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Riven02
11-06-2008, 06:46 PM
Guys I need your input.

The wife and I FINALLY finished our LVL It is called "Little Big Ark". We must have 25 hours into this lvl!!!

The lvl is very large with a complete thermometer and will take a minimum if 15 minutes to complete.

In the lvl you have to bring 4 animals back to the ark. Each animal is located through a set of unique obsticles. This equates to 4 small lvls. Each animal has a built in return path so backtracking is greatly reduced or eliminated. The ark is centrally located.

The Bear cave is my fav =P

Once the animals are returned the rain will start and the flood waters will raise. Be sure your on the boat!! It will take you to saftey.

This lvl has many complex mechanisms and traps and is quite challenging. It is hard enough I have trouble aceing it but not so hard the wife can not complete it. A couple of the obsticles are much harder than the rest but I tryed to supply 2x respawn on those areas, but is something is to hard be sure to let me know. I think most of you will be fine though. The end payoff is worth it! It gives a feeling of accomplishment.

Also, you can earn a couple trophies along the way. 20X multiplier, Incredible Hieght, All are earned in the context of the lvl with no cheap gimicks found in trophy lvls.

We have tested this lvl ALOT and everything appears to be solid, but I am requesting feedback from you. Mainly I am looking for comments on diffuculty, style, etc. and just to make sure everything works well for you. I am looking for input to better this lvl and improve future lvls.

Its name again is Little Big Ark. It is located in Texas.

I was having trouble finding it with a search, so if you run into that issue Please add me to your friends list (Riven02) to test it.

I am really looking forward to your input. I think most of you will really enjoy it!

Please leave your feedback for me here or in an instant Message. Also, please be sure to heart the level and me!!

Right now it doesnt appear to show up in cool lvls anywhere so you will have to search or add me but I think youll find its worth it.

QuozL
11-06-2008, 06:59 PM
Sounds great will check it out now, oh and welcome to the site.

Cheers QuozL

Riven02
11-06-2008, 07:09 PM
Thx for the welcome! So far I have had some really good feedback and last time I checked a good heart to play ratio. (11 hearts to 40 or so plays)

QuozL
11-06-2008, 08:04 PM
Okay some feedback from early play. The cloud scene is a bit too tight in between the thunder clouds but do-able, just, online, the second jet pack doesn't pick up as the player is on the front plane after getting through the tight clouds with the first pack on so you need to make it easier to pick up. The rubber platforms don't fire consistently when you land on them causing you to have to drop back down and walk away to reset them (not sure if this is planned this way?)

When you do get the bird or any animal for that matter back to the ark you don't get any notification of where they have to be on the ark. I pushed the bird off the back of the ark thinking I had to put it inside but because the bird was on the front plane I couldn't pull it up the back ramp.

The buffalo section was great, no bugs in there got him back and in the ark but again no notification he was in correctly. I went to grab the bear next and got as far as grabbing the swinging light but had no idea what to do from there? I tired grabbing the other side underneath the cliff edge but the material didn't seem like it was graspable and there was no where obvious to go if it had.

Going back in for another go now will post if I have any other comments, but overall is very enjoyable and will be great with a few tweaks.

Cheers QuozL

Riven02
11-06-2008, 08:13 PM
The animals trigger a perm switch when they get to the boat. So it doesnt matter where they are as long as they have at some point been on the boat. The plan however was to put notification by an emitting mouth but my lvl over heated when I added one of them.

I will tweak the jet pack location.

The rubber jump pad things only fire if you land right in the middle. If I increase the radius they fire then it seemed it was inconsistant how far it threw me. So I made them require a very percise landing but it made them fire more consistant. I can look into tweaking them more.

From the light swing you can grab the cave ceiling on the right. from there you can swing and grab to travel across the ceiling. Its a little tricky at first but you can go pretty quick aross the flat ceiling.

Marino
11-06-2008, 08:15 PM
I can't find it. :(

Can you friend MarinoLBP? :)

QuozL
11-06-2008, 08:22 PM
The animals trigger a perm switch when they get to the boat. So it doesnt matter where they are as long as they have at some point been on the boat. The plan however was to put notification by an emitting mouth but my lvl over heated when I added one of them.

I will tweak the jet pack location.

The rubber jump pad things only fire if you land right in the middle. If I increase the radius they fire then it seemed it was inconsistant how far it threw me. So I made them require a very percise landing but it made them fire more consistant. I can look into tweaking them more.

From the light swing you can grab the cave ceiling on the right. from there you can swing and grab to travel across the ceiling. Its a little tricky at first but you can go pretty quick aross the flat ceiling.

Ok I thought it was something like this re the animals and switch I forgot you mentioned the thermometer was full :) Ok I would leave the pads as they are then as it only took a couple of goes to get up to the top.

I thought this may be the trick with the cave ceiling but stubborn me kept trying to see if there was a way down below :)

I'll get back in there in a bit and have another go,I've been up all night and it;s 7:30 AM here so probably not in the best condition to be testing a tricky level but again I really enjoyed it. BTW Marino, I found it searching the name LittleBigArk

Cheers QuozL

Riven02
11-06-2008, 08:24 PM
Im at work right now. I wont be home for about 2.5 more hours. It doesnt show up on the cool lvls map but it seemed to show up by searching "Ark". I will add you when I get home though. Or better yet so I dont forget you might go ahead and send me an invite.

Its Riven02 on the PSN also.

Marino
11-06-2008, 08:33 PM
Im at work right now. I wont be home for about 2.5 more hours. It doesnt show up on the cool lvls map but it seemed to show up by searching "Ark". I will add you when I get home though. Or better yet so I dont forget you might go ahead and send me an invite.

Its Riven02 on the PSN also.

Already did. :arg:

Voltiare
11-06-2008, 08:40 PM
So you only need one member of each species? Seems like a waste of time to save them if they can't breed after the flood. And only 4 species? What about the other millions? We just let them all die? Am I thinking about this too much? I think I am thinking about this too much. I'll stop now.

Riven02
11-06-2008, 08:48 PM
Lol that is what my wife said when I had the concept and was telling her about it =P I wanted to put 2 of each animal in but it just took to long to get them all back to the boat. I thought people would stop playing it as it already takes quite a while to complete. So to get around it I just say something along the lines of "All of the other animals have been gathered only 4 are missing". I cant remember exactly, but you can assume the others have already been saved =P

Voltiare
11-06-2008, 08:52 PM
Lol that is what my wife said when I had the concept and was telling her about it =P I wanted to put 2 animals in but it just took to long to get them all back to the boat. So to get around it I just say something along the lines of "All of the other animals have been gathered only 4 are missing". I cant remember exactly, but you can assume the others have already been saved =PI believe this is worth mentioning.

YouTube - BIBLE GAMES - review by the Angry Video Game Nerd

The first game he reviews is a game where you have to get animals into the Ark. I couldn't leave this thread without posting it.

Marino
11-06-2008, 08:56 PM
Woah. Thanks a ton, your idea just gave me inspiration!

I think I will make a big level with various fairytales throughout like:

Rapunzel: You can climb the hair to get up into a tower!
Hansel and Gretel: Follow the trail to the candy house and defeat the witch!
Cinderella: Go to the ball on a carriage to meet your prince(ss)
Snow White: Go meet the seven dwarves!

If a lot of people like this idea then I might make a new project; but I don't think we need another. :p

EDIT: I searched 'Ark' and I still can't find it. :(

Voltiare
11-06-2008, 09:04 PM
Hansel and Gretel: Follow the trail to the candy house and defeat the witch!

Follow the trail to the candy house

candy house

candy
I'm hungry. And I doubt LBP can do candy justice. They need Graham Cracker and Vanilla Icing materials.

Riven02
11-08-2008, 11:09 PM
So what did you guys think?

RedPanda
11-09-2008, 03:35 AM
I believe this is worth mentioning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNvQYiM6bw

The first game he reviews is a game where you have to get animals into the Ark. I couldn't leave this thread without posting it.

Thanks.... now I've spent over 4 hours watching videos from this guy >.> AND LOVED THIS VIDEO MORE THAN ANY!! LMAO

Voltiare
11-09-2008, 06:25 AM
Thanks.... now I've spent over 4 hours watching videos from this guy >.> AND LOVED THIS VIDEO MORE THAN ANY!! LMAOYeah, the AVGN is pretty popular and he deserves it. He posts his newer videos on gametrailers nowadays.

RedPanda
11-09-2008, 06:50 AM
yep - been there since 11:00 - it's almost 3:00 now *yawn* lol

Traxxer911
11-09-2008, 07:04 AM
I really enjoyed your level Riven. My only problem was the bear cave. I didn't understand what to do until I played a Gladiators level that explained how to grab the ceiling and then keep jumping and moving forward. Other then that it was pretty sweet.

A resolution to your "Why only for animals and 1 of each" comment is to add more story to the beginning. Something in the lines of..."The ark is almost full, we're just missing 4 animals." something of that sort.

Test out my level if you can and tell me what ya think. It's titled "2012" PSN: Traxxer911

RedPanda
11-09-2008, 08:34 AM
Just got the chance to play it - a few things :

1) once I got the buffalo thingie going up the ramp - it flipped on it's back :( I had to push it up the ramp slowly for the trigger to hit.

2) The N O A H platform. I got sooooo excited that I hopped it correctly - just to be rewarded with 2 flaming death platforms from nowhere that murdered me :( poo

3) As long as this level is, the double check point is a must in almost every situation. The cheetah was my last animal, and while trying to reach him, we were on our last life and barely made the last leap. Most people playing, if they get a game over 9 minutes into a level, would not replay to get the ending.

All in all - I hearted and gave you a 5 - loved the concept and the level laid itself out nicely :) I loved the bear - lol. we took him to the finish line with us... he was pleased ^.^

anjang86
11-09-2008, 11:30 AM
It's a great level but there are some frustrating things that deserve mentioning:

1. The clouds are an extremely tight fit in the bird level. You have to go REAL slow
2. Took a while to figure out at first how to crawl-grab in the bear level.
3. The double fire balls in the cheetah level after NOAH are really unexpected. I understand the element of surprise but I think the player should have a little bit of a warning.

Finally.. and my biggest gripe... what the heck am I supposed to do with the animals? I played for 15 minutes and couldn't capture the bear. Then another player joined and we played for about an hour and finally caught every animal then all the sudden the bird crash lands on the arc and disappears. We tried AGAIN and managed to get all the animals but didn'tk now where they were supposed to go on the arc. Everything but the buffalo is in the foreground and the buffalo itself is in the background. We couldn't finish the level because we didn't know what to do next.

Anyway, it was very frustrating but well worth the play. These are the types of levels I'm hoping more and more people create. Time spenders where you have to EARN the reward.

Good job.

UmJammerSully
11-09-2008, 12:39 PM
Your level is underated Riven, I really enjoyed it. I kept dying on the forest of fire and had to start all over again! It's hard for sure but good hard. :P

Riven02
11-09-2008, 04:45 PM
It's a great level but there are some frustrating things that deserve mentioning:

1. The clouds are an extremely tight fit in the bird level. You have to go REAL slow
2. Took a while to figure out at first how to crawl-grab in the bear level.
3. The double fire balls in the cheetah level after NOAH are really unexpected. I understand the element of surprise but I think the player should have a little bit of a warning.

Finally.. and my biggest gripe... what the heck am I supposed to do with the animals? I played for 15 minutes and couldn't capture the bear. Then another player joined and we played for about an hour and finally caught every animal then all the sudden the bird crash lands on the arc and disappears. We tried AGAIN and managed to get all the animals but didn'tk now where they were supposed to go on the arc. Everything but the buffalo is in the foreground and the buffalo itself is in the background. We couldn't finish the level because we didn't know what to do next.

Anyway, it was very frustrating but well worth the play. These are the types of levels I'm hoping more and more people create. Time spenders where you have to EARN the reward.

Good job.

Thx for all the feedback guys.

The animals all get pulled onto the boat. All but the buffalo go up the ramp on the right into the deck area.

One thing I should mention is all of the mechanisms are perma switches so if the animals fall off it will still work. As long as they have been on the boat the water will still raise at the end.

anjang86
11-09-2008, 06:10 PM
Thx for all the feedback guys.

The animals all get pulled onto the boat. All but the buffalo go up the ramp on the right into the deck area.

One thing I should mention is all of the mechanisms are perma switches so if the animals fall off it will still work. As long as they have been on the boat the water will still raise at the end.

How far does the buffalo have to go? Me and the other guy brought the apple over but the buffalo stopped moving after a while. The apple ended up on the right side of the boat and we could no longer use it to pull the buffalo since it was probably out of its range. I think that might have been the issue because you could see part of the buffalo's tail out the left side of the arc.

Riven02
11-09-2008, 06:21 PM
If you cant see the buffalo anymore he should be close enough. I tried to make the radius large enough that even if something happened that he turned over it would still work.

I did this because one time when the wife and I was testing I got in the buffalos way and he tried to run over me and ended up flipping over.

Riven02
11-11-2008, 04:33 PM
The lvl has been republished

Tweaked some of the sensor radii.
Fixed the glitch that caused to bird to die rarely. Since this happened so rarely I can not be 100% sure until I get feedback from you guys.

Added Prizes for completion collecting all items and aceing the lvl.

Added small decor touches.

and some small misc stuff.

ryryryan
11-11-2008, 05:24 PM
Nice. On the weekend i'll search for you and give it a try :)

Robber
11-11-2008, 07:27 PM
I threw all the weights off the cloud and couldn't continue. I read that I had to put them in the basket later. :S

Riven02
11-11-2008, 09:34 PM
I threw all the weights off the cloud and couldn't continue. I read that I had to put them in the basket later. :S


LOL what made you want to throw them off?

Riven02
11-14-2008, 06:37 PM
LvL has been republished

I have added music for each animal in the lvl and added many sound effects. TO be honest the sounds make a much larger improvement to the lvl than I expected. It has especially made the ending MUCH better.

Riven02
11-15-2008, 01:35 AM
Republished again

This time an angel now sounds when the animals are returned and the bird ramp has been reworked to lessen the chance the bird can die. All of the sensors should now be hidden also.

Gilgamesh
11-16-2008, 09:14 PM
Excellent level, some parts were very tricky, but doable. I found it kind of funny when the cheetah disintegrated itself against the Ark and took out the bird and bear, but found out that the level still carried on correctly and I didn't have to do it all over again for a fluke. Good show :)

Riven02
12-06-2008, 02:38 AM
Crossed 1600 plays now!! but it slowing down ALOT only getting about 20 or so a day now. I ran out of ways to promote it =)