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Yeah...TBH it was better before EVERYONE found out. It could have been ok if kept within LBPC, where people know when to stop, but when EVERYONE got access to it cool levels got flooded once again.
I must say, though, it's been quite an interesting experience to watch everyone's reactions to it.
How would you keep it within LBPC? A random newbie would show up here and tell it to the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by 49DRA
I just wish we had a few more layers though. The original had like 5 thick layers, didn't it?
I find the "3D" glitch as a cheap ticket to the "Cool Pages". I mean, sure, it's a pretty background and the glitch makes the level look bigger... but that's it. No animation, no other items able to be put in... just building objects. Plus, not everyone has the ability to use the glitch, making the situation more unbalanced...
But what I do agree on is that a background editor would be very interesting. I mean, it clearly showed that the PS3 can handle it, and also, people love the glitch! If the fans love it, then why not give it to them? Sure, it may cause some bug, but you can patch the existing glitch and make a new "tool" for the next Creator's pack. The fans would be pleased, and you can see even more cool levels.
Sigh... it may change a gamer's opinion on what's cool and what's not, though. That's what I hate about glitches... people exploit it, then praise it, then developer patches it... and everyon get's annoyed. It's a glitch... it'll only be there temporarily.
MM need a background editor, and I will be happy. I have worried about putting this i my levels due to glitches. I have occasionally tried out the glitch on blank levels, though.
This glitch becomes REALLY annoying when people are using it to make a drama about if you should use it, and the fake MM announcements? Seriously.
*Cough*
You can still work on levels if you disconnect the PS3 from the internet.
I have a suspicion that Mm had plans to release this publicly in the near future. Donkey Show said he thought people would go back and do some editing when one of the upcoming features that was revealed to him had been released. I think this may be what he was talking about. It works a little too well to be a simple code error.
My guess would be it's a hangover from when there were more layers. The layers still exist, but they added code to prevent you from accessing them, and code in play mode that prevents sackboy from planeshifting to them.
The code error would be the loophole that allows you to access them. They will most likely patch this and then make a marketting decision on whether to, and how to, open it back up as a feature.
If only MM could make us go into the 50 layers i know thats nearly impossible now but it would be pretty sick..... i take that back maybe just like 10 layers would be better.....
Again, for the 1000th time.
The glitch is not the problem, the problem is the flood of levels made just for the purpose of using the glitch.
You will never enter a x named level and find a beautiful use of the glitch but the LBP world has been stormed by lavels named "level with layer glitch", "50 awesome layers glitch", "ZOMG level layer glitch", "mama I've got 15 layers more, WTF!".
And this is, IMHO, absolutely mental.
So you are saying this is to stop the spam levels?
Indeed.
I find it pointless, it just weigth on the server IMHO.
Servers have not infinite space, and we see quite an impressive level growth (1 million and counting), so one day the server space will be fulled with rubbish.
This glitch is great for people who would like to experiment and add a little extra something to their levels but if you don't want to use it then great, fine, your choice. Just wondering why people actually want it removed.
I personally don't care either way much, because I won't be using it, but others may feel strongly at both ends of the argument. Some feel it is a great way to create scenery and enhance immersion. Others are tired of it clogging up the Cool Levels pages. That is an over-simplified version of both arguments, but I'll let you see it for yourself as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoRnDawwg
LBP is a platformer but it is already 3D. 1D= Moving in a line left to right. 2D= Moving up and down aswell as left to right. 3D= Moving up, down, left, right, backwards and forwards (which is possible with LBP's three layers).
This is correct also, I'm going to try to finish my extra layer level (that makes good use for scenery and doesn't just say, look I'm clever enough to put a glitch in my level) before it is patched. Hopefully it will still work if the objects are already in the back layers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam9001
It would be good if MM release a more user friendly tool for this so people can make their own backgrounds.
SASGUNNER: Give up on the 3d thing man, it's not worth trying to educate the masses.
I personally think it's an awful feature that the vast majority will struggle to achieve anything useful with. Most will manage to use it in a detrimental fashion (see my posts elsewhere about visual cues) and it won't add any gameplay to the level. That's not exactly why I'd want it removed, becausde I know people will make bad levels with whatever toosl we are given.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoRnDawwg
The reason why I want it removed:
This represents an unexpected behaviour in the code, it needs to be investigated to determine what is causing it and to detect what knock on effects it may have. Probably none, but your system shouldn't behave in an unexpected way. For this reason I expect MM to close up the loophole, they won't just call it a "feature" and leave it be - it would just be very unprofessional
Now if they choose to add this as proper, supported feature, that means dev time towards interface design, module / code design and implementation, extensive QA... All for something that IMO, adds no gameplay opportunities.
Short answer: I don't expect this to be left as a glitch and I would much rather see dev time devoted to gameplay enhancing tools than a purely visual tool that most will struggle to use well.
I find this glitch useful, but I'm annoyed by the hundreds of levels made in 10 mins. or so just about 3D. :/
I put thi766's layer objects into an empty level (Without Community Object tags) so if they patch this, I can simply use the objects in there.
I've been working real hard on completely re-doing my level "Jump Survival Challenge". (No, not a crappy jump challenge level, a survival challenge with tons of eyecandy, great mechanics, and more) and I'm adding a bit of 3D objects into it to make it look better.
I know it sounds newby making a 3D jump challenge, but just wait, you'll be amazed at it. :)
As long MM removes the ability to put things in the background, rather than making levels with stuff already in the background unplayable.
The project I'm working on already incorporates a part where you see something very small fall from the sky in the 50th layer and land with a *thud*. Kind of part of the narrative.
I got a message back from Mm and its lol
They sent you a message saying "lol"?