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Sakboy
08-12-2008, 10:07 PM
Hey Im not sure if this is the right place to put it

But I was wondering what the little LBP items under someones name

that relate to if you are Sackboy a peice of lint, or a patch of cloth.

What does that mean and how do you get more :confused:

DrunkMiffy
08-12-2008, 10:36 PM
Never really noticed any connection, although there probably is.

They increase by posts :) More posts, the better name, the more pictures :)

Maltay
08-12-2008, 10:37 PM
Never really noticed any connection, although there probably is.

They increase by posts :) More posts, the better name, the more pictures :)

Theres no connection between images and name... Now drop and give me 20, private!

Wait... I'm the private :P

p.s. you'll get your first image at 10 posts. Its a sponge

ConfusedCartman
08-12-2008, 11:20 PM
Actually, yes. It is directly related to post count. There is a vBulletin mod titled vBExperience that uses a mathematical algorithm to determine someone's rank(it takes pretty much everything into account, including usefulness of their posts) to determine someone's rank around here. Now, if we want a ranking system, that one is more accurate and doesn't encourage mass posting to get your rank up. It could turn out to be pretty useful. It's just a suggestion, though, so let me know if you guys disagree with it.

Maltay
08-12-2008, 11:31 PM
I'm up for giving it a try! <-

Example of a useless post that probably wont help the real rank. Am I right? :P

DrunkMiffy
08-12-2008, 11:32 PM
Actually, yes. It is directly related to post count. There is a vBulletin mod titled vBExperience that uses a mathematical algorithm to determine someone's rank(it takes pretty much everything into account, including usefulness of their posts) to determine someone's rank around here. Now, if we want a ranking system, that one is more accurate and doesn't encourage mass posting to get your rank up. It could turn out to be pretty useful. It's just a suggestion, though, so let me know if you guys disagree with it.

Like a rep system? You can positively or negatively rep someone's post, and give a comment to go along with it?

I was thinking about that earlier tbh.

EDIT: Tried finding what I was on about..Couldnt :(

ConfusedCartman
08-13-2008, 02:24 AM
Also, vbExperience has a store! When you are active, you accumulate points based on how good of a member you are, and from there you can use those points to "purchase" different things from the store! We could have custom avatars, wallpapers, even level packs. That would be cool, in my opinion.

Marino
08-13-2008, 02:56 AM
Please? :rolleyes:

ConfusedCartman
08-13-2008, 02:58 AM
Please? :rolleyes:
lbp is considering, it, I promise. I've talked to him about this and he is the one who pointed out the store to me.

Reshin
08-13-2008, 03:06 AM
one thing... does it cost anything? I'm all for the feature, but we shoudn't bug lbp to waste more of his money when he has already staked a lot for the contest

ConfusedCartman
08-13-2008, 03:08 AM
one thing... does it cost anything? I'm all for the feature, but we shoudn't bug lbp to waste more of his money when he has already staked a lot for the contest
Not a cent; it's completely free. If you'd like to read up on it, here's the official thread (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=171014).

Maltay
08-13-2008, 09:28 AM
Not a cent; it's completely free. If you'd like to read up on it, here's the official thread (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=171014).

Is it retroactive? :)

ConfusedCartman
08-13-2008, 01:28 PM
Is it retroactive? :)
Yes, there is a feature which allows you to force the mod to "recount" all of the existing data to date, which, when done upon installation, would make it retroactive.

Maltay
08-13-2008, 01:30 PM
Yes, there is a feature which allows you to force the mod to "recount" all of the existing data to date, which, when done upon installation, would make it retroactive.


Well thats good news. I vote for a trial.

ConfusedCartman
08-13-2008, 01:42 PM
Well thats good news. I vote for a trial.
lbp is interested, as well. I think we could use the store to sell level packs, exclusive wallpapers, even features. You can sell someone the ability to have a larger avatar, or even the ability to edit their custom title. There's tons of options.

DrunkMiffy
08-13-2008, 01:46 PM
lbp is interested, as well. I think we could use the store to sell level packs, exclusive wallpapers, even features. You can sell someone the ability to have a larger avatar, or even the ability to edit their custom title. There's tons of options.

Yeah, that's probably what I'm on about. I've been on forums where you can get VIP Status, which means your name changes colour so you stand out, you can change your user title, and other stuff, which doesn't work on rhis forum yet because it doesn't have those features :)

ConfusedCartman
08-13-2008, 01:49 PM
Yeah, that's probably what I'm on about. I've been on forums where you can get VIP Status, which means your name changes colour so you stand out, you can change your user title, and other stuff, which doesn't work on rhis forum yet because it doesn't have those features :)
There are rewards, too. When you reach a certain predetermined rank, you can be rewarded with certain things instead of having to buy them. Also, there are built-in awards that you can win, that are just little icons in your postbit. That way people know you are an especially helpful poster, or you like to edit your own posts instead of double-posting. That kind of thing.

DrunkMiffy
08-13-2008, 01:51 PM
There are rewards, too. When you reach a certain predetermined rank, you can be rewarded with certain things instead of having to buy them. Also, there are built-in awards that you can win, that are just little icons in your postbit. That way people know you are an especially helpful poster, or you like to edit your own posts instead of double-posting. That kind of thing.

Ahhh I see, I haven't seen that before...Sounds good though.

Maltay
08-13-2008, 01:52 PM
There are rewards, too. When you reach a certain predetermined rank, you can be rewarded with certain things instead of having to buy them. Also, there are built-in awards that you can win, that are just little icons in your postbit. That way people know you are an especially helpful poster, or you like to edit your own posts instead of double-posting. That kind of thing.

Them little icons sound like trophies!! I want them all :Oooooo!

This sounds pretty awesome, but make sure it stays balanced, like everybody could have a custom title really quickly but we don't want that. Keep it for the best. I don't fully understand it as of yet though so I'll wait until we start the trial to give my feedback

ConfusedCartman
08-13-2008, 02:09 PM
Them little icons sound like trophies!! I want them all :Oooooo!

This sounds pretty awesome, but make sure it stays balanced, like everybody could have a custom title really quickly but we don't want that. Keep it for the best. I don't fully understand it as of yet though so I'll wait until we start the trial to give my feedback
Oh, don't worry about that. If lbp adds it, we'll make sure everything works out the way it should. In my opinion, everything should be set at default until we see how quickly people climb up the metaphorical ladder, so we can guess at where we should be rewarding people and what we should be charging in the store.

Maltay
08-13-2008, 09:01 PM
When will we start to see this?

ConfusedCartman
08-13-2008, 09:12 PM
When will we start to see this?
In a day or two, tops. lbp wants to ensure there are enough items for the shop before it goes live.

Maltay
08-13-2008, 09:37 PM
In a day or two, tops. lbp wants to ensure there are enough items for the shop before it goes live.

Oh, sweet, I'm very looking forward to it. Looked through the thread, and saw the optional ones that you mentioned. Are you guys including the one where you get minus points for reviving old threads or not?

Also, I think it will help get the threads rated alot and have tags on every thread and the forum wil be alot more searchable and user-friendly. This is nice!

EDIT: And theres a rep system that comes with this right? (like thumb up/down users posts)

ConfusedCartman
08-13-2008, 09:38 PM
Oh, sweet, I'm very looking forward to it. Looked through the thread, and saw the optional ones that you mentioned. Are you guys including the one where you get minus points for reviving old threads or not?

Also, I think it will help get the threads rated alot and have tags on every thread and the forum wil be alot more searchable and user-friendly. This is nice!

EDIT: And theres a rep system that comes with this right? (like thumb up/down users posts)
Yes, there is:



- Reputation / Use of reputation system

lbp
08-13-2008, 10:41 PM
Yeah hey guys. I'm looking into all of this. I don't want to put it up quickly, and then have to take it down because I rushed things. (although that still might happen. LOL) I'm not sure how all of this is going to work out, but it looks really cool. We'll have leveling up for users that will allow you to say have more PM space, more options and freedom, and stuff like that. But there is SO much that can be done with this that I don't know for sure how it's going to all turn out. I'd love to replace though the rank image below the avatars in posts with stuff that YOU want, and the stuff that YOU choose to buy.

Just a heads up that there will probably be some growing pains with this software. A lot of tweaking, rankings changing, and so on until we feel happy with the balance and quality of things. :rolleyes:

LBP

ConfusedCartman
08-14-2008, 02:59 AM
Yeah hey guys. I'm looking into all of this. I don't want to put it up quickly, and then have to take it down because I rushed things. (although that still might happen. LOL) I'm not sure how all of this is going to work out, but it looks really cool. We'll have leveling up for users that will allow you to say have more PM space, more options and freedom, and stuff like that. But there is SO much that can be done with this that I don't know for sure how it's going to all turn out. I'd love to replace though the rank image below the avatars in posts with stuff that YOU want, and the stuff that YOU choose to buy.

Just a heads up that there will probably be some growing pains with this software. A lot of tweaking, rankings changing, and so on until we feel happy with the balance and quality of things. :rolleyes:

LBP

Sounds good. Thanks for working on this; I'm excited. Could we possibly make a thread asking people what they would like to buy, so we get an idea of what everyone wants us to add to the shop? We don't have to add everything, but we may get some ideas we hadn't thought of.

Emble
08-14-2008, 10:25 AM
It sound like fun
A great idea if u ask me :p
Im on lots of other forums,
And there are always spammers 2 get a higher rank.
Maybe this will stop that :)

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 11:54 AM
Sounds good. Thanks for working on this; I'm excited. Could we possibly make a thread asking people what they would like to buy, so we get an idea of what everyone wants us to add to the shop? We don't have to add everything, but we may get some ideas we hadn't thought of.

What types of things could we buy? If you mean like privileges forum-wise, Custom User Titles are nice, bigger avatar / sig memory space :)?

Maltay
08-14-2008, 02:29 PM
What types of things could we buy? If you mean like privileges forum-wise, Custom User Titles are nice, bigger avatar / sig memory space :)?

Yeah theyre all exapmles.

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 07:02 PM
Ooohh New bars? I am intrigued!

Maltay
08-14-2008, 07:05 PM
Ooohh New bars? I am intrigued!

And *poof* Theyre gone. LOL

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 07:10 PM
Oh noes. They didn't even tell us what they were for! ( I bet it was rep, but I saw no rep post option!)

Marino
08-14-2008, 07:15 PM
They are back!

What are they for anyways? :confused:

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 07:16 PM
LBP's a fiddlin'!

ConfusedCartman
08-14-2008, 07:21 PM
LBP's a fiddlin'!
My guess is he's trying to add it to the forums without it displaying just yet. There's probably a lot of tweaking to be done before it's ready.

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 07:30 PM
Fair enough, I have faith :D

ConfusedCartman
08-14-2008, 07:57 PM
Fair enough, I have faith :D
Yeah, it's here so you can get an idea of what it looks like. There's definitely going to be growing pains, but we have it for now.

Maltay is the highest ranking member on the whole board!

Marino
08-14-2008, 07:59 PM
Maltay is crushing us all! :rolleyes:

Darkelite105
08-14-2008, 08:04 PM
interesting a guy with 1 post and 0 threads as like 300 more points the me

Edit: the green bar is activity

ConfusedCartman
08-14-2008, 08:04 PM
After lbp eats lunch, he's going to remove the rank images(our old ones) and move the avatars above the vBExperience bars. From there he is just going to see how people level up, lose levels, and how thing shift. Once he knows a bit more about how it works, he'll start setting up the shop and tweaking things to improve everything.

Marino
08-14-2008, 08:06 PM
Yay, Progress!

Thanks lbp. :)

EDIT: How could I forget Cartman? :(

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 08:13 PM
Haha, me likey! I'm almost levelled up aswell :D

Nice work LBP :) (and Cartman!)

ConfusedCartman
08-14-2008, 08:17 PM
By the way, guys, the system isn't perfect yet, so there are going to be some wonky settings. For one, points are given for how long you've been a member, which I disagree with(that's why, Darkelite105, that one member has more points than you) and will talk to lbp about disabling. Anyway, here's the criteria that is taken into account when a user's score is calculated:

Thread Points
- Created threads
- Thread views of own threads
- Thread replies of own threads
- Thread votes of own threads
- Thread tags (vBulletin 3.7)
- Replies to own threads
- Sticky threads

Post Points
- Created posts
- Views on attachments

User Points
- Days since registration
- Referrals
- Received infractions
- Reputation / Use of reputation system
- Visitor messages on profiles (vBulletin 3.7)
- Members of own social groups (vBulletin 3.7)
- Albumpictures (vBulletin 3.7)
- Friends (vBulletin 3.7)

Now, all of these settings can be edited and/or disabled, so we completely disable points for how long you've been a member. For example, if we value thread creation higher than replies, we can give two points for every thread and one for every reply. Now, I think it would be best to keep that information a secret so users don't abuse it, so we probably won't be too specific.

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 08:19 PM
By the way, guys, the system isn't perfect yet, so there are going to be some wonky settings. For one, points are given for how long you've been a member, which I disagree with(that's why, Darkelite105, that one member has more points than you) and will talk to lbp about disabling. Anyway, here's the criteria that is taken into account when a user's score is calculated:

Thread Points
- Created threads
- Thread views of own threads
- Thread replies of own threads
- Thread votes of own threads
- Thread tags (vBulletin 3.7)
- Replies to own threads
- Sticky threads

Post Points
- Created posts
- Views on attachments

User Points
- Days since registration
- Referrals
- Received infractions
- Reputation / Use of reputation system
- Visitor messages on profiles (vBulletin 3.7)
- Members of own social groups (vBulletin 3.7)
- Albumpictures (vBulletin 3.7)
- Friends (vBulletin 3.7)


I love rep systems, is this coming??

Maltay
08-14-2008, 08:25 PM
I love rep systems, is this coming??

Yep should be, and Cartman, I would leave the length of time since registered On, I maen, reshins been loyal since day 1, shouldn't he got more points for that?

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 08:27 PM
Yep should be, and Cartman, I would leave the length of time since registered On, I maen, reshins been loyal since day 1, shouldn't he got more points for that?

Agreed, especially as it's a forum with a theme, not just a general forum if you get me.. He's been dedicated to this site, so I think he deserves more?

ConfusedCartman
08-14-2008, 09:21 PM
Yep should be, and Cartman, I would leave the length of time since registered On, I maen, reshins been loyal since day 1, shouldn't he got more points for that?
Not if he's inactive the whole time. I know he is active, but there are plenty of other inactive members who have been around a while, and they have plenty more points than they deserve. It doesn't really do much for the site if a member is just here; he's got to contribute, and that's where this mod comes in.

If there's a way to give points for the amount of time a member has been considered "active", then I'd go with that.

Also, I've heard of a rep system, but so far I haven't really seen it in action(here or anywhere else). I'll see what's going on.

Maltay
08-14-2008, 09:24 PM
Not if he's inactive the whole time. I know he is active, but there are plenty of other inactive members who have been around a while, and they have plenty more points than they deserve. It doesn't really do much for the site if a member is just here; he's got to contribute, and that's where this mod comes in.

If there's a way to give points for the amount of time a member has been considered "active", then I'd go with that.

Also, I've heard of a rep system, but so far I haven't really seen it in action(here or anywhere else). I'll see what's going on.

Yeah it is a little confusing. Can't we just remove the 0% active people from the list?

ConfusedCartman
08-14-2008, 09:30 PM
Yeah it is a little confusing. Can't we just remove the 0% active people from the list?
lbp has removed points for being here longer and for just posting, so that both post count and length of membership are no longer taken into account. I'm not sure what exactly is taken into account, but that may be better, to prevent people from abusing the system.

He's also tweaking a whole lot, so it may disappear and reappear from time to time until all of the kinks are worked out.

EDIT: Yes, he has implemented those changes, and Reshin is still the fourth highest member(3rd, 3nd, and 1st is me, lbp, and Maltay respectively), so I think removing that setting didn't really hurt Reshin in any way. If anything, Maltay was hurt the most because just posting is no longer important.

Here's the list of people. (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/xperience.php)

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 09:49 PM
LOL> It says Maltay's a hyperactive geek xD

Marino
08-14-2008, 09:55 PM
lbp, is a chatterbox on the priority list? I know you're busy, I was just wondering if you have considered one. :)

Maltay
08-14-2008, 10:16 PM
LOL> It says Maltay's a hyperactive geek xD

I saw that... Don't listen to it :mad:

I'm always pretty sleepy, not hyperactive. xD

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 10:19 PM
Loooooooool, 'cause you post twice as much as everyone elseee :O

Maltay
08-14-2008, 10:21 PM
Loooooooool, 'cause you post twice as much as everyone elseee :O

You can talk. youve been a member a week and you've got half my posts, ive been a member more then 2 months xP

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 10:26 PM
'Cause I think too much! and then I need to get it off my head!

Darkelite105
08-14-2008, 10:28 PM
(that's why, Darkelite105, that one member has more points than you)

I hope i was just being used for a example :eek:

Code1337
08-14-2008, 10:29 PM
I will catch up to you all in these points... when my computer gets repaired. (tommorow) Why do I only have 8% activity?

Maltay
08-14-2008, 10:31 PM
I will catch up to you all in these points... when my computer gets repaired. (tommorow) Why do I only have 8% activity?

No Idea, but my guess is that activity can go up aswell as down, and since your a new member yours isn't that high yet.

Code1337
08-14-2008, 10:34 PM
No Idea, but my guess is that activity can go up aswell as down, and since your a new member yours isn't that high yet.
Strange, but I guess it will go up if I stay active. /which I most likely will

ConfusedCartman
08-15-2008, 02:44 AM
Strange, but I guess it will go up if I stay active. /which I most likely will
Yeah, it will go up with time. Just be here every day and soon you'll be at 100% like me. :)

I think it's better without the bars next to our avatars, actually. Hopefully he'll get rid of the rank images and open up the shop.

OverWork
08-15-2008, 03:15 AM
I like the idea, but horribly confused on how this all works:confused:

ConfusedCartman
08-15-2008, 03:20 AM
I like the idea, but horribly confused on how this all works:confused:
I'll run it down for you:

As you are active on the forums, this system calculates your worth, essentially. Depending on how useful a member you are, you are awarded points. You can then use those points to purchase items at a store our site will have in the near future, such as more PM space or a larger avatar. Maybe even exclusive wallpapers, avatars, and even LittleBigPlanet level packs(I'll figure that one out in the future).

Noonian
08-15-2008, 03:38 AM
I honestly have no idea whether I should be happy about where I am on that list or not...lol...:cool:

Ah well...Guess I will look forward to LBPC swag...:)

OverWork
08-15-2008, 03:43 AM
lol thanks CC...have to dumb it down for me sometimes.:p