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08-15-2012, 12:24 AM
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08-15-2012, 12:46 AM
All I can say is that anyone with any sense would refuse all join requests coming from "divers", so the people you have been meeting online represent the section of the community who have no sense at all.

08-15-2012, 01:20 AM
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08-15-2012, 01:24 AM
Isn't this a topic for "Everything Else LBP2"? I mean, this is the off-topic forum, and that is not an off-topic thread.

Aside to that, I don't do dive in anymore. They are full of immature people. I wish I can dive in with people like Steve_Big_Guns or PPp_Killer. Now I am friends with some kids. Even if they aren't mature enough, I respect them.

08-15-2012, 01:46 AM
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08-15-2012, 07:30 AM
8/10 times, the average age was under 14.

Kids in playing kid friendly game shocker.

7/10 times, people were often unsettled by complex vocabulary. (I intentionally used it to test them, no instigation)

Maybe because of the perviously mentioned under 14 majority they simply havn't encountered certain words yet or English isn't their native language.

4/10 times, I was often bombarded with yelling and obscenities. (Mostly whenever I did absolutely nothing)
9/10 times, one individual (or all) attempted to instigate with dis-respect/crude remarks.

Normal for online gaming.

1/10 times, I met a well tempered and mature individual.

Margin of error.

08-15-2012, 08:47 AM
I'm going to be devil's advocate here and say that much more often than not, I come across nice people. Some are a little annoying and clearly much younger, but no-one has ever said anything rude or offensive. I think a large area comes from how you treat them. During your test, were you friendly and mature as you expected? Maybe I've just been lucky.

Also, a lot of kids is to be expected anyway. The only time I've ever seen the game purchased was by a very young child's mother. There are even some younger than 14 on here, the minimum age to join is 13, and of course some will just lie about their age.

Time also makes a difference, because obviously there are times when kids are at school (well, it's summer here in the UK, but normally), and sleeping and stuff. Fridays are usually busier.

08-15-2012, 10:24 AM
Moved to everything else LBP2.... carry on. :)

08-15-2012, 01:20 PM
Most of the time I get bombarded with slaps.

08-15-2012, 02:37 PM
All of the time, the people I dive into are nice. Maybe I'm lucky. But, one time, this guy was playing songs through his mic. I told him to stop, and he played another one, so I kicked him.

08-15-2012, 05:34 PM
Most of the time I get bombarded with slaps.
For some reason, most of the time I dive in, the welcoming committee just decides to get funky with their fists and slap me across the face. The funny thing is, slapping THEM is forbidden for whatever reason. It's like a pinata. You can smack it with bats all you want, but if the pinata hits YOU, then something's wrong.

I also just did it for the pin. After that, I only did it if I was desperately needing something to do. I actually liked ending up with little punks. It was fun messing with them and making them mad. But the players that I usually end up with are those annoying little weirdos that kick you right after you set foot in their Pod. Why accept it if you're just gonna kick me right after I join? Those trigger-happy kick-prone jerks as well. If you do so much as say "meh" they'll kick you right away. Really. It's happened before.

And henceforth, I refused to Dive in or accept Dive in's ever again. It's not a crime if you accept dive in's or dive in yourself though. You might just be really social. Or risking to play with a turd.

08-15-2012, 06:02 PM
:kz: I know, I know, terrible, but you get the idea.


I'm pretty sure about 9.9/10 Dive-Ins result in this for me.

08-15-2012, 06:07 PM
Your quick guide to dive-in:

The good: Not using it
The bad: Using it
The worse: Using it and joining a 5-year-old, maybe some emo kids, or a bunch of village idiots

08-16-2012, 06:21 AM
The real problem with diving in/dive in guests are what you're saying. Emos, trolls, and these bad-mouthed users are all we get in dive in. This is why I turn on auto-reject to block dive in guests. I also disabled comments so I won't get insults from these bad people. I seriously hate people who act immature online and say inappropriate things (especially kids).

08-16-2012, 01:14 PM
I've only used the Dive-in feature a few times, but my experiences have been varied. Once, I actually let someone join me (which I never actually do), and it was a whiny little kid, who I played a top-down vs. tank level with, and he was just killing himself over and over and over, so I won. :) He then grabbed onto a bit of sponge before the scoreboard and stayed there for three minutes screaming "I will never drop!" So I kicked him. That was the last time I let someone join me.
When I've dived, one time I actually played a co-op level with this nice (albeit rather bad-mouthed) guy and we had a lot of fun. Almost every other time I've joined people in (a) costumes consisting of one skin, random decorations, and a hat, or (b) emo costumes. All of which choose to play abysmal levels. One time I played three roller-coaster levels from LBP1 consecutively. One time I joined, the loaded a level, and once we joined the level someone was just like "Kick that guy" and so I was kicked. Another time, I joined three people dressed in emo costumes. They were randomly jumping around, slapping me, pausing to text someone, hugging and pretending that they were in love, and changing their costume to a different emo one. I then hazarded a suggestion "Want to play a level?" Which was received by several nonsensical insults and slaps. I don't use the dive-in feature anymore, unless I feel like trying to get one of the dive-in trophies.

08-16-2012, 06:41 PM
Far too true but something we cant take control of. You control what you do and you decide wether your rude or nice to someone.

08-16-2012, 08:47 PM
lol i have plenty of friends who i respect and they have friends i end up being friends with, so i just use the dive in now just to laugh. Seriously next time you dive in just laugh at them its amazing how fast time goes by going from pod to pod just to see how stupid they are being. I spent 2 hours one night purposely staying with that kid on the mic who resets the level everytime he doesn't win and i was laughing at how good he thought he was and how he made fun of other people.

08-16-2012, 08:53 PM
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08-17-2012, 01:59 AM
I found it funny how they thought using the slap function would intimidate me.

Brb, being scared from a sackboy slap.
I like the insights and experiences you guys are posting, it's really letting me see how much variation occurs amongst different individuals for here.

*sarcasm*lbptwoo iz my lif cuz i luv my sackboi and oder sackgirls an we make out and tahts why i no like when i get slapped cuz i feel emotshunaly hurt u nowe whut im seying.*sarcasm*

08-17-2012, 04:42 AM
As I see, no mature player would want to play with completely random other players, simply because most of them are impossible to play with. This trend is amplified, since fewer mature players wanting to play means there are fewer to join when someone else tries to dive in.

Dive-in is really just there for people that don't care. Complaints about who else uses dive-in aren't credible, since what else could be expected. If you want to actually play through levels, the friend list should be used instead.

(^Nothing against this thread, I find tales of dive-in attempts rather funny :P)

An improvement that I imagine could work is adding dive-in settings. Each player sets they're play style (silly, serious, create, etc), and you dive-in to a specific style. It's not perfect, but it'd definitely be better than now.

08-18-2012, 12:42 PM
I did a couple more a few nights ago. First were a couple of kids with a mic who insisted on playing this awful treehouse level. I left, but they weren't particularly annoying or anything, just bad taste.

Second person I joined was real nice, we played a few levels, we even joined a friend and everything was cool. Only bad bit was when I agreed to play one of his levels and he said "mortal kombat or shark survival" :p

08-18-2012, 07:42 PM
I find dive in perfectly fine, for the most part.

I can often join a few players and play with them for quite a while. I usually have a nice time if I am relatively quiet. Often the people I join have microphones and swear, or play copied or bad quality levels, or wear emo costumes-I don't mind. I find that the more you just go with the flow, the better time you have. I could just imagine how these people feel if you joined them, criticized their costumes, then told them that they shouldn't play that bomb survival and that they should play this Community Spotlighted level, and told them that they shouldn't swear (all using a lot of big words)? You'd come off as the most pretentious jerk in the universe. Of course you would get smacked a lot.
Thing is, they're kids-they're not the most mature lot (obligatory "some kids are mature and some adults are not" so people won't think I'm ageist). You can't expect them to be bothered to play anything not on the cool pages or to understand big words or to not wear what's currently "cool" on LBP or to not swear because "etiquette" or to not use their mic because their voice is high pitched and it would be "so much easier to use text, because obviously your voice is high pitched and annoying-hey why are you slapping me?" or to not use copied objects or to have great grammar (funny me, grammar in a run on sentence) or to treat you with respect or whatever.

08-18-2012, 09:18 PM
What annoys me most about dive in is how I suddenly get a join request message by some random goofball just as I'm tappping the circle button to exit a menu and I inadvertentally accept them. It means I have to jump up and yank out the ethernet cable before some shrieking 11 year old comes bouncing around my pod like Tigger on amphetamines.

08-22-2012, 02:42 PM
Ive only used the dive function a few times, kind of keep putting off getting the pin thanks to those few experiences ^.^

Tbh, how many million kill JB levels are there? Maybe a lil presumptuous of me (since Ive not played a single one of them), but Id say they didnt spend that much time on them and therefore it seems reasonable the odds will be high enough you are randomly teaming up a creator of such level. In their defense, they can sometimes have real water.


08-26-2012, 10:01 PM
I've actually made a few good friends from dive-ins, but for the most part my experiences are similar to those posted already. I have found a good use for it, though. When I'm bored, I'll sit in my pod and wait for a dive-in. The moment they come in, I start up my published levels, one by one. One of 3 things usually happen. They immediately disconnect, and you get no plays anyway. Or, they seem to not be at their controller; when I see this I quickly go from published level to level, and get a free play for each one. Or, I actually meet a cool person and play through some levels. Any way it turns out, it's a win for me.

08-27-2012, 05:39 PM
As of lately, I have always been letting 'Dive Ins' join me. It's exciting and fun, because you never know what kind of person you might get! One time, you may get some person who is absolutely halarious (Met one of my greatest online friends this way), and other times, you will get someone who is completely clueless and has no idea what's going on xD It's always a blast though, Infact it is a little like playing the lottery. Yes, most of the time, your not going to get anyone that special. But once every full moon.. You may hit a home run, and find someone amazing. That is why I always let Dive Ins join me, because, heck, you never know, that Dive In you just denied could have been one of your future best friends...

08-29-2012, 04:21 AM
The best LBP dive in advice always sounds like a modern version of "that talk" between parent and teen:

"Don't let just anyone dive into your pod." :D