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StiefelKater
06-24-2011, 02:45 PM
Hi people of LBPCentral,
so I got an idea and I wanted to share it with ya. How 'bout a LittleBigPlanet version of the awesome game called Magicka? (Yeah I'll find a fancy title for it)
I'll explain it for those who don't know the game (Buy it for 10$ on steam, it's cheap and awesome!)
The whole idea
The whole idea is pretty much this: You get elements.
Life
This thing is obvious. It heals stuff. But care, it can heal your enemies too! Can't be combined with Arcane. Just doesn't work. As easy as ABC.
Earth
Mother nature says hi! Use this to throw rocks at people. Can't be combined with Lightning.
Fire
Burn baby, burn! Self explanation. You CAN actually combine this with water, but you'll get a new element:
Steam
Use this to blow your enemies away like a tornado. Only does damage if you blow them to a wall. Can't be combined with Cold.
Water
Use it to extinguish fire, duh. Your robe will get wet if you use it on yourself, after that you can't use Lightning or it'll hurt you. Can be combined with fire, but steam. Can't be combined with lightning.
Lightning
Use it to turn stuff on or to sizzle your enemies. Can't be combined with water or earth. Duh.
Cold
This freezes your enemies. BUT WAIT, you can't combine it with fire. Serious business huh? :p
However, use cold after you used water and you get
Ice
This thing is like a shotgun. It shoots multiple ice shards. Awesome huh? However, rule #2424921928: Don't combine it with fire.
Arcane
Hello sir! What are you doi- WOOSH. That is pretty much Arcane. Evil but awesome. Can't be combined with Life.
Shield
Yeah, shield. Use it to protect stuff. Now for the serious business: You can't combine it with itself. Only 1 shield per combination. :(

But what do you do with these things? WELL, YOU COMBINE STUFF. Wait what? How does that work? Are you crazy? Is it a bird or a plane? Did he died? No, no and no. It works like this:
You get 5 magic slots. Kinda like this:
OOOOO
You can fill them with your elements. Like this:
LOOOO
Now you set them free and that's where the magic happens: There's tons of combinations. For example Lightning and Arcane would make a ridiculously strong beam and Earth, Shield and Fire would make a awesome protected magic fire stones circle. You get what I mean, right? That, and you will find 'special' spells over the game. You can't use them without learning them. For example rain would be Steam + Cold and Triangle. Remember that, Triangle is the special magic button! If you press the normal button for magic instead of using triangle you won't get your special skill. Got that?
Story
You guys decide here. What do you think - should I take the story from the original game or use a custom story? Basically I'm for a custom story because I only played the demo but I'm not sure really.
Characters
Real ones:
http://s1.directupload.net/images/110624/temp/okc34rwn.jpg (http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2565/okc34rwn_jpg.htm)
LBP Version:
[Working on it, adding screens as soon as possible]
Realization
I thought about using cursors like in the real game. You know, like, you point with your cursor and run to your cursor by pressing X. That shouldn't be too hard. But because of that I thought about creating two versions of the game: A move one and a normal one. (Can people without move play move levels too? Because if that is true, I'll only create one version)
The character would rotate to the cursor and use his magic with that move button in the middle. (Is that a button? Will you be able to use it in LBP2? If not I would have to use square.)
You use X to examine stuff and pick stuff up as well. Oh! Oh! I forgot the most important thing! It'll be a top down RPG.
HUD
It's the same like in the real game. There's icons with all elements in the bottom left and they blink when their button is pressed. The life bar is above the character, however it would have to be very small as I want to add Co-op too. Also, by using the shield spell you get a shield HUD too, showing how much longer your shield will last. If you use heal it'll heal your shield and not yourself.
Multiplayer
I will add Multiplayer too, of course! Would be a shame if you couldn't kill each other while fighting a huge snake, right? Everyone would have the same health bar above his head, but each character would have a different colour. We don't want multiple red people going mad in the town, do we? Killing each other is possible, but healing is possible too. However I will add a PvP Arena thingy too so you can focus on killing your friends. All spells are already learned in the arena, you don't have to find stupid books to summon your little dead fellows!
Screenshots
Adding as soon as possible.
Progress
20%
Update 19th of July: Heck yeah, I added some cool stuff to the HUD! For example I added buttons over the icons of the elements so people know what to press. Nobodys got the brain of an elephant, right? :)
Also, I added the magic square. You have 4 slots for elements. It would work with all elements, but I got a problem with the arrows on the controller: How do you use the up and the down button alone? I mean, I know you can choose both, but how do you choose for example only the down button? If somebody could help me with that the elements would spawn perfectly. I tried it with the other elements already and it works just like I thought. Its tons of logic, but still pretty cool.
http://s7.directupload.net/images/110719/z98ue7w6.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)
I'm at 20% progress now! :D
Also, I added a shiny black intro with a tinier, more evil version of me. But don't worry, it's in a cage!
http://s7.directupload.net/images/110719/ekfy39js.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Feel free to ask any questions. Help is REALLY appreciated, my PSN is StiefelKater.
See you,
Stiefel

Roneranger
06-24-2011, 06:50 PM
Sounds amazing! I've heard of a game similar to the element combination, however it starts with water, fire, earth and air. (Known as the 4 basic elements.) Maybe you should steer the element thing that way to the basic ones. (If you want to play it, search for "Alchemy" [iPhone & Android only]).

I always love originality so I suggest you go for custom story. Make up your own characters and storyline. I'm also not really a big fan of RPG's since they all have cursors. Maybe you should let people choose whether to use Move or not, that will probably be simpler. (Use some of that old logic). Do you have particular jobs you want people to help you with?

StiefelKater
06-24-2011, 07:29 PM
Sounds amazing! I've heard of a game similar to the element combination, however it starts with water, fire, earth and air. (Known as the 4 basic elements.) Maybe you should steer the element thing that way to the basic ones. (If you want to play it, search for "Alchemy" [iPhone & Android only]).
I would love to play it really, but I have no smartphone :(

I always love originality so I suggest you go for custom story. Make up your own characters and storyline. Alright then! But I'll keep the basic idea, okay? [B]
I'm also not really a big fan of RPG's since they all have cursors. Maybe you should let people choose whether to use Move or not, that will probably be simpler. (Use some of that old logic). [B]That's what I wanted to do, but first I'll have to check how the move stuff works. 100% going to do it if it's possible.Do you have particular jobs you want people to help you with? Yeah, thanks for asking! I'm more of the logic guy, so I need some people who are good at designing and some who can create awesome music.
^ There, I added my text

fighterwindplus
06-24-2011, 08:28 PM
IT looks amazing are you looking for help. Because i would like to help. And Btw, you should go for a custom story,its much cooler when you create your own things. :)

StiefelKater
06-25-2011, 06:44 AM
IT looks amazing are you looking for help. Because i would like to help. And Btw, you should go for a custom story,its much cooler when you create your own things. :)
Sure you can! What are you good at? I need help at designing and music, would be cool if you could help me with one of those! :)
And yeah, you helped me with my decision: It will be a custom story with own characters and music.

fighterwindplus
06-25-2011, 06:47 AM
Sure you can! What are you good at? I need help at designing and music, would be cool if you could help me with one of those! :)
And yeah, you helped me with my decision: It will be a custom story with own characters and music.

:/ I'm good with logic, but I could also help you with scenery. :P

Dortr
06-25-2011, 07:22 AM
This would be an amazing remake! Hey my game takes a little inspiration from magika in the sense that some of the elements and attack types can be combined or countered... If thats the most amount of elements/attack types that are actually in magika than my game will have more! It already has 10 :D I wish you luck in recreating such a great game that will be perfect as a top down RPG! If you want feedback let me know and anyone in the meantime that is interested in this check out my game :D

StiefelKater
06-25-2011, 07:55 AM
:/ I'm good with logic, but I could also help you with scenery. :P Cool, would be awesome if you could! Add me, my PSN is StiefelKater


This would be an amazing remake! Hey my game takes a little inspiration from magika in the sense that some of the elements and attack types can be combined or countered... If thats the most amount of elements/attack types that are actually in magika than my game will have more! It already has 10 :D I wish you luck in recreating such a great game that will be perfect as a top down RPG! If you want feedback let me know and anyone in the meantime that is interested in this check out my game :D [B] Wow, I will take a look at it, thanks for the tip! Maybe your system will be better than Magickas, I'll take a look at it! [B]
Woosh, answered!

Roneranger
06-25-2011, 06:12 PM
When I get LBP2, I'm also buying Playstation Move, so I'll be able to test the animations and you'll have another opinion to work with. About the top down, are you using Sacks, or your own made characters. If you use sacks, I think it would be a good idea to make the view 3rd person. (So from an angle. I basically mean like what you see in Killzone: Liberation for PSP.)

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/725/725859/killzone-psp-screens-liberated-20060816042848506_640w.jpg

If that's not what your aiming for, I understand. I just want to point out a few other options that you could consider.

EDIT: I just realized, everything I've suggest is actually kinda steering the game to my personal favourites. So stick to the original idea, or add in another option in the......er.......options.

StiefelKater
06-25-2011, 07:29 PM
When I get LBP2, I'm also buying Playstation Move, so I'll be able to test the animations and you'll have another opinion to work with. About the top down, are you using Sacks, or your own made characters. If you use sacks, I think it would be a good idea to make the view 3rd person. (So from an angle. I basically mean like what you see in Killzone: Liberation for PSP.)

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/725/725859/killzone-psp-screens-liberated-20060816042848506_640w.jpg


If that's not what your aiming for, I understand. I just want to point out a few other options that you could consider.

EDIT: I just realized, everything I've suggest is actually kinda steering the game to my personal favourites. So stick to the original idea, or add in another option in the......er.......options.
Probably self made characters. Your camera angle would be a bit hard to realize, but I'll consider it. Thank you!

fighterwindplus
06-26-2011, 05:49 AM
:/ I'm good with logic, but I could also help you with scenery. :P Cool, would be awesome if you could! Add me, my PSN is StiefelKater
ALright i'll send you request i should be able to help u tommorow :)

Roneranger
06-26-2011, 03:38 PM
It's ok. Did you mention Move support by any chance.........:)

StiefelKater
06-26-2011, 06:00 PM
It's ok. Did you mention Move support by any chance.........:)
Yeah, I thought about making the cursor move-controlled but let people decide if they want to use move or just play without it.

StiefelKater
07-03-2011, 12:04 PM
UPDATE. For those who are too lazy to read:
Progress: 5%.
Update 3th of July: Started Project Magicka. First prototype of Character and Cursor is done. Control cursor with left analog stick. Character automatically rotates to cursor and moves to him by pressing X. Character is not supposed to look like real ones.
http://s7.directupload.net/images/110703/temp/66h6352k.jpg (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2574/66h6352k_jpg.htm)

Roneranger
07-03-2011, 02:17 PM
...Character is not supposed to look like real ones....
http://s7.directupload.net/images/110703/temp/66h6352k.jpg (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2574/66h6352k_jpg.htm)

Ok, nice to see something being written in this thread, after such a long time.

StiefelKater
07-17-2011, 03:55 PM
UPDATE. For those who are too lazy to read:
Progress: 9%.
Update 17th of July: Started again after a break! And here we go with a first proof of the HUD. The camera is quite a mess though. Would be awesome if someone could help me with that?
http://s7.directupload.net/images/110717/58bofjik.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

StiefelKater
07-19-2011, 08:30 PM
Update 19th of July: Heck yeah, I added some cool stuff to the HUD! For example I added buttons over the icons of the elements so people know what to press. Nobodys got the brain of an elephant, right? :)
Also, I added the magic square. You have 4 slots for elements. It would work with all elements, but I got a problem with the arrows on the controller: How do you use the up and the down button alone? I mean, I know you can choose both, but how do you choose for example only the down button? If somebody could help me with that the elements would spawn perfectly. I tried it with the other elements already and it works just like I thought. Its tons of logic, but still pretty cool.
http://s7.directupload.net/images/110719/z98ue7w6.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)
I'm at 20% progress now! :D
Also, I added a shiny black intro with a tinier, more evil version of me. But don't worry, it's in a cage!
http://s7.directupload.net/images/110719/ekfy39js.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Roneranger
07-21-2011, 06:01 PM
I think you should tinker with it a bit to find out which one works best. Besides, I haven't seen anyone else posting in this thread recently other than us two. :(

StiefelKater
07-22-2011, 03:52 PM
I think you should tinker with it a bit to find out which one works best. Besides, I haven't seen anyone else posting in this thread recently other than us two. :(

I know right. Where are all those creative heads when I need 'em? :(
Seems like nobody cares about this project. Maybe I should just make a bomb survival. People seem to like that more. Just kidding! But I could really need some help.

CardboardBoxMan
07-22-2011, 11:52 PM
I care!

It looks cool. Never played magicka, but the hud looks good. All the combinations make it sound really cool like I can play it 10 times and still see new combos.
I don't care about story, just make the game fun to play and make pvp cool and the level will be great.

Roneranger
07-23-2011, 12:48 PM
It will. What else do you have for us?

StiefelKater
07-23-2011, 02:43 PM
It will. What else do you have for us?

You mean what I built or what I will work on?
Well, progress is still 20%. However I need another creative head to complete it faster. Also, I made a decision: There will be two levels. One will be singleplayer and the other one Co-op with a built in arena you can choose to play in in the beginning. This is because of the HUD. I made it big, so it would suck to see two HUDs at the same time. I will shrink them in the Co-op game. I think I will continue building now. Also, thanks for the support CardboardBoxMan! I am sure you will like it when its done. Check this post later for updates.

Roneranger
07-25-2011, 10:57 AM
Are you still tinkering with the move support setting, have you stopped, or are you leaving that last? This with move will be pretty amazing. Looks great so far, if you've done a tech demo, I'd like to check it out.

StiefelKater
07-25-2011, 11:59 AM
Are you still tinkering with the move support setting, have you stopped, or are you leaving that last? This with move will be pretty amazing. Looks great so far, if you've done a tech demo, I'd like to check it out.

Hi,
at the moment it is impossible to do ANYTHING with move, because MM didn't release the movepack yet. :boo:
But I will try to do it as soon as its released.
However, I will work less on Magicka for now and focus more on another awesome project because its just darn much and I didn't release a level in LBP2 yet. If anyone wants to help I will come back to it, but its just too much for one person. I could do it, but it would take about 6 months lol. But if anyone cares, last thing I did was work on a Water + Life combination. It worked pretty good but still has some bugs. Like I said, I will focus more on another project.

Roneranger
07-25-2011, 12:03 PM
When are they releasing it? Is there a date or something? I don't know. Guess I'll just play the Cleverbot Game til then!