do just that: read everything.

My advice to you is start PM'ing people when you have an issue. It doesn't do you any favors to openly blast the Sackcast team, moderators, or the admin himself. Quite the contrary, it draws the staff out of our cozy little nests and forces our hands.

ConfusedCartman
03-07-2010, 08:13 PM
Are you just trying to stir things up? Haven't you already had this discussion a few times before? Last warning...
I'm not feeling quite so forgiving. I gave him two infractions: off-topic and arguing with staff. If this seems harsh, then feel free to send your dissent toward me in the form of a PM, but we asked him multiple times to keep his opinion out of the voting thread and he has repeatedly chosen to ignore those requests. Once again, let me reiterate: this thread is for direct discussion of the five finalists and, optionally, sharing who you voted for. If you disagree with our methods, PM us and we'll happily explain our decision without any backlash because, as we have said many times before, all we want to do is keep this thread clean and focused.

Soupersadist
03-07-2010, 08:22 PM
sounds fair. i voted for wooden perception btw, its between that and pegs i reckon. sorry x-nobody-x, you are one of my favourite creators but i'm being as fair as possible.
btw would it be counted as ruining the compo if i made 5 differents accounts and voted once for each level? not that i would do that, just curious :)lol

smellyshelly
03-07-2010, 10:01 PM
I'm still going with No Peg's Island.

Wooden Perception was pretty cool, but both times I tried to complete the level it glitched. Plus it's not really my sort of thing, I prefer something a bit less plain with characters and story.

Vandz
03-08-2010, 12:47 AM
I'm still going with No Peg's Island.

Wooden Perception was pretty cool, but both times I tried to complete the level it glitched. Plus it's not really my sort of thing, I prefer something a bit less plain with characters and story.

It glitched?, you mean you got stuck ^^, lol. Let me know please what happened, would be nice. I use to read comments on this thread for a laugh but now it's just stupid, i feel sorry for the people that run this forum.

clarkdef
03-08-2010, 04:55 AM
It glitched?, you mean you got stuck ^^, lol. Let me know please what happened, would be nice. I use to read comments on this thread for a laugh but now it's just stupid, i feel sorry for the people that run this forum.

The level has a intermitent glitch, right after you get your photo taken you are supposed to be sprung up, it doesn't always work. Otherwise the level works perfectly, and is bursting at the seems with ideas. BTW how many pushups can you do?

comphermc
03-08-2010, 04:58 AM
BTW how many pushups can you do?

Haha. Finally, someone asked what everyone else was thinking! :D

Incinerator22
03-08-2010, 05:32 AM
I'm not feeling quite so forgiving. I gave him two infractions: off-topic and arguing with staff. If this seems harsh, then feel free to send your dissent toward me in the form of a PM, but we asked him multiple times to keep his opinion out of the voting thread and he has repeatedly chosen to ignore those requests. Once again, let me reiterate: this thread is for direct discussion of the five finalists and, optionally, sharing who you voted for. If you disagree with our methods, PM us and we'll happily explain our decision without any backlash because, as we have said many times before, all we want to do is keep this thread clean and focused.

You haven't replied to a single PM I've sent you.

shebhnt
03-08-2010, 09:52 AM
Well I can finally voted as I have just played the newest level added to the list. Even though it was an excellent level my vote still went to Wooden Perception. I just can't get over the use of the different layers, once again I say, it blew my mind.

Tawarf
03-08-2010, 01:47 PM
Cask... Please don't take it too far now... your my friend... but were going a lil over the top now don't you think? Anyways... i wonder who's winning!

Unknown_creator
03-08-2010, 01:47 PM
Haha. Finally, someone asked what everyone else was thinking! :D



omg this guy is too funny XD

Luos_83
03-08-2010, 01:59 PM
Stop silencing the messenger

the whole shabam


I agree with the man.

Kern
03-08-2010, 05:22 PM
STOP THE DERAILMENT!
hehe billy mays

Incinerator22
03-08-2010, 08:47 PM
It's not derailment if it's about the thread/contest at hand.

This:
BTW how many pushups can you do? This is derailment.

Caskstrenths post is just negativity. But why shouldn't his opinion matter?

CCubbage
03-08-2010, 08:55 PM
** sigh **.....

Fortunately we have good mature moderators to choose what is appropriate and what isn't.....
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Great contest! Still hope "No Pegs Island" wins.... although all of them were lots of fun.

Incinerator22
03-08-2010, 09:02 PM
Some people are just saying the contest could be better. The second time around, the results were hidden. There's an improvement right there that might not have been thought over with the negativity that you imply to be innapropriate.

bakscratch
03-08-2010, 09:22 PM
Ok they get the idea now so would you all just stop.
This is like giving sweets to a kid then there mates seeing. (How is it like that I dont know, and I dont have mini bakscratches only 15 sorry :P )

Incinerator22
03-08-2010, 09:29 PM
You don't "get the idea" bakscratch, because in the first thread you were swearing and complaining about things that had nothing to do with the contest.

Most of the people here don't really "get the idea" because they think contest feedback that isn't positive is innapropriate :(

bakscratch
03-08-2010, 09:32 PM
Well i got over it after mrv said something,
Complain on another post what do you think people are gonna make of us ?

I might stop playing lbp if anyone wants to know PC is the future.

Steam anyone? Same as PSN if wanna know.

Incinerator22
03-08-2010, 09:38 PM
You got over it? Then why do you talk about the pc being your future? That has nothing to do with this thread. So you don't "get the idea" and you haven't "gotten over it", at least if "it" and the "idea" is the concept of staying on topic.

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I'd love to make a debate thread about contests themselves + the ideal way a contest should be set up. I'm not sure if that'd go well though.

bakscratch
03-08-2010, 09:40 PM
whaaa, i board any way just coming of my head.
Lol just me and you talking, lets talk about parliment now.

warlord_evil
03-08-2010, 09:48 PM
Should this thread be left open for discussion?

Could someone please explain to me why it should be open? All people can post about is what level they like or something off topic.

Incinerator22
03-08-2010, 09:49 PM
Mods, Am I allowed to make a general contest thread?

Vandz
03-08-2010, 11:40 PM
The level has a intermitent glitch, right after you get your photo taken you are supposed to be sprung up, it doesn't always work. Otherwise the level works perfectly, and is bursting at the seems with ideas. BTW how many pushups can you do?

Alright Clark, thanks mate. i'll have a look at that part of the level when i get on there next, I'll be on final fntasy 13 tomorrow though :). Push ups. well i just done a 1min test and done 72 commando push ups within 1min but i've just eatten a curry lol. I have to be tested every week how many i can do within 2mins coz i'm joinin the Rmc, how many pull ups and how many sit ups within 2mins and my cardio over the course of about 4miles every week so it varies. we have to meet up at our local afco for training every tuesday with one of the marine's. Always ****ed afterwards lol.

Luos_83
03-08-2010, 11:59 PM
I might stop playing lbp if anyone wants to know PC is the future.

ROFLSAUCE with mexican peppers and some nice crackers on the side.
You are so wrong my man.
Computers are the past.

Fenderjt
03-09-2010, 05:09 PM
Does anyone know when this will end?

Soupersadist
03-09-2010, 06:12 PM
is that;"WHEN WILL THIS ALL JUST END!?" or "I am interested in finding out the closing date of this competition."? either way i dont know ;P lol

Fenderjt
03-09-2010, 06:43 PM
LOL!! Let me rephrase that..

When will someone reveal the winner? XD

Rogar
03-10-2010, 02:15 PM
Because of the false start I assume the 7 days was reset too. This new thread was started 6 days ago, so I'd guess the poll will close some time tomorrow.

By the way, Vandz, I was going to give some feedback but I couldn't find a showcase for Wooden Perception. Do you intend to make one?

flamingemu
03-10-2010, 07:14 PM
I liked them all TBH. also I feel sorry for steve, im still slightly dubious about monkeyboys but stilll shouldn't steve get SOMETHING? He obviously worked really hard. I've voted for wooden perception because I just like levels like that, and if I had a second vote I would vote for HP. Who-ever wins really deserved it and if I could I'd give them all a prize crown!

Kern
03-10-2010, 07:16 PM
I liked them all TBH. also I feel sorry for steve, im still slightly dubious about monkeyboys but stilll shouldn't steve get SOMETHING? He obviously worked really hard.

Lifes unfair i'm afraid

Chicoleunis
03-10-2010, 07:55 PM
in the old poll i voted for HP but on this i voted for TTT but all levels are great! good job

KQuinn94Z
03-10-2010, 10:03 PM
Yeah, the're really not smart, unlike a wheelbarrow.

Tomorrow the results shall be? I'm exciterpated.

mrlittlelegs
03-10-2010, 10:24 PM
No peg's island!

bonner123
03-11-2010, 12:13 AM
Oh my lord! The suspense is figuratively punching me in the literal stomach. Or I may just be hungry. May the best level win. I voted for No Peg's Island this time because I voted for Wooden Perception last time.

warlord_evil
03-11-2010, 02:37 AM
I hope no one will be to upset from the results.

rtm223
03-11-2010, 02:38 AM
I voted for No Peg's Island this time because I voted for Wooden Perception last time.

Does that even make sense?

Shris
03-11-2010, 05:36 AM
I thought the same thing rtm. But thanks for the vote bonner :)

TripleTremelo
03-11-2010, 07:51 AM
I hope no one will be to upset from the results.

There might be some complaining if No Peg's doesn't win. Considering it would have likely won if the first vote wasn't canceled.

Not from the creator's of the level, just people who like to complain... who seem rather vocal lately.

comphermc
03-11-2010, 03:57 PM
Hm... today looks like the day... ;)

jwwphotos
03-11-2010, 03:58 PM
Cool!!! Can't want to see the results! Good luck to the finalists! :)

Fenderjt
03-11-2010, 04:07 PM
ooo today! Goodluck everyone! May the best win! :)

srgt_poptart
03-11-2010, 04:09 PM
I voted for killzonequin07 and ruof, as i felt it was kinda ironic that their level was a co-op level, as well as created cooperatively.

Richasackboy
03-11-2010, 08:22 PM
Voted for Howdy Partners before the deadline.

bonner123
03-12-2010, 12:20 AM
Wooden Perception and No Peg's Island are pretty close, therefore I chose No Peg's because I voted for Wooden Perception last time :p

ferrrch
03-12-2010, 02:15 AM
I voted for trickys temples trial because i thought it was simply amazing

smellyshelly
03-12-2010, 08:58 AM
When is this comp ending?

I've been checking it every 20 minutes or so today.

comphermc
03-12-2010, 02:40 PM
Alright guys.... voting is officially.... CLOSED!

Give us time to get an official announcement thread up*.

Thanks!
LBPC Staff


*Please allow us time for this, as CC is in charge of these things, and I believe he has school today.