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Hana_Kami
07-31-2014, 11:43 AM
Reason I am curious about this is not because I can't or am not willing to pay for PS Plus, but rather because I try to avoid paying for PS Plus if I can. I am going to be buying a ps4 in August or September depending on what I find out about this. If LBP3 does not require PS Plus then I'm getting ps4 now instead of waiting for the white glacier Destiny ps4 bundle in September, and Destiny is a game I know requires PS Plus. I'm not terribly hyped about Destiny, but interested enough to buy it IF LBP3 requires PS Plus. Technically what I'm saying is I'll only pay for PS Plus for LBP3, but not for Destiny. If LBP3 does require it I will be waiting until September to get the Destiny ps4 bundle since I know I will be getting PS Plus, but if LBP3 does not require it then I have no intentions of buying the Destiny bundle and will go ahead and just get the non-bundles ps4. My main reason for getting a ps4 was to take advantage of the free upgrade from ps3 version of Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn to the ps4 version which expires December this year, and that game also on both consoles does not require PS Plus, plus LBP3. Getting LBP3 on ps3 is not an option for me since since I'm only interested in the higher quality ps4 version since I'm getting a ps4 anyways.

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 12:28 PM
Yes. Source: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5060/~/ps4-online-multiplayer-requirements

TheKillerSack
07-31-2014, 12:31 PM
PS4 requires PS Plus so yeah, but for PS3 probably not i hope!

DannieSam
07-31-2014, 12:35 PM
Yes. Source: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5060/~/ps4-online-multiplayer-requirements
In that link's message, it states the online multiplayer is what you add with playstation plus memberships.
if you want to play local games then no, you don't need a plus membership.

Hana_Kami
07-31-2014, 12:37 PM
Yes. Source: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5060/~/ps4-online-multiplayer-requirements

That doesn't really say anything because Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn (an MMORPG) is not a free to play game and requires no PS Plus for the ps4 version of the game. All that says is free to play games will not require PS Plus, yet there are non-free to play games that also do not require it.


PS4 requires PS Plus so yeah, but for PS3 probably not i hope!

PS4 does not require PS Plus, only if you want to play online with others, yet not all online ps4 games require it.

Raku
07-31-2014, 12:46 PM
There really hasn't been much information on this issue sadly.

Maybe we will find out later on, or maybe you can bug one of the official people and they can tell you (so you can tell us =P).

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 12:50 PM
The link stated that if you want to play multiplayer on games such as LBP3, you'll need PS plus. Whats the point of having LBP3 if you dont have online lol

Hana_Kami
07-31-2014, 02:04 PM
The link stated that if you want to play multiplayer on games such as LBP3, you'll need PS plus. Whats the point of having LBP3 if you dont have online lol

Read my last message. If you read it you'd know the link is wrong. Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn is an MMORPG (massively multiplayer online) for both ps3 and ps4 that does not require a PS Plus subscription. It's also not a free to play game. Where in the link does it say LBP3? Sounds like you're making an assumption based on it having online multiplayer, yet I already said in last message that not all games on ps4 require PS Plus to play online. If it said LBP3 specifically in that link then my mistake and please tell me where.

Lord-Dreamerz
07-31-2014, 02:13 PM
I've been keeping up with all the current LBP3 info. It's unknown yet if PS4 version of LBP3 will need PS + in anyway or form yet. However the PS3 version of LBP3 very likely for sure won't, but that last part is even somewhat just a guess. Otherwise any info of if LBP3 on PS4 does or does not need PS + for online features is pure guess work on anybody's part as we do not truly know yet. *mew

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 02:16 PM
There's no doubt that the link is wrong. It's fact from the PlayStation site itself, I'm sure they give trustworthy information. There's always gonna be exceptions even if it's rare. The link doesn't say anything about LBP3, I was referring to your question: Will LBP3 Require PlayStation Plus Subscription? And my answer is yes, the majority, which is the online part. Of course, there's story-mode offline and create mode, but you wont get any updates, patches, DLC, and you cant share or play community levels.

If you're gonna get a PS4, you have to automatically pay for being online, anywhere, any game. Unless, you are offline at all times.

Lord-Dreamerz
07-31-2014, 02:21 PM
And my answer is yes, the majority, which is the online part. Of course, there's story-mode offline and create mode, but you wont get any updates, patches, DLC, and you cant share or play community levels.

If you're gonna get a PS4, you have to automatically pay for being online, anywhere, any game. Unless, you are offline at all times.

All that is guess work with no real info to support it tho.

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 02:26 PM
I just got even more information for you. Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn doesn't need PS plus BUT it does in fact need a certain subscription. Just like WOW, it costs monthly for you. That's the big difference.

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All that is guess work with no real info to support it tho.
Lol, I based my answer on the link itself. "In almost all cases, a PlayStation Plus account is needed to play online multiplayer on the PS4™"

Exceptions: Free-to-play games are exempt from this requirement and can be played online with no PS Plus subscription. Examples of games that fall into this category are: Blacklight Retribution, DC Universe Online, and War Frame.

Rogar
07-31-2014, 02:31 PM
... but you wont get any updates, patches, DLC, and you cant share or play community levels.

If you're gonna get a PS4, you have to automatically pay for being online, anywhere, any game. Unless, you are offline at all times.

Wait, that can't be right!? Surely you don't need PS+ to get updates/patches or buy DLC? It's just for playing with other people online, right?

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 02:34 PM
Wait, that can't be right!? Surely you don't need PS+ to get updates/patches or buy DLC? It's just for playing with other people online, right?

Wait, lemme think... It says that PS4 costs to have online. And you need online to get DLC/patches right? Or am I stupid? All that stuff comes from being connected to the internet trough PS4 which is called PS plus, right? o.O

Smuffy04
07-31-2014, 02:38 PM
The PS3 version most likely won't require PS Plus, as no games require it to play online it seems.:)
As for the PS4 version...

Yes. Source: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5060/~/ps4-online-multiplayer-requirements
This just implies that the game will require PS Plus to play online, not officially saying LittleBigPlanet 3 will require PS Plus to play online.:)

EinRobot
07-31-2014, 02:42 PM
Wait, lemme think... It says that PS4 costs to have online. And you need online to get DLC/patches right? Or am I stupid? All that stuff comes from being connected to the internet trough PS4 which is called PS plus, right? o.OI am not sure that they would lock patches behind a pay wall. I am not informed on the subject, but that just seems like a thing that makes little business sense. Also Netflix uses the internet and does not require PS+ on ps4.

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 02:46 PM
I am not sure that they would lock patches behind a pay wall. I am not informed on the subject, but that just seems like a thing that makes little business sense.

Just go to LBP2 for a second, log out. What's left? Except story-mode and the moon? It's not like you can get any updates if you're offline. Patches comes trough the internet, that's just pure fact. It has nothing with the PS4 subject to do so I hope you have learned this now. And the online will cost for PS4, as a reward you get PS plus. So in short, PS plus is online.

Hana_Kami
07-31-2014, 03:25 PM
If you're gonna get a PS4, you have to automatically pay for being online, anywhere, any game. Unless, you are offline at all times.

False. Playstation 4 already connects online even if you don't have PS Plus. Just to subscribe to PS Plus you have to be online, and most anything can be done online without PS Plus except multiplayer gaming, and even then not all games require it to play online multiplayer. Most Playstation 4 games with online play will require PS Plus because with PS Plus you get access to online multiplayer. You're saying PS Plus is required to use PS4 online anywhere which is not true, lol. And on top of that not all games require it, which brings me to my next point . . .


I just got even more information for you. Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn doesn't need PS plus BUT it does in fact need a certain subscription. Just like WOW, it costs monthly for you. That's the big difference.

I know this because I play the game, which is why I said your link is wrong because FFXIV is NOT a free to play game, whereas your link says free to play games are the exception to requiring PS Plus. When it comes down to it you don't have an answer, only a guess. It seems Sony has not announced this yet since no one here knows either. Like you I also assume LBP3 will require PS Plus, but it's just an assumption, not a fact or an answer. To be honest any online multiplayer game that has a ps3 and ps4 version should not require PS Plus for the ps4 version since it's kind of unfair to those playing on ps4, but sadly most do. Due to the nature of LBP and the kind of game it is it may not require PS Plus, but I'm not holding my breath. If it was a ps4 only game I wouldn't even need to ask, but so far all of the multiplayer games that do not require PS Plus happen to be available on both ps3 and ps4.

EDIT: I found the answer to this myself which I made in bold text by checking PS4's wikipedia; quote "Unlike PS3, a PlayStation Plus subscription is required to access online multiplayer in most games; this requirement does not apply to "free-to-play" or subscription-based titles.

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 03:40 PM
"False. Playstation 4 already connects online even if you don't have PS Plus. Just to subscribe to PS Plus you have to be online, and most anything can be done online without PS Plus except multiplayer gaming, and even then not all games require it to play online multiplayer. Most Playstation 4 games with online play will require PS Plus because with PS Plus you get access to online multiplayer. You're saying PS Plus is required to use PS4 online anywhere which is not true, lol. And on top of that not all games require it, which brings me to my next point . . ."

Hold on a second here, you misinterpret what I meant. You are assuming I was talking about the internet. I said "online" not being connected to the internet. Of course being connected to your own internet is free in terms of the PS4. But I meant being connected to multi. And to even be able to connect to mulitplayer on PS4, you need a PS plus subscription. That costs money. And all games that require a online connection in some form, cant be 100% enjoyed without it. That's my point, without PS plus you cant really enjoy LBP3 on PS4 to the fullest range. That's why I answered yes to your question.

wally-217
07-31-2014, 03:51 PM
You can go online without PS+ on a PS4, I think PS+ is purely to access game servers. You don't need PS+ for web-browsing so I assume it's the same for updates, PS Store and messaging.
LBP follows the free-to-play business strategy, even if the game itself requires money to purchase.

It's a legitimate question and I think we would all benefit from official confirmation.

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 03:53 PM
*sigh* And why even bring up FFXIV? It doesn't have anything to do with the subject. FFXIV is not even a free-to-play game so why even mention that my link was wrong because it stated that free-to-play games are the only exception?

SwagosPuntos
07-31-2014, 03:56 PM
I did some research and no, LBP3 for PS4/PS3 do not require PS+ (at least from what I've found).

Here's a little chart I found on the Playstation Support (http://faq.en.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5030/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNDA2ODIxNjA2L3NpZC9RWEFXQkctbA%3D% 3D):

It's the developer's/publisher's choice whether they want the online play to require PS+. :)

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 04:01 PM
You can go online without PS+ on a PS4, I think PS+ is purely to access game servers. You don't need PS+ for web-browsing so I assume it's the same for updates, PS Store and messaging.
LBP follows the free-to-play business strategy, even if the game itself requires money to purchase.

It's a legitimate question and I think we would all benefit from official confirmation.

This. But without PS plus you cant gain access to the Multiplayer in LBP3, that brings us back to my main point..

Lord-Dreamerz
07-31-2014, 04:06 PM
This. But without PS plus you cant gain access to the Multiplayer in LBP3, that brings us back to my main point..

You do not even know that as a fact. They have said nowhere that Multiplayer is held back in LBP3 unless you have PS+. Assuming and making logical guesses is perfectly fine, But that does not make it fact. *mew

EinRobot
07-31-2014, 04:10 PM
Just go to LBP2 for a second, log out. What's left? Except story-mode and the moon? It's not like you can get any updates if you're offline. Patches comes trough the internet, that's just pure fact. It has nothing with the PS4 subject to do so I hope you have learned this now. And the online will cost for PS4, as a reward you get PS plus. So in short, PS plus is online.
I don't think you understand. PS+ is NOT required for an internet connection. So in short PS+ is not online. That's not debatable, that is a fact.

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 04:11 PM
You do not even know that as a fact. They have said nowhere that Multiplayer is held back in LBP3 unless you have PS+. Assuming and making logical guesses is perfectly fine, But that does not make it fact. *mew

*sigh* Are you trolling me? What you don't seem to understand is that PS4 require PS plus membership in order to play Multiplayer. That goes for LBP3. You don't even need a source for this.

Lord-Dreamerz
07-31-2014, 04:15 PM
*sigh* Are you trolling me? What you don't seem to understand is that PS4 require PS plus membership in order to play Multiplayer. That goes for LBP3. You don't even need a source for this.

Really? I thought you were the 1 messing with us. Since you been refusing to listen to anybody in any way. :P
Not all games Multiplayer require PS +, You know and been told this. And PS4 in general doesn't require PS+ to go online. It depends on the game and what Sony wants.

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 04:16 PM
I don't think you understand. PS+ is NOT required for an internet connection. So in short PS+ is not online. That's not debatable, that is a fact.

I never said that PS plus was required for an internet connection. You always have online, but you need PS plus to get access to multiplayer.

EinRobot
07-31-2014, 04:18 PM
I never said that PS plus was required for an internet connection. You always have online, but you need PS plus to get access to multiplayer.
Oh, I thought you said people would not be able to buy dlc or receive patches unless they had PS+. I must have read that wrong.

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 04:19 PM
Really? I thought you were the 1 messing with us. Since you been refusing to listen to anybody in any way. :P
Not all games Multiplayer require PS +, You know and been told this. And PS4 in general doesn't require PS+ to go online. It depends on the game and what Sony wants.

LOL, with us? I was having a conversation with the original poster until you decided to jump in. I can show all my posts, the whole time I said that you need PS plus to get access to Multiplayer, not online.

EinRobot
07-31-2014, 04:24 PM
Wait, that can't be right!? Surely you don't need PS+ to get updates/patches or buy DLC? It's just for playing with other people online, right?

This clearly indicates that you said online and not just multiplayer

Lord-Dreamerz
07-31-2014, 04:24 PM
LOL, with us? I was having a conversation with the original poster until you decided to jump in. I can show all my posts, the whole time I said that you need PS plus to get access to Multiplayer, not online.

This is a open forum, anybody can jump in at any moment. I never said you were not allowed to share your opinion. I was merely pointing out the fact you were trying to pass off some logical guesses as pure fact while they are not. *mew

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 04:25 PM
Oh, I thought you said people would not be able to buy dlc or receive patches unless they had PS+. I must have read that wrong.

According to Gamereactor, you need PS plus in order to have Multiplayer access. I thought DLC/patches was in the same category as Multiplayer..

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This is a open forum, anybody can jump in at any moment. I never said you were not allowed to share your opinion. I was merely pointing out the fact you were trying to pass off some logical guesses as pure fact while they are not. *mew

Logical guesses? All I said from the beginning was that LBP3 wont be as enjoyable without PS plus. But it may have come out wrong. I apology for that then.

SwagosPuntos
07-31-2014, 04:27 PM
Guys. You should all stop arguing, because nobody here knows for sure whether LBP3 will require PS+ or not. Everybody has their own opinion and it's okay to have different opinions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t93u0qg5q_M

:)

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 04:28 PM
This clearly indicates that you said online and not just multiplayer

Have you seen who posted it? Not me, he wasn't even asking me.

EinRobot
07-31-2014, 04:28 PM
Wait, lemme think... It says that PS4 costs to have online. And you need online to get DLC/patches right? Or am I stupid? All that stuff comes from being connected to the internet trough PS4 which is called PS plus, right? o.O
This clearly indicates you were talking about online and not just multi player.

*Second time is the charm

blacksackman
07-31-2014, 04:30 PM
This clearly indicates you were talking about online and not just multi player.

*Second time is the charm

*Mega sigh* Can you see the question marks? Good because I missed it once and it turned out to be a huge misstake.

EinRobot
07-31-2014, 04:38 PM
There's no doubt that the link is wrong. It's fact from the PlayStation site itself, I'm sure they give trustworthy information. There's always gonna be exceptions even if it's rare. The link doesn't say anything about LBP3, I was referring to your question: Will LBP3 Require PlayStation Plus Subscription? And my answer is yes, the majority, which is the online part. Of course, there's story-mode offline and create mode, but you wont get any updates, patches, DLC, and you cant share or play community levels.

If you're gonna get a PS4, you have to automatically pay for being online, anywhere, any game. Unless, you are offline at all times.maybe this is Better? No question marks.

Lady_Luck__777
07-31-2014, 04:45 PM
After reading over the thread...just a reminder- Site rule #9. Calm, reasoned debate is completely allowed. As long as you are respectful of others' opinions, you are free to express your own.
Also:
http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?36936-

Since the OP has stated she found the solution to her question-

EDIT: I found the answer to this myself which I made in bold text by checking PS4's wikipedia; quote "Unlike PS3, a PlayStation Plus subscription is required to access online multiplayer in most games; this requirement does not apply to "free-to-play" or subscription-based titles. in her post #18, I'm going to lock.