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Gondito
08-14-2008, 01:50 AM
I have an idea for holdable hand guns that could be used in a dueling map of some sort. Of course you would make it on a large scale and then scale it down, i know its possible to scale down complex machinery because ive seen it done in videos. the question is.... how small can it get? if you can get it small enough too fit in a sackboys hand your could control his arms and try to fire at targets or other sackpeople. og course there would be no waty to choose when to fire so it would just fire maybe every 4 or 5 seconds, or every second for a machine gun effect!! you could have electric bullets or fire bullets or icey bullets too. the possibilities are endless...

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa207/seanrocks512/zzgunidea.png

thats the best i can do in 5 minutes EDIT due to feedback i would like to say grapple guns would be even better!!! and i have an idea of how it would work

Code1337
08-14-2008, 01:56 AM
If handguns are included in the game, I think that they would be for decoration and not much else. :/

Marino
08-14-2008, 01:56 AM
Haha, I hope it will work. However, Maltay has told me that attaching machines to Sackpeople will not work.

There is probably a better way of shooting then having it shoot automatically.. we just have to figure it out. Maybe it fires when you make a certain motion with your arms?

Gondito
08-14-2008, 02:04 AM
If handguns are included in the game, I think that they would be for decoration and not much else. :/

no i mean design it not just pick from a list.

and i hope they do include equippable machines, if only allowed in some levels that will work fine

oh and i dont mean you can attach it to your character for customization, i mean like u find it in the level and pick it up

PlanetBigLittle FAN
08-14-2008, 02:08 AM
very nice i would like a handgun

big93
08-14-2008, 03:08 AM
i completely dislike the idea.... ok, cute foam swords and wooden swords are one thing... but hand guns? that's too far, were not making gta... were amking a cute game... wooden and foam swords are cute, guns just take it away from cute, people's reaction will be like "oh how cute, a wooden sword... WTF? is that a gun?"

even as a play toy it wouldn't be that funny or appropriate for the crowd it's being aimed at. maybe some kind of little toy launcher would be funny, like a teddy bear launcher would be funny...

the world need a successful game without murder or guns... lbp is as close to it as well get

Marino
08-14-2008, 03:10 AM
Yeah, I agree, it sort of takes the innocence away from the Sackpeople.

However, I still think it is a valid question to ask if projectile type 'weapons' would work... :o

Gondito
08-14-2008, 03:30 AM
i completely dislike the idea.... ok, cute foam swords and wooden swords are one thing... but hand guns? that's too far, were not making gta... were amking a cute game... wooden and foam swords are cute, guns just take it away from cute, people's reaction will be like "oh how cute, a wooden sword... WTF? is that a gun?"

even as a play toy it wouldn't be that funny or appropriate for the crowd it's being aimed at. maybe some kind of little toy launcher would be funny, like a teddy bear launcher would be funny...

the world need a successful game without murder or guns... lbp is as close to it as well get

well the thing is the picture of the gun was just a representation, i dont in the least want to make the game like gta. i would just like to know if this kind of thing is possible, oh and an even BETTER idea, a grapple gun, for swinging!!!

Marino
08-14-2008, 03:37 AM
A grappling gun you say?? :kz:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/link/link_070820e-l.jpg

To get on topic, if they are possible, I HAVE to make some S.C.A.L.E hookshots & clawshots. :rolleyes:

A level like this would be amazing:
http://www.andkon.com/arcade/obstacles/hookshot/

Thee-Flash
08-14-2008, 04:21 AM
good idea but sounds very hard

SuperYuper
08-14-2008, 05:06 AM
It would be fun to put guns in the game but the game would change a whole bunch. I doubt you could attach to your hand too.

Stix489
08-14-2008, 06:17 AM
Well, if it's possible to build a working gun in Phun, then there is no doubt it's possible in LBP!

Dunno about equipping it though :/

Cartoonguy
08-14-2008, 06:21 AM
This is a rated E game i am pretty sure so if sony see any gun i am almost certain they will either close the level it was in or remove it off the character unless it was a toy gun that had a like cork on it real cartoony or grappling hook like i read in previous responses. but it seems you can only make machines to achieve things like shooting but not make items the sackboys can use or pick up maybe they can drag a gun but what fun would that be.

muttjones
08-14-2008, 06:34 AM
even as a play toy it wouldn't be that funny or appropriate for the crowd it's being aimed at.

its being aimed at everybody. and its still kiddy violence anyway because if it shoots ice then the person freezes they dont have their brains painted on the wall! (sorry a bit gruesome:p)

Yarbone
08-14-2008, 06:51 AM
I know its possible to make a gun, but you won't able to attach it and you only will able to grab the gun and swing it around. And the gun would have to be made out of sponge and soft stuff like that because that's probably materials you can grab on to.

And a grappling gun would fit this game perfectly! :)

Dropbear
08-14-2008, 08:44 AM
I think we'll have to stick to mounted guns that actually work and hand guns as props.

Darkelite105
08-14-2008, 02:42 PM
ill stick to tanks :D

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 02:54 PM
Why people want to keep introducing weapons to this game I'll never know..

1000101
08-14-2008, 03:14 PM
It's possible to make a gun from what I've seen but, you have to take into account that, no matter how small you scale it, it still has to take up an entire layer(at least), your sackperson would have to hold it with both hands as that's the grab mechanic at work AND because of that grab mechanic(the way it works), you wouldn't be able to aim the gun. Stationary guns/cannons will be the only way to have projectiles in the game.

Marino
08-14-2008, 03:16 PM
Or you can have a cannon on wheels that your sackperson can push & aim throughout the entire level shooting down planes & enemies. :kz:

DrunkMiffy
08-14-2008, 03:17 PM
It's possible to make a gun from what I've seen but, you have to take into account that, no matter how small you scale it, it still has to take up an entire layer(at least), your sackperson would have to hold it with both hands as that's the grab mechanic at work AND because of that grab mechanic(the way it works), you wouldn't be able to aim the gun. Stationary guns/cannons will be the only way to have projectiles in the game.

Nah, you could say stick it to his head if it were small enough, and it would fire automatically..

Why am I even helping this thread? I think any idea's like this will send LBP flying downhill..

Marino
08-14-2008, 03:18 PM
Guns don't kill Sackpeople. Sackpeople kill Sackpeople. :(

Darkelite105
08-14-2008, 03:38 PM
Nah, you could say stick it to his head if it were small enough, and it would fire automatically..

I dont think sticking it to his head will work, Maltay said you couldnt do stuff like that with Marino S.C.A.L.E idea

Marino
08-14-2008, 03:44 PM
Just because machines don't attach directly to Sackpeople (??) doesn't mean the S.C.A.L.E items won't work, it just means I will have to be more creative. :p

Darkelite105
08-14-2008, 03:46 PM
Just because machines don't attach directly to Sackpeople (??) doesn't mean the S.C.A.L.E items won't work, it just means I will have to be more creative. :p

I know you can prob get them to work :D i just ment attaching a gun to a sackboys head most likely will not work

LittleBigMidget
08-14-2008, 04:39 PM
What would be the point of having guns in LBP?

Gondito
08-14-2008, 04:45 PM
actually im pretty sure guns can kill sackppl. and the fact is we wont know equipable machines will be possible until... my gamestop gets an exclusive demo!!!yep thats right my gamestop is gettin a build of lbp to playand im goin!!!

LittleBigMidget
08-14-2008, 04:52 PM
actually im pretty sure guns can kill sackppl. and the fact is we wont know equipable machines will be possible until... my gamestop gets an exclusive demo!!!yep thats right my gamestop is gettin a build of lbp to playand im goin!!!

You could just give each sackboy a lit match and thats pretty much an insta kill. Having guns in this game defeats the whole attitude of the game. I'm pretty sure the game would be ruined. Why would a town like yours get that. I doubt your the only one. They probably mass produced that demo disk and it's probably at every gamestop.

Emble
08-14-2008, 05:01 PM
I don't think its smart to do guns in LBP
Because it's ( in my opinion ) not LBP style and if im playing the game i dont wanna be killet or even shot at just building stuff and play the levels.
But thats my opinion.

But a grapple-hook sound like alot of fun:p

1000101
08-14-2008, 05:51 PM
Guns don't kill Sackpeople. Sackpeople kill Sackpeople. :(

This quote is going in my sig. It's classic!
Thanks! :-p

Marino
08-14-2008, 06:12 PM
I'm honored! :p

Sackboy
08-14-2008, 06:40 PM
i completely dislike the idea.... ok, cute foam swords and wooden swords are one thing... but hand guns? that's too far, were not making gta... were amking a cute game... wooden and foam swords are cute, guns just take it away from cute, people's reaction will be like "oh how cute, a wooden sword... WTF? is that a gun?"

even as a play toy it wouldn't be that funny or appropriate for the crowd it's being aimed at. maybe some kind of little toy launcher would be funny, like a teddy bear launcher would be funny...

the world need a successful game without murder or guns... lbp is as close to it as well get

i totally agree

big93
08-14-2008, 09:07 PM
some kind of turret typed "gun" that is connected to the floor, and is controlled by a lever or a button that shoots mini sackboys, or teddy bears would be cute... but i think sony doesent want to touch guns or hard violence with a 60 foot stick...


and thanks to all who agreed with me...

marmiteman
08-14-2008, 09:15 PM
What about paintball guns.

It's still keeping with the rating as the sackboy gets covered in paint, it could be quite fun using paintballs.

Marino
08-14-2008, 09:22 PM
Is paint in the game??

If so, WOW! I'm going to have an art level. :)

marmiteman
08-14-2008, 09:27 PM
Is paint in the game??

If so, WOW! I'm going to have an art level. :)

I don't know if it is, I was just thinking of an idea how guns could work without changing the friendly fell of LBP.

Personally I fine without but if people wanted them in the paintball idea could work if the paint was there

ps3&me
08-28-2008, 10:46 PM
If this game is to childlike, people will be turned off as well. Guns would add a much needed gameplay element. Being able to slap is just not enough. :kz:

LittleBigChav
08-28-2008, 11:20 PM
I doubt this would work Sackboys can push and pull objects but they can't hold objects.

ChazFox
08-28-2008, 11:26 PM
I'd rather just stick to siege weaponry, catapults, cannons, trebuchets and suchlike. Have a 4-player game where the players split into teams of 2, each team building a castle and also building catapults and suchlike to destroy the enemy castle.

Cartoonguy
08-29-2008, 10:30 AM
Chaz Fox If someone creates a working forklift or crane for a LBP tower defense create your own tower game that would be so awesome.

GuyWithNoEyes
09-12-2008, 09:08 PM
THIS WILL NOT WORK.

There is no way to trigger it when you want to without motion sensors or something...

WAIT...

Put a ball in the gun, aswell as a motioon sensor, then whenever you move your arm up it shoots! YEAH!

muttjones
09-12-2008, 10:29 PM
I doubt this would work Sackboys can push and pull objects but they can't hold objects.

sackboys can grab stuff and hold on to it. you just press R1 on any grabbable material.

Tyler
09-12-2008, 10:40 PM
Yes, you can resize objects, but sensors and stuff will stay the same size.

DrunkMiffy
09-12-2008, 10:42 PM
I really hope this idea fails.

No offence or anything, I personally just think weapons & such will completely destroy a game like LBP.

Tyler
09-12-2008, 10:52 PM
I'm going to make a cannon with a wheel that rotates its direction, but handguns... won't work.

Killa_5150
09-12-2008, 11:04 PM
sackboys can grab stuff and hold on to it. you just press R1 on any grabbable material.

Yeah, that's a pretty cool thing to do:)
If something is heavy, then Sackboy needs a little help, i love it when he tries to move a heavy object by himself, he looks cute lol

Darkelite105
09-13-2008, 12:55 AM
im guna try and make a hand gun but not to shoot people but to be used as a grappling hook for climbing walls

12454522412412
09-13-2008, 01:00 AM
like i posted before... im ganna make a peice of cardboad and attach fire at the end so i can swing it around and burn people... or i will use gas and make it look cool... or use electricity and kill people...

Teh_Bucko
09-13-2008, 01:20 AM
I don't see why you all want to turn this game into SackTheftAuto.

Tyler
09-13-2008, 01:36 AM
like i posted before... im ganna make a peice of cardboad and attach fire at the end so i can swing it around and burn people... or i will use gas and make it look cool... or use electricity and kill people...
Yeah, a ball-and-chain weapon would be hilarious.

Darkelite105
09-13-2008, 01:40 AM
I don't see why you all want to turn this game into SackTheftAuto.

whats wrong with a grappling hook?

THE-FAT
09-14-2008, 07:13 PM
Weaponry would be cool. Like shooting flamming bullets so people would actually "die".

BobMarley
09-14-2008, 07:20 PM
A Bow&Arrow would seem more appropriate, and i rather find a way to get on top of things than using a grappling gun.