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Picked it up last night and I'm really liking it so far. Great stickers in the gothic architecture part - the black lines with transparent background style ones are especially useful. Interesting materials too. Haven't played with the sound effects yet but so far I'm very happy with this pack. :)
The sounds?? Well they are simply YOOOOOOOOORRRRRREEEEEElicious!Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgana25
Has no one gone for the "they aren't yore sounds, their mine!" yet?
That's too much:p but it's kind of you:)Quote:
Originally Posted by OmegaSlayer
Don't know, might give it a try, but I'm currently working on a new little level that I hope I will finish (I already started and gave up 3 ideas/levels..:()
To go back to the thread, I really like this pack also.
It has some high quality elements (objects,decoration, sounds...).
Background and music are good also but the music is too short and not interactive:(
Anyway always good to have new stuff, and it surely worth the price..!:)
Ha! Nice one.Quote:
Originally Posted by rtm223
I've already told some one they 'Genghis Kan't'
In fact, I think it was Zwollie, who at the time was singing along to the Pink Panther theme tune (movie, not cartoon). It was quite surreal to see and hear a singing Belgian dressed as Genghis. LBP sure is diverse.
(NOTE: I still love you, Zwol. And your singing cleared up my ear infection!)
:)
more DLC of this quality would be most welcome by me. might even email Mm to let them know!
Tell them to please include more interactive songs if possible while you are at it. :)
They've been working on this since before Christmas and the work has clearly paid off. I have two gripes with the pack and that is the music isn't interactive and the showcase level is very boring and unimaginative. Other than that, I love it!
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Originally Posted by Count
triple beep is bad...it basically means there was a problem that the PS3 had to reboot itself...
and i dont share profiles....but just in case can you define that for me?
i really dont know how this is happening or the solution someone help this sucks :(
that bit will go in the letter of complaint that I send at the same time! you've no idea how gutted I was when I saw that tune in the non-interactive section. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Syroc
Welp, I'm definitely making a mechanical level heavily based on the Gothic stickers and a lot of the things from the other packs. It'll be pretty. :D
Plus, I think the song is perfect - forget interactivity, I like it as it is.
Well after having the pack for almost a day now I've spent time going through eveything. Overall, I'm pleased but I do have disappointments with the pack... mainly the sound objects.
First of all, we only get thirteen new sounds... disappointing for a pack that's supposed to cover the history of the world. While they are all new sounds that don't seem to resemble anything we already have (with the exception of the caveman sound which is extremely reminiscent of the sumo yell, and the mud pit which I'll get to in a minute), they simply don't do much for me. The most original and likely the most useful ones are the clock chime, clock tick, sword draw, and the best in my opinion... the time warp sound (absolutely a great sound!). Four out of twelve... not great odds if you ask me.
The dinosaur is just another "large monster sound" that I would lump in with the plethora of large creature sounds you can already pull from the Monters, MGS, Monster Pack, ICO/Shadow of Colossus, or even the Animal (with a little pitch tweaking) sound packs. The baby dinosuar isn't bad, but I wonder why they didn't just call it squeaky window which is more what it sounds like and is undoubtedly what the main element of the sound is comprised of.
Map unfurl and match light are two of those sounds you won't likely find many uses for that other's won't use for the same purposes, unless you really think outside the box (I can only think of a few myself).
Unfortunately, the rest of the sounds are all "continuous" sounds which make them difficult to use in any level without setting them up to switches. The clock tick would be great for Survivial Challenge levels if set to speed switches in order to get the players heart racing and could really enhance the feeling of anxiety.
Marching... not much to say on this at all other than it sounds more like someone crunching a cookie over and over. Still, I can see a few uses for it but I really hate having to set these continuous sounds up to switches when it's so much easier to loop single sounds on your own and have the option to do so.
Mud pit is decent for BG noise, but would have been better suited to the Monster Pack kit... and I suspect that it might have been just left out by accident. In my opinion... it's just another bubbly type of water sound with a few extra fart bubble sounds thrown in (great for a lab environment when used with bubbly water sounds though).
Quill pen... I'm just baffled as to how this made the cut? Terribly specific scratchy sound and is horribly annoying when played in it's "loop" form. I suppose a small bug scittling across the level could benefit from this, but other than that I see little value in it.
Stamped... just another rolling rock or thunderstorm'ish sound. Certainly useful as BG noise for a large spaceship interior/exterior when used in the low pitch areas and even good for a waterfall when pitched high... but we already have sounds we can use to achieve these effects.
I think Mm needs to start up'ing the sound quality, as well as the quantity. I've worked doing sound design (yes I applied for the job but living in Canada will certainly lower my chances of being a contender where work visa's are concerned), and I personally think these sounds are generally missing the mark. It's really not that difficult to come up with better stuff given the time between pack releases. I'd jump at the chance to come up with some sounds that are more interesting and useful to this game, and would even consider working for free here and just sending them stuff and say "Here, it's free, it's usefull, and it's never been heard before in LBP.
I also think they need to make the sound packs really unique from pack to pack. This one only has two sounds that are at all similar to others we have access to... but that's two to many in my opinion.
I think we need more than thirteen sounds in a pack, and I think we need less continuous sounds and more individual ones we can loop on our own.
Other than that... great pack overall! Except for the stickers.... oooooooh I hate stickers. lolz :p
To wrap up I'd just like to say that this is only my opinion, both professionally and as a creator. Please don't jump all over me and try to start an argument. Friendly discussions are welcome and I'm perfectly willing to hear why people may have differing opinions... maybe you can change my mind by pointing out something I'm missing when looking at the overall picture.
Cheers!:)
It's really hard to make sound effects, though. At least, I would think.
My aspirations for a new pack would probably be Music. We need more than piano sounds to make our own custom tracks!
You are absolutely entitled to express your opinion Rustbukkit. :) I haven't played with the sounds yet but your post has me thinking of a few things I might be able to use those for.
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Originally Posted by adam9001
freedom of speech
You're right, it's not easy for the average person who doesn't do it for a living or think creatively where sound is concerned. I've worked on shows where we had several team members contributing to the sound department and certainly some shine where other's don't. I just figure if you have someone working in that department, they should be really good at what they do as well as very creative.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLS10
I agree with you whole heartedly on the lack of musical sounds and the ability to make our own custome tracks. A basic sound editing tool would benefit creators sooooo much. :)
Thanks Morgana. Being someone who thinks musically and sonically I have lot's of ideas for many of the sounds we have access to. Unfortunately many of them don't lend themselves to the types of levels I am interested in creating. If you're ever stuck for a sound for something, feel free to message me for suggestions.... I'm always here to help. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgana25
Know what? I'm actually a bit deceived by this pack. I mean, it pains me how much useless stuff is packed it. I will probably use like 2 of the 4 materials, 20-something of the stickers. The only real worth in there is the background, most sounds and the 2 materials that are actually useful. I kind of feel 4$ was almost a stretch. Media Molecule are REALLY lucky i'm a dedicated creator 'cause otherwise I totally wouldn't have bought it. For some reason the Monster pack was the same type of content but generally better.
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I guess it depend on what kind of level you want to make.
Some people will find a great use for a lot of elements, others don't (or not yet)...
For me, there are too many useless stickers (140!!) I would have prefer more decorations or sounds...
and sure i'm not using half of those elements for now, but I still like it.
The problem with those creation packs is that they are maybe to specific,
they stick to much to their theme, so it's hard to use most of the elements in a completely different theme idea/level.
In the same time, there's even a lot of stuff we get in the Story mode, that nobody ever use....
For a next one, MM should think of generic stuff like a "basic LBP" pack, in which we could find for example :
- materials like new kind of cardboard, polystiren, metal...
- some stickers such as new color/gradient stickers, new alphabet letters or new character faces, eyes, mouth...
- sounds like new character voices, new natural sounds...
etc...
Some general elements that can fit in many theme ideas...
well, don't know, but I think that they do a great job anyway,
and it's hard to satisfy everyone, everytime... :p
LOL , I made a time machine ages ago for someone on here who was going to make a time travelling level. I sent it to them but never heard anything again. It was a pretty accurate model of the actual time machine from the old film of the same name by H.G.Wells.Quote:
Originally Posted by hilightnotes
I'm not sure if i still have it but if I have and anyone wants to use it just let me know.
I liked the Decorations, the new song, and the materials
The background doesn't really do much for me and the new sounds are just ok, I don't really care for the objects as I never use any in any of my levels (except for LED lights)
And more useless stickers that I'll never use....
Overall, I thought the Monster Pack was alot more creative, this pack was kinda average.
The only pure reason I probably bought this pack was because I was making a asian themed level :P
I acturally thought the stickers were well done this time, since it wasn't all just parts of monsters or faces of random things. It was nice how the building stickers how they were seperated into parts so you can make your own buildings.
The objects were very nice too since it wasn't just scenic but you were able to interacate with it in your level as well. Like the Chinese Bell and the Gargoyle Platform.
The only downside that probably isn't related to the creators but for a player i would of loved to see so more effort in the gallery level. The monster pack gallery level was fun because it had some little mini games in the middle, but the History Pack gallery level was just running -> that way. And maybe 2 platforming puzzles. I was really looking forward for the gallery level for some reason... probably because it's a level made by MM....
Bought it! Liked it! Level I'm currently working on will use it!
Thanks!
Rick!
;)!
I LOVE this pack!
Probably better than the Monster pack, too...
I don't know what you guys are thinking, but the 140 stickers are totally worth it. Especially the architectural ones. The gothic stickers are probably my favorite.
The objects are pretty cool, I really like the large vase and Egyptian head. The gargoyle is great, but I think someone said this already but, it takes up waaay too much thermo space for my liking.
The background is meh. It's pretty much the same as the MGS middle-eastern one, but it still works I guess.
The sounds are alright, but if you want to hear more about those go read Rustbukkit's rant lol. I pretty much feel the same.
The music is one of my favorites in LBP even though it's not interactive. 'Nuff said.
The gallery level was really boring. I expected a bit more from Mm, but this didn't really cut it for me.
I think I would have bought this pack soon after it was released in the store, but I was on holiday and only just came back today.:( I'll buy it later though. It looks pretty neat.:)
I can't believe I just wasted 4 bucks on this...So disappointing
wow man, I couldn't agree more! Basically the monster pack is mostly only useful for monster levels, And mm seemed to try to fix that by improving the variety of the different cultures in the history pack, which helped a lot, but still not as good as a pack like the one you're talking about would be. What we need is an all-purpose pack. I personally like cretor pack one a lot nore than the monster or history packs :SQuote:
Originally Posted by dajdaj03
Yeah, I'd love a pack like that! Mostly for the letter stickers. The ones we have now are so... circus-y (Is that even a word?). :)
Totally agree , another word for the letters and numbers would be 'CRAP'. I can't believe they still haven't given us some good , normal looking ones. That would be so easy for them and would probably only take a couple of minutes. Come on Mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by resistance1
To ApellesJr : If you'd played the level I told you about earlier in the thread you could have seen everything in the pack before buying so wouldn't have wasted any money. That's what I put it up there for.
If you are that bothered about having new letters then there are plenty of places in the community you can find them for free. Also, a lot of really cool fonts are very geometric, so can be constructed out of the object primitives easilly, even if you're not that hot on the artistic side. I've made two fonts myself, and it is so much easier creating custom signage when you have letter objects to sticker up and photograph than just slapping down the MM stickers and trying to align them well.
My biggest gripe with the packs is the quantity of stickers. I just don't want most of them.
@Rustbukkit. I just want a sound pack. Upping the customisation of all sound in the game as well as adding new sounds.
Welllllllll.....*sigh* :blush:Quote:
Originally Posted by mistervista
I got the pack, and it's actually better then I thought it would be! Sure, the level isn't as good as I hoped, and the sound effects are not very good in my opinion, but the other stuff is excellent! The stickers are brilliant for making buildings, the decorations are great, and the song is awesome! It's just too bad it isn't interactive.:(
Still, I'd say the pack's worth buying!
yay! woohoo!
In my humble opinion:
It's about freaking time Ada Lovelace got her own character in a video game!
You know, I've always said Ada Lovelace would make a natural platformer star. I've always said it. Ever since I was little and first played Super Mario Bros, I've said "mother, dear. Shall they make a game of this nature with miss Ada Lovelace in the starring role? Oh DO say they shall!"Quote:
Originally Posted by swanbrown
I'm just saying, I was right all along.
I'm just saying.