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Killian
11-05-2008, 08:45 PM
Well I don't have the game yet so I can't really decide on all of the materials I wish were in it but I'd like to see a kind of muck material that slowed you down (got the idea from MS:PR) and a flexible material that bends under pressure.

What about you guys?

Gondito
11-05-2008, 08:53 PM
I would like water, ice, sand (mostly for asthetic purposes), and more shiny materials, like the aztec gold

Killian
11-05-2008, 08:56 PM
I would like water, ice, sand (mostly for asthetic purposes), and more shiny materials, like the aztec gold

I think they took ice out due to gameplay complications. Sand would be cool, and reflective materials. Maybe a mirror!

Gondito
11-05-2008, 08:58 PM
I think they took ice out due to gameplay complications. Sand would be cool, and reflective materials. Maybe a mirror!

i dont understand how it hurt the gameplay, i know glass replaced it, but no one said we couldnt have both!

Killian
11-05-2008, 09:05 PM
i dont understand how it hurt the gameplay, i know glass replaced it, but no one said we couldnt have both!

Ice froze you but you could still move around I think. It was a danger like fire but it may have created some glitches and exploits.

Marino
11-05-2008, 09:08 PM
Flesh.

>_>

DaSaintFan
11-05-2008, 09:11 PM
a) Crystal clear glass... I could really use this something fierce.. the glass that's default in the game works sometimes, but a lot of times it's not transparent "enough"

b) White Felt... Was playing around on a blank level and was making a football field and had no white felt to go with the green.. cotton beige definitely did not work, and I hated wasting sticker space for the white coloring... Of course, I threw that level away after seeing a few football field ones.

c) Glossy Silver metal. (most of the other colors I can get through stickers but I can't make a gloss-silver (like the top of glass salt-shakers)).

Killian
11-05-2008, 09:11 PM
Flesh.

>_>

Nice and floppy. :kz:

Gondito
11-05-2008, 09:14 PM
Flesh.

>_>

that might be a little too graphic for lbp, :eek:

how bout a material that, when activated like dissolving matrerial, will crumble into rubble, but wont dissapear, and it could be tweaked to change the density of the rubble, and the formations it cracks in... wait, that would be awesome! and that was off the top of my head!

Killian
11-05-2008, 09:16 PM
that might be a little too graphic for lbp, :eek:

how bout a material that, when activated like dissolving matrerial, will crumble into rubble, but wont dissapear, and it could be tweaked to change the density of the rubble, and the formations it cracks in... wait, that would be awesome! and that was off the top of my head!

We gotta get ourselves on the dev team!

Gondito
11-05-2008, 09:20 PM
think its a good idea to put that idea in its own suggestion thread?

Ozymandias
11-05-2008, 09:20 PM
How about... plastic?

It's clear (sort of like class), and you won't slip around too much on it either.... not only that, stickers show up clearly on it =P

Killian
11-05-2008, 09:25 PM
think its a good idea to put that idea in its own suggestion thread?

Stick it in with another idea and it should be good. If you really wanted to you could do it with switches but it would take a lot of effort. I wouldn't want them to add so much to the game as to make it easy to create anything.

dorien
11-05-2008, 10:00 PM
This is what i wrote in the questions for Alex Evans


My materials i would like to see would be Water (or more to the point LIQUIDS) which is an obvious one, sand could be fun, jelly (that would wobble), cloth also that could be grabbed and used as a bridge to walk across - Think Armadillo Run if anyone has played that (loved it)

I used to love playing Armadillo Run and LBP reminds me of Armadillo Run/LineRider
For those of you that have never played Armadillo Run then THIS IT IT VVVVVV

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ClankXIII
11-05-2008, 10:04 PM
A special material that can be set to expand or contract on cue or with triggers.

Sack-Jake
11-05-2008, 10:05 PM
I was thinking sand, water, mirrors (maybe a sub-category under glass) and like someone said before, a mucky substance that restricted movement.

Coltfirearms
11-05-2008, 10:10 PM
:pI wish they had Something bouncy like if you jump on the rubber it is automatically bouncy. (if you dont have the game the rubber isnt bouncy.):p

big93
11-05-2008, 10:17 PM
i want a better slippery surface... glass sucks, if you put a glass ramp, and glass block, for some reason theres little specs the get stuck... it's annoying... we need a matieral that is slippery and good for building... not just decorative...

Tyler
11-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Gelatin.

Since water physics are extremely complicated, why not have gelatin? Works just like water (you can swim around in it), but it sort of moves around like any other object with physics.

Ozymandias
11-05-2008, 11:02 PM
i want a better slippery surface... glass sucks, if you put a glass ramp, and glass block, for some reason theres little specs the get stuck... it's annoying... we need a matieral that is slippery and good for building... not just decorative...



that's not the glass, it's the fact that even a circle is made up of many sides (20 if you use the default circle tool). A ramp, for instance, is made up of many flat sides. You can smooth it out by adding more.

chiropractor345
11-05-2008, 11:49 PM
cloth, felt etc... SOmething that can be grabbed onto by the player (like sponge) but is very flexible, it would bend on its own when yo grab it. It would be very helpful.

Pinkcars
11-05-2008, 11:50 PM
Maybe some high traction, or even something Sackboy half sinks into, like mud. Also maybe some different lethals

Gondito
11-06-2008, 02:32 AM
Stick it in with another idea and it should be good. If you really wanted to you could do it with switches but it would take a lot of effort. I wouldn't want them to add so much to the game as to make it easy to create anything.

i have done that, and i thought the result was pretty stunning, check it out in my level: Roman Fibers, just search my PSN or add me

Mitos
11-06-2008, 06:18 PM
How about pure gold, or pure, clean diamond? :D

That would be terrific!

Ozymandias
11-06-2008, 06:26 PM
They should also add back in ice/dry ice...

Mitos
11-06-2008, 07:01 PM
They should also add back in ice/dry ice...

dry ice? :D Whats that like?

Ozymandias
11-06-2008, 07:04 PM
dry ice? :D Whats that like?

It's like... carbon dioxide in solid form... fun stuff =P

it makes the room all foggy, and when you touch it... well... that's the not-fun part, hehe.

Gilgamesh
11-06-2008, 07:09 PM
I don't know if it is in as I haven't finished all the story levels yet, but I would love to have a magnetic material. It could be attracted to (and attract) metallic materials, but would be repelled by other magnetic materials. The size of the object itself would determine how magnetic it is :)

GeoSoto18
11-06-2008, 07:12 PM
This isn't so much a different material as just a different approach.. I wish instead of using dissolve material it just had a "dissolve tool" where you could designate any material to dissolve.

Ozymandias
11-06-2008, 07:13 PM
This isn't so much a different material as just a different approach.. I wish instead of using dissolve material it just had a "dissolve tool" where you could designate any material to dissolve.

Yes, sometimes you don't want people to be able to grab things you want to dissolve, or you want them to have a specific texture...

Mitos
11-06-2008, 09:15 PM
It's like... carbon dioxide in solid form... fun stuff =P

it makes the room all foggy, and when you touch it... well... that's the not-fun part, hehe.

Arh, that way. Sounds cool. :D

squishy_squid
11-06-2008, 10:07 PM
Furrrrrr, I would love to create enemys with a little fur on their back.

Pinkcars
11-06-2008, 10:32 PM
Not really a material, but maybe points that float? I hate dropping tons of points only to have them roll in contortion.

sjbluedog24
11-06-2008, 10:40 PM
I want a leather material, just for basic material.

qrtda235566
11-06-2008, 11:56 PM
Yes, sometimes you don't want people to be able to grab things you want to dissolve, or you want them to have a specific texture...

Then, you use bombs! They go kaboom!

Killian
11-07-2008, 07:35 PM
These are all really great ideas. A material like the one that's used on the flags would be great. You could wrap it around stuff etc.


i have done that, and i thought the result was pretty stunning, check it out in my level: Roman Fibers, just search my PSN or add me

I'll add you next time I'm on. :)

Bloppyblue
11-09-2008, 02:55 AM
How about velcro or clay? Like, a material that will harden if you stand on it too long.

FlowersInHisHair
11-09-2008, 11:45 AM
Jelly! Bouncy bouncy, wibbly wobbly.
http://i38.tinypic.com/11wdi8l.jpg
It would be bouncy, like a trampoline effect. AND it could come in different colours, referred to as flavours! Lemon, strawberry, lime...

Sack-Jake
11-09-2008, 12:53 PM
Not really a material, but maybe points that float? I hate dropping tons of points only to have them roll in contortion.
Yeah, Mm does it in their levels, but they can't give that power to us.

Snrm
11-09-2008, 04:50 PM
Jelly! Bouncy bouncy, wibbly wobbly.
http://i38.tinypic.com/11wdi8l.jpg
It would be bouncy, like a trampoline effect. AND it could come in different colours, referred to as flavours! Lemon, strawberry, lime...

that would be a very very good idea.. i love it!

it could be perfect for any level as a bouncy platform!

qrtda235566
11-09-2008, 05:49 PM
How about the material the snake is made out of in the dream trailer? It's at 0:44.
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It looks so fun to bounce around on. I was so dissapointed when I learned it was just an object, not a material...

And I also wish we had fabric that we could run under like at GDC.

floor3013
11-09-2008, 05:57 PM
Id like some sort of magnetic material that sackboy can be 'attracted' to, or when set to inverted, repel against.

Justin Hopewell
11-10-2008, 04:42 AM
Here are some ideas:

Fur - Very Light Material, grabbable, slightly heavier than a pink floaty, so it gently floats to the ground if falling. The fur would move and bounce as its pulled around in the game world.

For stickers, more solid color options. A circle gradient. No black edges on stickers. Sometimes you can't get a sticker big enough, and you put another sticker on to blend it in, but it leaves behind a black line border that kind of ruins it.

As mentioned above:

Plastic - Basic Light Material, like cardboard, except it would be glossier and sound more "plasticky" when things collided with it

Transparent glass would also be welcome, and glass panes without the wobbly faces, too. Sometimes I'd just rather have smooth glass with a nice reflection, like some of the metal textures.

Sand would be nice, though making it deformable would probably require a major update to the game engine. Even without it deforming, a nice sand burst particle effect would be nice when your sackboy or any other object moves over it.

Setting materials to be breakable upon a specified amount of force would be great, too, as we know the functionality exists since explosions can blow up some materials.

Plasmavore
11-11-2008, 06:20 PM
mirrors. and hinges hinges aren't really materials but i wish they were in

Pinkcars
11-11-2008, 06:58 PM
Id like some sort of magnetic material that sackboy can be 'attracted' to, or when set to inverted, repel against.

sounds like a level breaker when an idiot uses it lol

Killian
11-11-2008, 07:38 PM
mirrors. and hinges hinges aren't really materials but i wish they were in

Yeah hinges would be very useful.

PinkyLaRue
11-12-2008, 12:56 PM
It's a point stuck to a wafer piece of dark matter, the tiniest little wafer piece. I think it is, anyway.

neonrage0
12-15-2008, 05:20 PM
Lead, a ridiculously heavy material, a small square on a small grid weighs the same as a block of stone 3 times it's size, while the heaviest, it'll look kinda ugly at times.

I_Sack_therefore_I_Am?
12-18-2008, 09:53 PM
I forget where i heard this but sand can be created by useing the stone tool and cloning it and making it tiny. I really wish there was a kind of frosted glass material. It would look very nice with some of my levels. Good for christmas too.

isthiswhereiputm
12-20-2008, 04:05 PM
A brick wall material under the stone category, rather than having to plaster everything with those brick pattern stickers.

neonrage0
12-20-2008, 04:42 PM
A material that disintergrates/burns down on contact with stuff like fire or explosives.

Luminous_Reaver
12-21-2008, 03:59 PM
Gelatin.

Since water physics are extremely complicated, why not have gelatin? Works just like water (you can swim around in it), but it sort of moves around like any other object with physics.

Run/duck into it, grab, and press the jump button to swim inside?
Do I have the right idea?

Sakboy
12-21-2008, 04:06 PM
Magnets set to attract to one another at certain speeds and strengths!

:p

RAINFIRE
12-21-2008, 04:06 PM
i like all of those materials, but one thing they need to add is the ability to make the string an active object, so the string does not go through things but interacts with them, such as making pullies or other stuff like that and including an intire set of that kind of object, like chain, string, and a bunch of other stuff.

Cheers!

Luminous_Reaver
12-22-2008, 12:15 PM
How about new varieties of Dark Matter that have effects on gravity.
A brand of the special Dark Matter, for example will have vertical gravity strong enough to lift very light materials... The range of the gravitational pull could be something like double the length/width of used Dark Matter. Materials secured to heavier materials wouldn't be affected. Another brand of the material would have the same effect, only horizontally. A third type would effect both.

Surrounding yourself in enough of this special Dark Matter to pull your sack, and you'll float. Fun stuff. How about materials with reverse gravity?

Run with it, Mm.

New types of dissolve material that dissolve differently would be cool, too.
Dissolve to rubble, twinkle away, turn into a bunch of bubbles, and float off...

...Bouncy materials, and swimming-type have already been mentioned a few times... They're awesome, too.



Realistically though, I just want more futuristic looking metals, smooth glass, and maybe some bricks. More polystyrene, too. That section is empty.

kobrakai15
12-22-2008, 01:58 PM
Velcro that the sack boy can peel on and off and if he jumps at it he sticks? Has some possibilities...

Gilgamesh
12-22-2008, 02:00 PM
Well, since people seem to be against the idea of being able to edit material properties a-la cow glitch, I have a new one I would absolutely need. "Light" Dissolve material. The current Dissolve material is much too heavy, it would be really useful to have Dissolve material that weighs as little as cardboard.

lordflash11
12-22-2008, 08:05 PM
Cloth. I saw this in one of the early demonstrations in E3 and dont know why they took it out. It just hangs on a piece of wood and you can stick stickers on it and stuff :)

stuffstufflbp
01-19-2009, 12:07 AM
I love that cloth stuff too.
I also want that ice hazard back from a long time ago where that fat guy was demonstrating different hazards.
I also like the dissolve tool ,nice idea
Does anyone think 4 layers would be good??? like an option to switch between 4 and 3 layers or even no layers for a like hang out place where you hang out and talk with friends

neonrage0
01-25-2009, 06:41 PM
White Floaty - This material acts like the orange(?) stuff, but it's path of ascension cannot be disturbed unless it hits a ceiling.
Switching-Existance - This material may change from solid to walk-throughable with the touch of a button, and back again, unlike Dissolve.

Killian
01-26-2009, 09:35 PM
White Floaty - This material acts like the orange(?) stuff, but it's path of ascension cannot be disturbed unless it hits a ceiling.


Like the proposed lead material except it goes the other way. :P

Shermzor
01-29-2009, 12:09 PM
Velcro needs to be added, one part with hooks, another with fluff and then select and square to set how strong the bond is.

InsanityV2
01-29-2009, 01:04 PM
I think there needs to be a magnetic material, or some other way of attching items together on the fly. Like, when near each other, they stick like glue.

Zorez
01-29-2009, 03:51 PM
Umm, i was thinking something like gravel or soil,that you could pour like those powder games, and hinges, lead, and mirrors would also be cool :).

Wyth
01-30-2009, 09:13 AM
Umm, i was thinking something like gravel or soil,that you could pour like those powder games, and hinges, lead, and mirrors would also be cool :).

You could make the powder yourself, just a load of small objects, material depends on how you want it to behave. It will probaply wreak havoc on your thermometer though..

Sackdragon
01-30-2009, 11:33 AM
I'm just good with some new Polystrene. Oh, and funhouse mirrors. Everybody wants their sack to be fat and wide or long and skinny.

01philip01
01-31-2009, 04:25 PM
that might be a little too graphic for lbp, :eek:

how bout a material that, when activated like dissolving matrerial, will crumble into rubble, but wont dissapear, and it could be tweaked to change the density of the rubble, and the formations it cracks in... wait, that would be awesome! and that was off the top of my head!



To Graphic?
This is a ps3 Were talking about. Not a Wii :)

Boomy
01-31-2009, 05:38 PM
Uranium, anything that touches it causes a mass explosion that can be slowed down/sped up, so it can chase you.

S-A-S--G-U-N-R
02-01-2009, 01:48 PM
I know many people have mentioned water before but instead of it being either a danger/ area where sackboy can swim they could make it both. If they put in a tweaking menu for it then you would be able to set is as dangerous/ safe and if you set it as dangerous there would be a tweakable air limit. Also they could maybe make options for how solid/ liquid it is.:p

*01philip01* what he meant was what people could use it for would be too graphic (mature) for LBP.

Pinchanzee
02-01-2009, 03:07 PM
Play-doh..