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BassDeluxe
11-02-2008, 04:19 AM
Well, I've finally finished the boss for my first level. Now time to begin the level. :p

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I based it on this:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/BassDeluxe5593/maelare-rpgamercontest.jpg

Suggestions are very welcome, especially in the detail department. I can never seem to have good detail ideas.

Voltiare
11-02-2008, 04:31 AM
Whoa, I like the awesome purple wing. Although, the legs need some work.

SuperYuper
11-02-2008, 04:42 AM
soooo... how do you beat if it sends hundreds of fireballs at you? Nice work; how long did it take you?

BassDeluxe
11-02-2008, 04:49 AM
LOL, I'll definitely be changing the fireballs up later. That was just for temporary purposes. The dragon took me about four days, I think. 3 for modeling, 1 for animating. I can't play very long each day, though.

Crowlerzors
11-02-2008, 11:50 AM
It's fantastic mate :) the only thing that I think you could improve on with it is that the fireballs don't dissapear quick enough, if you made them dissappear faster it would be more like fire breath than spitting out balls of fire that roll along the ground. That's what I think anyway :)

KAPBAM
11-02-2008, 12:00 PM
Wow very cool man. The art style is awesome, and I like the unbeatable 100 fire ball breath xD It's like saying: "Go ahead, TRY and beat my level!" lol

Tomo009
11-02-2008, 12:06 PM
It looks awesome except the claws area bit odd, change the shape of the front one a bit. Excellent work though, especially on the tail and wing. I wanna see this thing in a fight!

EDIT: on further inspection, the back claw is fine :p Just fix the front one ;)

scooby4953
11-02-2008, 01:15 PM
I like it. Although this isn't the only dragon I've seen recently, but some aspects of it's design are excellent. Especially the wings. Like someone else said, you need to make the fire balls disappear quicker, so that you don't end up with piles of fire balls hanging around. Also, how do you actually beat it? as I can't see a brain on it.

ConfusedCartman
11-02-2008, 02:19 PM
Also, how do you actually beat it? as I can't see a brain on it.
44 seconds in there is a comment in the video explaining that the dragon is invincible for the moment, but it will be changed later on.

BassDeluxe
11-02-2008, 05:02 PM
Thanks for all the support guys. I'll see what I can do to fix the feet and other aspects a bit later when I have more suggestions so I can do them all at once.

I'm thinking about removing the wing on the tail. It seems out of place. Anyone agree?

Lastly, I just noticed that I seem to be lacking a back wing. I'll be editing that in.

FlowersInHisHair
11-02-2008, 05:13 PM
I love it. For some reason I really love the segmented purple mane! And I really like the legs :)

panzer3000
11-02-2008, 07:44 PM
the only bad thing is the head, their someate wrong with it, for my liking,

i seen people do four legged but not two legged

OverWork
11-02-2008, 10:20 PM
Really great job but i cant help but notice the sound of things breaking, is that just the fireballs breaking or are things on the dragon breaking?

BassDeluxe
11-02-2008, 11:29 PM
It's the fireballs. That worried me too, so I made sure to check that out.

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11-03-2008, 12:31 AM
im sorry but another dragon?!


can for once someone make a realistic snail?

Shadowcrazy
11-03-2008, 12:48 AM
beautiful wing, was my fav part of this masterpiece

RAINFIRE
11-03-2008, 01:58 AM
i am sorry but this looks very familiar, :cough: donkey show :cough:, but i am glad that it atleast looks a little different but i would change some of the mechanics to have it do something a little differnent from his because that looks almost exactly like the same mechanics used on his first uber dragon and i want yours to be just as uber but more unique

BassDeluxe
11-03-2008, 03:15 AM
Yes, I'm well aware. I can't deny that I did draw somewhat from his when making my mechanics. Don't worry, when it comes to fighting it, the mechanics will be changed, as well as some extra...stuff.

gevurah22
11-03-2008, 06:36 AM
I based it on this:


Wut? More like based on this...

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:rolleyes:

Just messin. I'm really liking the overall design including the wings. I do have one question though... how organic or inorganic do you want your dragon to be in terms of overall motion? Because if you're going for the first, it's movements are somewhat clunky. Also, it doesn't seem as if the fireballs are made out of peach floaty material. That is the most ideal material to use for fireballs like that.

BassDeluxe
11-03-2008, 12:29 PM
Well I guess I was going for organic, but I do realize I kind of failed there. I couldn't get the legs to move smoothly like that. Any tips for that?

gevurah22
11-03-2008, 12:48 PM
Well I guess I was going for organic, but I do realize I kind of failed there. I couldn't get the legs to move smoothly like that. Any tips for that?

Let gravity be your guide. You can do something similar to what I did by making the wobble bolts perform less in rotation and connecting the parts that need to sway more fluidly to un-stiff rods and elastic. Either that or add more joints.

Remember, it's not so much making the object move realistically but more like creating the illusion that it is.

Coltfirearms
11-03-2008, 08:39 PM
Pretty sweet are you gonna share it with everyone?

TheArmedReaper
11-03-2008, 08:55 PM
Why couldn't you land on the wings?
Mummy!!!:cry:

BassDeluxe
11-04-2008, 01:00 AM
I'm actually toying with the idea of having a race down the wings, we'll see. And colt, I can tell you for sure that it will be in a prize bubble or something in the level, but it won't be shareable.

Snrm
11-04-2008, 07:12 PM
Epically awesome :o

the purple wing stands out alot

nice dragon

UmJammerSully
11-04-2008, 08:37 PM
Wow, that actually rivals Donkey Show's dragon quite comfortably. Awesome colour scheme!

BassDeluxe
11-04-2008, 09:08 PM
You think so? I really wasn't pleased with the color scheme, but I guess that's just because the creator is never quite satisfied, eh? I'm just happy to be compared to donkey show's dragon, but to be told it rivals his really makes me happy. I hope my level receives such a positive reception.

Pinkcars
11-05-2008, 07:01 PM
This is great, making monsters is my worst skill.

Coltfirearms
11-06-2008, 10:44 PM
:pI havent really tried to make a monster since the tutorial...:p

Whalio Cappuccino
11-06-2008, 10:52 PM
Same, I'm more of a tough platforming kinda guy, I don't think I'll ever be able to make something like this, for one it just looks like it would break or something would go wrong if i did it, and two I just suck with the shapes they give us, I wouldn't be able to make a dragon face if my life depended on it, but back to the dragon itself.

Great color scheme as someone mentioned, the wings look good but are they suppose to be so plain? I think you should add some black lines to go through them? Sort of like the original picture you based it on.

BassDeluxe
11-07-2008, 02:09 AM
I may go back and do that, but the thing is, stuff like that is very tedious and overall just not fun. So maybe, maybe not.

Also, if you haven't read my thread from the projects forum, I've decided to quit the level design thing(maybe after my first level, maybe not) and just do monsters. Mebbe I could team up with one of you guys who prefers just making the levels. Right now I'm working on metal gear Rex, which has a strange absence of profile view pics. :( Anyway, I guess I'll just see how the rest of my level goes and decide based on that.

gevurah22
11-07-2008, 02:55 AM
I may go back and do that, but the thing is, stuff like that is very tedious and overall just not fun. So maybe, maybe not.

Also, if you haven't read my thread from the projects forum, I've decided to quit the level design thing(maybe after my first level, maybe not) and just do monsters. Mebbe I could team up with one of you guys who prefers just making the levels. Right now I'm working on metal gear Rex, which has a strange absence of profile view pics. :( Anyway, I guess I'll just see how the rest of my level goes and decide based on that.

LOL, welcome to my world. Tell you what, get through this and you'll see how much easier it is afterwards. ^^

Understanding the mechanics of it all and making them work within LBP's realm is the hardest part.

kit07
11-07-2008, 03:24 PM
this looks awesome can't wait to show off my Sun Boss

BassDeluxe
11-12-2008, 02:10 AM
I made some changes today. The dragon is still invincible at the moment, but I've changed the legs and the fire, along with other minor changes. The legs not only look 10x better now, but are also very organic seeming. The fire disapears after .5 seconds and leaves the mouth in a fan, making it seem much more like fire breath. Hopefully I can have a video of the boss fight by this weekend.

lionhart180
11-12-2008, 02:45 AM
I'd suggest using my Jet technique to add realistic smoke. Just stick a huge jet in his moth and tone down the strength, makes a really nice looking smoke effect, or put 2 in his nostrils to make him snort smoke.

I'm not good mechanics wize, but I've got a knach for adding that artistic flare that makes it look more realistic.

Zorez
11-16-2008, 07:49 PM
Great job on the creation. I really like the way you designed the wings. And i think that you picked a very cool creature to try and put on LittleBigPlanet. Way to go!! :D