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theonlybub
07-10-2011, 05:51 AM
I have come to notice that almost every big star on Disney HAS to be a singer. It is so ridiculous. Most of them don't even have any singing ability. They use computers and lip syncing to get famous.

And then theres all the pop and rap music.... Don't even get me started. I tried listening to the new music that has been coming out, but I just can't take it. If you can't tell that they are using computers to fix up their voice, you must be crazy. I just can't see why people like Justin Beiber as well. I looked at one of concert videos, and he lip syncs.

I listen to the 80's music, because that was when good music was made. My dad loves that music still, and can't stand the music either. My brothers watch those stupid disney music show things and I can't stand them. They are so stupid and make no sense. It is as if all shows NEED to have relationships now too.

I wish I lived in a time where more things made sense....

Outlaw-Jack
07-10-2011, 07:22 AM
I have come to notice that almost every big star on Disney HAS to be a singer. It is so ridiculous. Most of them don't even have any singing ability. They use computers and lip syncing to get famous.

And then theres all the pop and rap music.... Don't even get me started. I tried listening to the new music that has been coming out, but I just can't take it. If you can't tell that they are using computers to fix up their voice, you must be crazy. I just can't see why people like Justin Beiber as well. I looked at one of concert videos, and he lip syncs.

I listen to the 80's music, because that was when good music was made. My dad loves that music still, and can't stand the music either. My brothers watch those stupid disney music show things and I can't stand them. They are so stupid and make no sense. It is as if all shows NEED to have relationships now too.

I wish I lived in a time where more things made sense....

Then get your mind outta the gutter and stop listening to that kind of music. The stereotypes don't represent everything.

Have you ever tried listening to some recent rock music or even country? The way they've taken music lately is turning out to be quite awesome, and some artists (Zach Brown Band, Adele, Plain White T's, Jack Johnson) that have been churning out music lately are some of my favorites so far. Just because they don't grab the media's attention and make the headlines doesn't mean that they're crap. In fact, it's quite the reverse.

Today's pop music and rap is just adapting to an ever-changing medium. At this point, kids are so stoned and wasted from whatever they've been smoking that anything with a loud bass and lyrics about (things I cannot mention on this website) is guaranteed record-smashing sales. And the younger groups need their own idols to look up to, i.e. Justin Bieber (the kid's alright... at least compared to everyone else). Justin is just using an old trick from the book; Brittany Spears did the exact same thing in the 90's.

For me, the 80's prove an old saying: it was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Sure, we got some good stuff coming out of there, but that's also where pop (that crap everyone listens to now these days) was born as was hair metal. That and the big names back then were long-haired, bloodshot-eyed skinny dudes who wore skin-tight leather pants and spikes in various places. Then again, I rarely listen to the 80's; the two decades before were a lot better (Beach Boys, The Eagles, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, etc.).

And about the Disney thing... that channel has degraded so much that I can't even bare giving it a glance anymore. Every "star" that appears on that channel ends up being a washed-up wanna-be. I mean, look what happened to Lindsey Lohan and Miley Cyrus.

If you really want an in-depth look into today's music, turn off MTV or VH1, or whatever you're watching, and look around. You'll be quite surprised.

OmegaSlayer
07-10-2011, 09:03 AM
I think there was already a topic about this.

Sackgirlsrule
07-10-2011, 09:24 AM
I have come to notice that almost every big star on Disney HAS to be a singer. It is so ridiculous. Most of them don't even have any singing ability. They use computers and lip syncing to get famous.

And then theres all the pop and rap music.... Don't even get me started. I tried listening to the new music that has been coming out, but I just can't take it. If you can't tell that they are using computers to fix up their voice, you must be crazy. I just can't see why people like Justin Beiber as well. I looked at one of concert videos, and he lip syncs.

I listen to the 80's music, because that was when good music was made. My dad loves that music still, and can't stand the music either. My brothers watch those stupid disney music show things and I can't stand them. They are so stupid and make no sense. It is as if all shows NEED to have relationships now too.

I wish I lived in a time where more things made sense....

Me too! I like older bands too, I still listen to some of the new country music such as Taylor Swift, Selena Gomez, but I only listened to one or two of their songs, the only ones I liked, I hate hard rock, I hate rapping.. I like Boston, I like Rascal Flatts, Rascal Flatts is my favorite band. I don't like old, old music, but around that time :)
I can't stand new music!

gdn001
07-10-2011, 10:51 AM
Disregard Pop, go underground. That's why there's been a sudden increase on the amount of pseudo-hipsters. :p

Oddmania
07-10-2011, 10:51 AM
I'm pretty sure there also were people who didn't exactly kill themselves singing in the past, but most of us remember the bee's knees. I don't think there's anything wrong with today's music. Some recent bands have really been making my day, everyday since I first listened to them, like The Script (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTQsJ6ZaOQ), Cage The Elephant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27TRan1SBI), Selah Sue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6hwcJdkVE), Gorillaz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04mfKJWDSzI) or James Blunt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofSnsGkops). I really enjoy listening to pop music too, like P!nk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJfFZqTlWrQ) or Avril Lavigne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KagvExF-ijc). I just try to select what I listen to and make do with what I've picked. It's not like there's only Justin Bieber in the world, there are plenty of artists that are waiting for you to listen to their songs.

And when I feel it's not enough, I eventually fall back on older (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzrDeceEKc) songs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg) or indie music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMVNFIewcpc), which is for me, the best thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gwzK--mdJ0) since peanut butter.

Alec
07-10-2011, 10:54 AM
Disregard Pop, go underground. That's why there's been a sudden increase on the amount of pseudo-hipsters. :p

Pfft. Hipsters doesn't listen to music, they listen to art.

Morgalaga
07-10-2011, 01:22 PM
While most new music of any kind does not interest me.
Devo made a new album last year and that has kept my hopes up still.
And I always like to see what Beck comes up with.

IMO most noticeable popular new music fails because they put too much faith into their badly written lyrics and make them stand out too much from the background music.
And they pound you with a very repetitive chorus so you remember it even if you don't wanna.

Weird Al is always there to make fun at least, though now I don't even know most the songs he spoofs.

But I liked that one song that has people riding on mopeds and a marching bad lip-syncing.
And some lady in a house that has glass cups arranged across the floor can sing extremely well.
(someone at my house turned on a top ten thingy)

And best thing of all, Tom Waits is still active.

abyssalassassin
07-11-2011, 12:02 AM
I'm mainly into Dubstep and Drum and Bass; stuff like Nero, Pendulum, Chase and Status, Skrillex, Flux Pavillion, that sort of thing. Electronic aswell, like DeadMau5 and The Firmament. But in general, pop music is great to listen to for a few times, then you want to just switch to another song, then another, then another... I've got more pop music in my library than any other genre, not because I like it more, but because there's so much more of a selection, and it gets boring faster so I have to switch up the songs more often. But sometimes there's an artist which just blows away the rest of mainstream crap. I was just listening to Eminem's Space Bound for a few hours and I'm still not bored. So, there is good mainstream material out there; it's just it's so deeply submerged in the rubbish that it's almost untraceable. Find an underground genre you like and you'll have a wealth of good songs to listen to, which suit your tastes. :p

Epicurean Dreamer
07-11-2011, 01:39 AM
Theonlybub, from your OP it sounds like you only listen to a very limited selection of music. Pop music has always been extremely stripped down to bare elements and almost always psychologically constructed to appeal to the largest listener demographic using certain chordal/modal interchanges, actually almost never deviating from the circle of fifths.

Pop music is designed by an institution to create capital/revenue based on market research and current (often seeded) cultural trends. It is nothing to do with music creation as an art.

To answer your question though, 'current music' is actually very innovative and creative if you look in the right places. The technology backing electronic music production is becoming very intelligent and some very interesting sounds are about in certain musical sub-cultures at the moment, especially some of the more experimental stuff. Boards of Canada come to mind as does Ortecha and allot of the more heavy stuff, NiT GriT has some really catchy tunes if you're into Dubstep. Then there's the older stuff like Steve Vai and of course the Beatles, Hendrix, Frank Zappa e.t.c. (just off the top of my head)

These people are actual artist and became artists because of a natural compulsion to express through the medium of shaping sound, completely different from POP artists that almost always become 'artists' (if you can call them that) as a catalyst to becoming a celebrity, they often have no actual true inspiration for music, tend to be quite shallow and have an industry of people around them telling them what to sing, how to act and what to wear.To put it in a nutshell, Simon Cowell is a poisonous curse on a generation.

The point is, if you spend some time delving under the surface of music as a medium you will find a lot of artist that still retain the un-pretentious, unique and emotionally charged perspective that is vital to good music production. Seriously, turn off the Disney channel, NEVER EVER turn it back on and do what you must to develop a bit of cultural integrity in music. It will do you a lot of good. :)

theonlybub
07-11-2011, 03:46 AM
First off, I was only talking about pop and it was MY OPINION not anyone Else's. What I listen to is mostly Christian music because of its soothing tone and quiet nature. I also listen to Weird Al, country, and some jazz.

I find that each person's opinion is different and they are entitled to it, but some people are stereotyping me.

Second, I do not watch MTV, Disney, or whatever VH1 is, I don't like watching things that will fry my brain.

Third, I have listened to every genera of music, so I know what is out there. I don't need to "look around", I already did, and I'm sticking to what I listen to know.

I LOVE the beatles, they really were one of the greatest bands of all times, and I would have loved to see them in concert.

This thread isn't about what "I" think, it is about what "you" think, so state your own opinion that does not involve me. ;) Thanks

(OmegaSlayer...how in the world did you get 2 thanks for that? That has NOTHING to do with this thread what-so-ever....)

49er Nation
07-11-2011, 04:57 AM
^Christian music and the Beatles. My man.

Macnme
07-11-2011, 12:04 PM
I remember the 80's - I was there.... it was worse than the holocaust (and I'm only exaggerating slightly).

Stupid Bouffant hair-do's, ridiculous Shoulder-Pads, Too much make-up, leg-warmers, sweat-bands ; and that was just the fashions..

The music was EVEN WORSE!;
Crappy synthesised pop on low-tech casio keyboards with over produced drums.... it was like listening to music through a birthday card.

No - the 80's are best buried and forgotten as a collective nightmare - never to be spoken of again.

The 70's on the other hand ;)

comishguy67
07-11-2011, 07:48 PM
LOL Well, I don't think music has gotten too bad. It's just that managers and labels advertise their products more so than others, and they appeal to a more... "juvenile" audience.

Kids today just like something that's catchy and has something to make them smile or laugh. Whether it's a melody or a "face". You're just exposed to more "bad" music than "good" music because that's what sells nowadays.

But trust me...good music is out there. I think this generation has the best (THE BEST!) underground music ever created imo.

There are literally thousand of indie artist out there making great music; some way ahead of their time in creativity and production.

Listen to some Ochre or Emancipator or Hans Zimmer or John Powell. Those are currently my favorite artists; can't get enough of their music. :love:

I mostly listen to music scores or cinematic music. But that's just a personal preference and it's something I'm trying to get paid to do if you catch me. ;)

Bust also dude, instead of "today's music", i think you should rather say "today's popular music" because that's what I think you're most referring to.

With the current advancements in technology, music has reached it's peak of perfection. Nothing in any time period comes close to the level of production that producers and musicians are capable of acheiving today...imo... :p

Also this: http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?56292-Your-thoughts-on-music-today

...is why people thanked Omega_Slayer's post.

:D

OmegaSlayer
07-13-2011, 08:33 AM
We can always ask a mod to merge the threads if you agree guys :)
@Comish... Hans Zimmer is cool, but I think he's recycling himself a bit too much :(
And Movie scores are getting more and more a work of mannerism :(
I miss the times of Vangelis, or Morricone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w0Xy_6WIY0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3jYz_iF1iQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXrQzsLDeMs

Tecnoguy1
07-13-2011, 12:32 PM
I have come to notice that almost every big star on Disney HAS to be a singer. It is so ridiculous. Most of them don't even have any singing ability. They use computers and lip syncing to get famous.

And then theres all the pop and rap music.... Don't even get me started. I tried listening to the new music that has been coming out, but I just can't take it. If you can't tell that they are using computers to fix up their voice, you must be crazy. I just can't see why people like Justin Beiber as well. I looked at one of concert videos, and he lip syncs.

I listen to the 80's music, because that was when good music was made. My dad loves that music still, and can't stand the music either. My brothers watch those stupid disney music show things and I can't stand them. They are so stupid and make no sense. It is as if all shows NEED to have relationships now too.

I wish I lived in a time where more things made sense....

Couldn't agree more. Kids have this obsession with god-qwul music these days, no one digs trough the old stuff.

My main problem with the type of singers you mentioned is they are just singers. They have no talent, anyone can sing a song, to be good you need to play some form of instrument, to give your songs a personality. That's what's missing.

And who says the 80's were bad? They had people singing dunk and drugged, the only person who does that nowadays is Amy Winehouse, and she can't do it properly.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxM841f08VA

Bring back the classic rock guys!


I'm pretty sure there also were people who didn't exactly kill themselves singing in the past, but most of us remember the bee's knees. I don't think there's anything wrong with today's music. Some recent bands have really been making my day, everyday since I first listened to them, like The Script (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTQsJ6ZaOQ), Cage The Elephant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27TRan1SBI), Selah Sue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6hwcJdkVE), Gorillaz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04mfKJWDSzI) or James Blunt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofSnsGkops). I really enjoy listening to pop music too, like P!nk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJfFZqTlWrQ) or Avril Lavigne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KagvExF-ijc). I just try to select what I listen to and make do with what I've picked. It's not like there's only Justin Bieber in the world, there are plenty of artists that are waiting for you to listen to their songs.

And when I feel it's not enough, I eventually fall back on older (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzrDeceEKc) songs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg) or indie music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMVNFIewcpc), which is for me, the best thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gwzK--mdJ0) since peanut butter.

I absolutely love James Blunt, again, he can play guitar, piano, ect. He has his own style and he composes his stuff. Which is what makes good music.

Sackgirlsrule
07-13-2011, 02:46 PM
First off, I was only talking about pop and it was MY OPINION not anyone Else's. What I listen to is mostly Christian music because of its soothing tone and quiet nature. I also listen to Weird Al, country, and some jazz.

You just said my words for me :p I love Christian Music! :D

Macnme
07-15-2011, 12:53 PM
Although, nothing ostracises you from your peers faster than "old music" ;

I've learned a thing or two about music in my time; I'm a music graduate.

And as I was studying, I was always interested to learn how the musicians that I liked to listen to were influenced by the musicians that came before them. SO I started working my way backwards through the musical timeline.

I'm currently plumbing the depths of 1920's blues - which, because I understand it's setting, the social/political backdrop of the music, and how it went on to influence subsequent generations, I find infiniately fascinating.
But I can't count the amount of time I've been banned from touching a stereo because they don't trust what I'm going to put on.... so it ends up some crappy, paint-by-numbers repetitive dance number.


*shudders*
Christian Music?!!?! Honestly?!
Give me some Satanic Death Metal any day ;)

OmegaSlayer
07-15-2011, 01:46 PM
I can listen to a song from Stryper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryper) then just a second after one from Marduk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marduk_(band)).
Being close minded with the universal message of music is stupid.
Doing it for religions or polithics is worse.

Blak99Psy
07-15-2011, 02:48 PM
As the promoted music gets worse, the disregarded music gets better. I feel that the underrated and underground artists put so much more effort into their music because they know they'll have a more loyal audience at the end of the day and have a steady, more dependable source of income instead of skimming the top while you're hot and trying to snatch as much money as possible before your inevitable fall and disappearance from the public memory after a few months. The slow path has flaws, but the logic is sound.

I stopped listening to Pop and Rap about 6 or 7 years ago because after that, there weren't even any good riffable/narmy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/Narm?from=Main.Narm) songs anymore. Those genres had become, and still are (IMO) boring.

I think sites in the vein of Pandora are the greatest thing to ever happen because they help you discover new music based on what you already like. Even if you think you know a genre inside and out, you'll find one more artist or song that'll catch your ear and beckon you to add that sweet sound to your collection. *huggles account* I listen to Indie, Electronic (IDM, specifically), Christian (Which is currently experiencing a strong shift closer to Indie, anyway), and Punk. I've got enough untapped resources to last me for ages, which I wouldn't have thought possible had it not been for sites like that.

Back to Pop, Disney cranks out music stars because guess what you can do with children's music? Make toys AND music. Seriously, they get money from every single type of merchandise in existence when they do this. Do you remember going into stores and seeing Miley Cyrus backpacks, candy, clothes, video games (yes, she had several), jewelry, coloring books, dolls, sunglasses, markers and crayons, and I'm pretty certain there was a brownie maker on the shelves at one point. The merchandising was over the top, but guess what? Kids bought that stuff. I have even seen little boys with Justin Beiber and Jonas Brothers shirts on, so it's not like Disney's only making money off of little girls. They're getting serious profit from pumping out singers. At the cost of some dignity, sure, but they were never really about that in the first place. If they deviate from it, they won't make anywhere near as much money as they are now.

I'm kind of surprised that Pop still has a stranglehold on the market. With the spread of the internet, you'd think people would find it easier to expand their horizons a bit, even by accident. Say what you want about iTunes, but that program 's built-in suggestion tool is what alerted me to the musicians below the surface. All I did was glance in the sidebar while I was clicking on one of my songs. That's all it takes. Some television shows and commercials now credit the songs they use in the lower corner of the screen. The phrase "Today's music" no longer has to be synonymous with "Pop and Rap" since so many tools to help discover new music are on the rise, yet here we stand.

I know I used to enjoy one internet music reviewer's show in which he used to tear apart poor pop songs and make valid points on how the artists should improve, but recently, he's devolved into trying to draw people back into listening to the tripe within the genre, even going so far as to attack Indie and acoustic guitar and say that music can't be good if it's mellow and peaceful (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/tis/tpsr/31485-ep-22-qthe-lazy-songq). He's lost my respect, especially for drawing people into a closed-minded attitude about music and trying to defend and proliferate an industry that doesn't need any defending or growth within its current trend and style.

Tecnoguy1
07-15-2011, 03:24 PM
Chief irritation for me is those song with no backing track at all and get away with some beeps and repetitive drum sections.

piggabling
07-15-2011, 08:25 PM
My suggestion: Find an artist you like, go to Pandora, make a station, and listen. It'll do wonders. Sure, Pandora will give you some songs that you'll think are utter crap, but that's why you have skips and why you're able to create multiple stations.

Now, today's music trends are not pleasing to the ears of many, myself included. Although, deep within the dark realm of modern music, one will find great music. Often, one will not even have to dig that deep. There's plenty of great, somewhat-mainstream artists that are just a joy to listen too. My favorite artists -- given that this is my opinion and the genre of music I enjoy -- include the likes of Jason Mraz, Eric Hutchinson, Jack Johnson, James Blunt, Boyce Avenue, Joshua Radin, Josh Turner, etc.

Different music appeals to different people. You just have to find the music that pleases you and tune out the stuff you here everywhere else.

fighterwindplus
07-16-2011, 06:06 AM
For the most part I like all types of muisc, but the one i absolutley can't stand is country!! >:O
But other than that Techno, pop, R&B, Rock, Christian, Hard Rock, Rap and others. I will say this the old music is just as good as it is now, it might be a little bit better, but thats just my opinion.

And as for Disney, I think Demi Lovato is very talented, selena gomez and other disney girls wont' last long....(technicly, demi already left disney but whatever)

theonlybub
07-18-2011, 05:12 AM
Lol. I was listening to a talk show that usually just talks politics, but last night there was a woman talking about the top ten songs.
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...
...
AND BOY DOES SHE SPEAK THE TRUTH!!!

She talked about the band L.M.F.A.O. (What kind of a name is that?) Why does music HAVE to have profanity?! Its like profanity is what makes most pop songs famous now.
She said that we live in the "Raunchy Era". That is so true. All the music STARS and pop music have to compete against each other and by doing that each music "artist" has to out sleaze the other. It is so stupid to think that "popular" music "artists" have to do that.

(They do that with crotch grabbing, small tight clothing, and outrageously vulgar music.) I think music should be what comes from your heart, not what comes from your hormones. XD

Tecnoguy1
07-18-2011, 07:44 AM
That's why I like the old songs.

Their lyrics are nothing about 'sex'.

James Blunt is about the only artist who ever sings about love today without mentioning 'sex'. :p

If you look back years ago, songs about outrageous themes like "I'm to sexy for my shirt" were hilarious and actually made people laugh. Now, that's all that musicianship seems to be about.

I think artists are singing about it though because they're trying to fill that empty void of real emotion in their lives with some attention-seeking ****.

Macnme
07-19-2011, 02:14 PM
Music isn't about what you look like - that should go without saying;

It's a general rule - the uglier the musician, the better their music.

That's why the charts are so full of pretty faces ;)

zzmorg82
07-19-2011, 02:21 PM
If you ask me, I like rap music!!!

abyssalassassin
07-19-2011, 09:22 PM
You just said my words for me :p I love Christian Music! :D

As an atheist I really don't know what to make of that. But I really suggest that you listen to The Script, they're the only christian themed band I can take, their music is amazing. Search 'em up on YouTube or somethin;. :) If you can't be bothered... ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sHR61lfg00

theonlybub
07-20-2011, 04:57 AM
I am very sure that they are not a Christian group because they have profanity in their biography, and they have played in U2 concerts. Christian bands only play with other Christian bands.

If their music really was giving glory to God, you probably would not listen to it :p

(I hope this doesn't cause a argument....:/)

Mr_T-Shirt
07-20-2011, 07:58 AM
I think there was already a topic about this.

Yup. (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?56292-Your-thoughts-on-music-today)

Godzilla
07-20-2011, 01:20 PM
I can't stand any of today's music..... I prefer my underground rock and musical scores.

Some of my Favorite Bands are:
The Stone Roses
Dream Theater
REM
Blue Oyster Cult
Queen
Led Zepplin
Sonic Youth
Public Image Ltd

Some of my Favorite Music Composer Are:
Akira Ifukube (composer of quite a few Godzilla movies, and definitely my all time favorite composer)
Michiru Oshima
Koh Ohtani
Koichi Sugiyama
Nobuo Uematsu


I would definitely check out some of Akira Ifukube-san's scores, they are really good. :)

Rhys125
07-20-2011, 04:04 PM
What I listen to is mostly Christian music because of its soothing tone and quiet nature.

Music doesn't have to be Christian to have a "soothing tone and quiet nature". You're missing out on some of the greatest singer/songwriters of all time by sticking to mostly Christian music.

Give these a listen. Don't worry; there's no profanity. ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXLWH2IAEN0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJDI7a_1lk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8hjEYTpwE8

...and a band from today:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGxaRpN5Eb4

StaticLinuxpro
07-20-2011, 04:14 PM
I like instrumental music, lyrics add too much noise. I like to just hear how the instruments sound together. I like most Daniel Pemberton music, the guy that made most of the LBP1 music

Macnme
07-20-2011, 04:17 PM
Even "Heavy Metal" has it's occasional quite moment ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW3pZjmS3rg

Rhys125
07-20-2011, 04:31 PM
Even "Heavy Metal" has it's occasional quite moment ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW3pZjmS3rg

I see your Planet Caravan, and I raise you Laguna Sunrise:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psm13jUwULo

Destroyer5563
07-20-2011, 11:08 PM
I have come to notice that almost every big star on Disney HAS to be a singer. It is so ridiculous. Most of them don't even have any singing ability. They use computers and lip syncing to get famous.

And then theres all the pop and rap music.... Don't even get me started. I tried listening to the new music that has been coming out, but I just can't take it. If you can't tell that they are using computers to fix up their voice, you must be crazy. I just can't see why people like Justin Beiber as well. I looked at one of concert videos, and he lip syncs.

I listen to the 80's music, because that was when good music was made. My dad loves that music still, and can't stand the music either. My brothers watch those stupid disney music show things and I can't stand them. They are so stupid and make no sense. It is as if all shows NEED to have relationships now too.

I wish I lived in a time where more things made sense....

Preach it, bro.

littlebigfan1245
07-21-2011, 04:15 AM
I have come to notice that almost every big star on Disney HAS to be a singer. It is so ridiculous. Most of them don't even have any singing ability. They use computers and lip syncing to get famous.

And then theres all the pop and rap music.... Don't even get me started. I tried listening to the new music that has been coming out, but I just can't take it. If you can't tell that they are using computers to fix up their voice, you must be crazy. I just can't see why people like Justin Beiber as well. I looked at one of concert videos, and he lip syncs.

I listen to the 80's music, because that was when good music was made. My dad loves that music still, and can't stand the music either. My brothers watch those stupid disney music show things and I can't stand them. They are so stupid and make no sense. It is as if all shows NEED to have relationships now too.

I wish I lived in a time where more things made sense....

Yeah, pop & rap are just ridiculous.

Voodeedoo
07-21-2011, 11:03 PM
Modern mainstream/popular/well-known music sucks, but in a way it always has. It"s just more noticable now after it really went downhill. Basically everything needs to be marketed to 13 year old girls for it to become successful.

But on the other hand, in the more hidden part of the music industry where music isn"t being made just to sell, there"s a musical renaissance going on. Creativity is flourishing and boundaries are being pushed farther than ever before. To find it involves knowing where to look and actually putting effort into it which isn"t something the common person would do.
Call me a hipster or whatever, but the underground is where it"s at. Examples are in the spoiler.
Gonjasufi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t86wVuz8sBE)
Ulrich (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvudl35im48)
FlyLo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ89dxhD-Zc&feature=related)
Amon Tobin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jaRA6nGyUg)
Washed Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-0TYeg9Rzc)
Lusine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUEX7yUo_w8)
Deru (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdrmlfS4HWE)
BoC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFNq9bxm_-Q)


FYI, when you being looking into good music never expect it to end anytime soon. The underground scene is massive and you can spend your whole life discovering new art. The ones I posted above are minor examples.

Macnme
07-23-2011, 04:27 PM
I see your Planet Caravan, and I raise you Laguna Sunrise:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psm13jUwULo

I'll see your Laguna Sunrise - and raise you Fluff ;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA4WQTTq3X0

TheMonkeyBlade
07-23-2011, 04:43 PM
It seems that all the new hip hop and rap songs are basically about the same thing, and that's why people can't stand it, but music like rock and metal have good meanings.

Maxi
07-23-2011, 05:19 PM
Eh, all a matter of preference.
But, I do enjoy older music in general. When I say older, I don't necessarily mean wearing a powdered wig while taking a horse and buggy ride through Austria.
There is still very good music today however,
The problem is when people think of "Today's" music they think of that mainstream trash. There's other songs, you just need to find them.

pokemainiac
07-27-2011, 09:28 AM
I don't like modern music. Too many raps and too many love songs.

Vector-Espio-Fan
08-11-2011, 10:07 AM
What I listen to is mostly Christian music because of its soothing tone and quiet nature.

Isn't that a bit of a stereotype on Christian music? I mean, this is Christian music too;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqr8q7RheXg

Soothed I ain't.



My main genre of listening is Rock, although I'm up for almost anything else except Disney pop, Dance and Clubbing music.

Needless to say, I have precisely zero interest in modern mainstream music.

Kiminski
08-11-2011, 01:52 PM
I'll see your Laguna Sunrise - and raise you Fluff ;

Rarr!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuqVogBiYSU

..and yes, today's music is mostly balls.

Bendi
08-20-2011, 01:53 PM
Guys... Seriously. Stop generalizing evry genre of music from one era as bad or another as good. As some people have stated popular music is created in simple basic structures and chord progressions. And the songs are made for the general public, pop now is often just made for background noise at clubs and parties, i don't think i know anyone who acctually listens to it as you would with intellectual music. There were lots of great artists from all the prieviously listed eras, but unfortunately also quite terrible ones as well. Beleive it or not people still make good music, you just have to look for it in the right places. As for what i listen to, i mostly like foo fighters, arctic monkeys, dream theater, the beatles, dire straits and really anything from rock to metal and a little rap. If you want to challenge your musical mind try listening to "the dance of eternity" by dream theater. Also you should check out this guy, hes probably the best underground musician i know of: http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=ApdKNnItxqI

poorjack
08-20-2011, 08:01 PM
Run Toto Run... Look them up if you can.

VenemoX
08-20-2011, 08:14 PM
My favorite songs of all time in no particular order:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm72DPJCX58


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5mjntMAfbU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH0gnwtSEGI

Ironically, all the singers of these bands are dead.

On topic however. This is the type of music I like, and frankly I can't find ANY band today with a somewhat similar sound that I like. I'm stuck in the 90's and I'll stay there until something new and fresh pops up. Until then, I'll stay in my flannel.