Destiny by amazingflyingpoo **Spotlighted**

Destiny by amazingflyingpoo
Part 1 of the Fate series: Take Destiny2 on her maiden voyage to retrieve a piece of Fate technology that was lost when the planet Destiny was destroyed.

This is my 5th PSP level, and the first level that I have ever made (on PSP or PS3) that is set in space.

The story for the level is this:

There was an ancient race of beings know as the Fate who lived on the planet Destiny. The Fate had powers and technology that made it so that they could manipulate space and time to control events around the universe to alter them for a better future for all living things.

Other races became jealous because of this incredible power, and through a series of events, Destiny was destroyed.

Now, 4 years later, you are the pilot of Destiny2, a ship who's sole purpose is to try to pick up the pieces and return hope to the universe.

With Shallow Springs and A Dingo Down Under I heard some complaints that there were no "gimmicks" that made the levels feel really unique, and I think that the people who were unhappy about that should be very happy with the mechanics of this level.

While I will admit that there are tiny bits of slowdown here and there, it is certainly not an issue that will be bogging you down for your playthrough. The only lag that I have noticed is when you move through an area and something moves (door opens, etc...), and the lag quickly goes away. Considering the tech that was in this level, I have no idea why there isn't a lag problem, but I am happy that there isn't :-)

I want to make a point about one thing in the level: There is a section of the level where your missions are listed. If you manage to complete part of a mission without ever actually having the mission assigned to you, then you will receive a check-mark, but you will never know what the mission statement was. This was intentional. I wanted it so that if there are completionists out there, then they will need to figure out what order to do things in to see all of the missions and to get check-marks for all of them.

One last point I want to make is that I tried to use people from this forum as the characters in the level. I did this on PS3 back in the day and it inevitably ends up hurting people's feelings who get left out. Please understand that there are only so many characters who get names, so that I cannot use everyone, plus there are names that I just can't use because they don't fit as names (i.e.: BlueBulletBill, ThisIsInsane, Fastbro, SeekingTruth, etc...). I actually plan on giving a shout out to these people in future levels if this level is accepted well and I follow through with a sequel, so please know that you have not been forgotten, and you ARE certainly appreciated by me!

Oh, and one last thing! A BIG thanks to Jeffcu28 and Taffey for some incredibly helpful feedback when they beta tested the level. As usual, I managed to hand them a terrible level, and they helped me turn it into something that might just be enjoyable ;)

Ah-Ha! I bet you thought that I was done babbling! Well, you're wrong! Thanks to the awesomeness who is the person we call Taffey, I now have some great pictures:

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Thank you so much for checking the level out!

Hi, Poo! I am still here! And I am downloading your new level right now! Unfortunately I will have no internet access later today and all day tomorrow! So I will see your new level right now, but will post feedback just in Monday. See you and thanks again for great help with my new level! :)

BTW - level's story is wonderful!

New poo level! I was just about to publish my blog entry, now I'm going to need to make a couple of adjustments...

Btw. This looks awesome!

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Hi, Poo! I am still here! And I am downloading your new level right now! Unfortunately I will have no internet access later today and all day tomorrow! So I will see your new level right now, but will post feedback just in Monday. See you and thanks again for great help with my new level!

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No worries :-) I will be looking forward to your feedback because I always love feedback from you :-) As for your level, I had an absolute blast playing it. It is really a great level and I am glad that you let me have the chance to try it out early!

Thanks so much for downloading my level!

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New poo level! I was just about to publish my blog entry, now I'm going to need to make a couple of adjustments...

Btw. This looks awesome!

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Sorry about that Fastbro :( I didn't mean to screw things up for you, I promise! I have such troubles with having access to Wi-fi lately, so I wanted to publish it when I knew I would have access for at least 24 hours.

Well, I knew I had missed out on nabbing that beta. I'll have feedback in a sec.

When I come to Community Moon you level already had 1 download and one heart! :)

Wow. Another level.
I wasn't expecting one. I'm glad I turned on my psp as I read this. :)

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Well, I knew I had missed out on nabbing that beta. I'll have feedback in a sec.

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You're actually lucky that you missed out on the beta :) Not only did it have a few issues that made the level extra hard (it's been toned down A LOT now), but I also had some serious issues publishing it. It took some trial and error that went on for much longer than I would have liked before I managed to get the level published for Jeff and Taffey. I was very relieved when it finally went up, because I was beginning to think that something was seriously wrong with it!


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Wow. Another level.
I wasn't expecting one. I'm glad I turned on my psp as I read this.

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Usually it takes me well over a month to make a level, and it certainly hasn't been that long since A Dingo Down Under. Well, the reason that it came out so soon after A Dingo Down Under is that I had been working on it for a while before the WDSD competition was announced. I ended up deciding to put Destiny on hold for a while and then came back to it and finished it.

Okay, here's my play-by-play.
Wow! A dramatic story scene! Sweet! Cool story too... Woah, nice alien. The glass on the elevator is a nice touch. The characters I'm seeing here are nice - you weren't kidding when you said after Shallow Springs you'd kick it up a notch, they all look great. Love the smoke from the sleep chamber. Back down the cool elevator. Nice fountain, and the window is beautiful, followed by the also awesome statue. (I'm getting into clitche adjectives at this point, but who cares.) Another smoky door, and I'm in the Destiny2.

Huh, a captain named Jonze. Wonder where you got such an odd name? Leonard too? I swear, if there's not a Bill or Blue in here, I'm gonna be sad. SORA!?! Seriously? Spark. Taffey, Jeff. Ugh. Idk what to do at this point, after finding Phalasia. You really need to make a guide for this one. Guess I'll follow JEFF's advice and talk to the Admiral again. Yay for backtracking! I'm gonna try to find some of this magic material from people on the ship. I head up and jump in the elevator, and I'm stuck! No clue, but I broke your level. Oh well, that's what retry is for. Huh, I get it, the two bonus missions give me more. To the controls! By this point, the cloud of speech over *JEFF's* head is enormous. Time to explore some planets. An idea - It would help if there was a map. Found a meteor, so time to explore.

Dramatic space scroll! Ok, so he's fine. Now some tricky platforming, and I've got some more material! Those tall rocks could have been wider, as I kept slipping off. Back to the ship! I'll save the base missions for later, as I want to avoid backtracking as much as possible. Oh. Of course, the planet Saleri. Nice. Lots more material here, and some really good platforming - nice to have a break from mind-numbing RPG. Joy, a timed door. Two tries later, and - ha! I don't have PS3 LBP, but I still get it. Good one. Time to find the third planet. You know, it would be nice to just have a auto selector instead, I mean, just pull one switch to go side-to-side. These controls get tiring. Ugh. I cannot, for the life of me, find the second meteor, just the one where 'Sora' was on. Gotta keep searching. Still can't find it. I decide to check the large meteor one more time... Yup, the same. Gonna head back to the ship to cash in my bonuses. Oh. I went up to see if there were any hints, and saw you couldn't make my name fit. Well, try Blue or Bill next time!

Ok, missions cashed in, I'm headed for Phalsia! It's too bad I can't find the bonus meteor, I'm sure it would be fun. Woohoo! I hurry through, and get to the end. Nice work, and I hope you got all of my rambling summary. I can't wait for the next level, and for meeting Blue/Bill! ;) 5/5 and a heart!

Wow. WOW! wow..... Dam, it's really good. Time for Feedback now. You know how to create a space theme.
You did an awesome job to make one. You made the doors look awesome, for the space station place.
I enjoyed the scenery, I thought it would be straight up space, but it was like a city in space. (You know, like Star Wars)
I thought the level was awesome. As I saw the "In Memory of Destiny" picture I thought it looked cool. After I went back to talk to Admiral Domik, (Nice touch) I looked at the "In Memory of Destiny" picture again. Then I noticed something. I thought "How did you make that scene look 3D like?" I mean, on the right side its on the back layer. The left side is on the front layer.
Then the planet is in between the two layers. You made it look like the ship revolved around the planet. As I looked closer, the left side was really in the back layer, and the ship alone was in the front.
You confused my mind for a moment. You made that scene 3D.

Fantastic characters too. Forgot to mention, your sticker work was BOMB. It was very awesome sticker work.
You made cool creatures with simple stickers. Fantastic usage of work there. You thought all my attention was just on the level making? Nah, it's not just about stickers and materials. Something you wanted to show is the work with your mechanics. Like I mentioned before, the doors were awesome. You use the rockets to add an effect to the doors. Interesting, but not the best. What was best was the part with controlling the ship. No one on the psp has pulled that off.
Well, I kind of, but it wasn't the same. You know how I used the Fog Visor in Solid Journey? I was thinking of doing something like that for more puzzles, but I didn't.
You on the other hand, you controlled the whole ship and view. Whatever planter you looked upon, that is where you could land on. That was very, I mean very great usage of Mechanics. I couldn't see them, but I can pretend to visualize it. You controlled how to land in a certain area.

The storyline was good and it became interesting. Collecting those (I forgot the word) things that gave you more time to live through heat. That was an Amazing idea to do. The planets were awesome too. A nice touch to the level was the fact that you added people's names to the storyline.
I was mentioned. :) Taffey, Jeff, Domik. I think there was more.... Saleri was a planet. :D I was thinking something about mentioning people's names in Solid Journey, but I didn't...
The ending of the level was great. I enjoyed this level very much and will be looking forward to the whole series.
To end this all, I gave you 5 stars :star::star::star::star::star:, of coarse, and a heart for this level.

Until we meet again,
-Spark

Woo-hoo! I've been waiting for my first feedback for the published final version of the level, so thanks for pulling through for me B3 :-)

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Wow! A dramatic story scene! Sweet! Cool story too...

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I'm glad to hear that you thought that there was a good back story. Diving into this back story will be the basis for future levels, so it would suck if it wasn't intriguing.

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you weren't kidding when you said after Shallow Springs you'd kick it up a notch, they all look great.

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This is GREAT to hear :-)

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Love the smoke from the sleep chamber. Back down the cool elevator.

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It sounds like you went and got the side missions right off the bat, which is exactly what I was hoping for :-) I did a pretty bad job of explaining the side missions in the beta version, so that is one thing that Taffey and Jeff struggled with. It's very encouraging that you figured it out right away.

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Huh, a captain named Jonze. Wonder where you got such an odd name? Leonard too? I swear, if there's not a Bill or Blue in here, I'm gonna be sad. SORA!?! Seriously? Spark. Taffey, Jeff. Ugh. Idk what to do at this point, after finding Phalasia.

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Well, I did warn you in this thread (using your name specifically) that this level left you out because I couldn't think of how to use it. I guess I could easily include Bill in the next one :-)

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I head up and jump in the elevator, and I'm stuck! No clue, but I broke your level.

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Hmm... this is disturbing. It's a bit too vague for me to understand what is going wrong. I just tried riding the elevator up and down about 10 times, and I cannot get it stuck. In fact, in all of the times that I have ever tested the level throughout the cycle of building it I haven't ever had it get stuck, and that elevator has had some serious issues with get out of alignment, but it still always got from top to bottom or bottom to top, it would just scrape. I have no idea why it would get stuck. It is at least good to hear that a retry would fix it, but I still hate to hear that there was an issue for you :-( Sorry about that!

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By this point, the cloud of speech over *JEFF's* head is enormous.

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LOL, in my defense, I actually went through the trouble of making the entire level so that all of the old text bubbles would go away. Once I was nearing completion, the level was maxing out, and for some reason I was having issues with having switches set off dissolve material. I don't know if I just had too many wires or what, but things weren't working. By this point the level was so maxed that I couldn't even publish (but I could save and play it), so I just gave up and deleted the wires that were supposed to make the dissolve disappear. So, long story short, I tried to make that dialog go away, but I failed due to the game not working correctly :-(

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Those tall rocks could have been wider, as I kept slipping off.

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This is where you were talking about the meteor. I meant to make that part a bit harder. I wanted that Enthalpium to be obvious, but a bit trickier to get.

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I don't have PS3 LBP, but I still get it. Good one.

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LOL, good!

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Time to find the third planet.

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Uh-oh! I tried to have Domik's dialog say specifically that there are 2 planets and a meteor just so you don't end up searching forever to find things that aren't there. I'm sorry that you were led to believe that there was a 3rd planet and a 2nd meteor :-( I had actually planned on having a 3rd planet and a moon, but the thermo wouldn't allow it. In the sequel I do not plan on having the space station, and all of that thermo space can be used on new planets (all of the planets were built on a quarter of the overall thermo! So without the space station taking up a lot of thermo, there can be a lot more to fly around to :))

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You know, it would be nice to just have a auto selector instead, I mean, just pull one switch to go side-to-side. These controls get tiring.

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LOL, it sounds like you want exactly what I had on Now and Then where you just flip a switch. I wanted to give the player something new and let them actually feel like they are exploring. I'm sorry that it felt tedious for you.

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Ok, missions cashed in, I'm headed for Phalsia!

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For some reason it made me really happy to hear you say this. For one, it showed that you knew exactly what you needed to do, and that is very encouraging. Secondly, it's just fun to hear that you think of it as "cashing in".


Thank you so much for taking the time to play the level. I'm sorry that you ran into the elevator problem (I just used the elevator another 10 or 15 times and still couldn't break it).

AMAZING LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant wait for part 2!!!! 5 stars and heart!!

Perfect timing for my PSP's online to mess up... I eager to give this a go!

You are always excellent at giving great feedback soon after I publish Spark! Thanks so much!

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I thought the level was awesome. As I saw the "In Memory of Destiny" picture I thought it looked cool. After I went back to talk to Admiral Domik, (Nice touch) I looked at the "In Memory of Destiny" picture again. Then I noticed something. I thought "How did you make that scene look 3D like?" I mean, on the right side its on the back layer. The left side is on the front layer.
Then the planet is in between the two layers. You made it look like the ship revolved around the planet. As I looked closer, the left side was really in the back layer, and the ship alone was in the front.
You confused my mind for a moment. You made that scene 3D.

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I'm very happy to hear that you paid so much attention to that, because I tried very hard to make it look neat since it sort of the central idea of the entire level (the destruction of Destiny which led to the Destiny2 project).

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Fantastic characters too. Forgot to mention, your sticker work was BOMB. It was very awesome sticker work.
You made cool creatures with simple stickers. Fantastic usage of work there.

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I'm excited to hear this since one of the biggest complaints about all of my previous levels (other than A Dingo Down Under) was that the characters were just boring Sackboys. I said that for this one I would go all out, so the sackboys (Jeff and Taffey characters) are both carefully made, the aliens were all made with various stickers, and though I used the space-man, I tried to be conservative and only use him where it made sense.

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What was best was the part with controlling the ship. No one on the psp has pulled that off.
Well, I kind of, but it wasn't the same. You know how I used the Fog Visor in Solid Journey? I was thinking of doing something like that for more puzzles, but I didn't.

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I'm glad that you thought that that was the best part, because that was sort of the main mechanic that got me wanting to build the level in the first place. I built Destiny2, the flying mechanic, and the start of the planet Salieri so that you could land on it just so that I could make sure that I could actually pull off the things that I wanted to do with the level before I took a break to work on A Dingo Down Under. I knew I would be coming back to this, because I was (and am) really excited about the mechanic :D

I was already hard at work on then when I played Solid Journey, and I was actually pretty worried that you were going to do something like this when I saw the visor. I was very relieved when you didn't! I was also worried that Salieri was going to do something like it with his Star Wars level when I read the description about flying around, but his was completely different. Both of your levels were AWESOME, but they just used much different mechanics than this one did.

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The storyline was good and it became interesting. Collecting those (I forgot the word) things that gave you more time to live through heat. That was an Amazing idea to do.

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I was especially excited about using this idea because it sort of makes it so the level is based around a timed run through Phalaina, but it is up to the player to decide how long they will have. A really good player could complete Phalaina without doing any of the side missions, or by doing the side missions but collecting none of the Enthalpium, but if someone just wanted to see everything in the level, or they wanted to have an easy run at the end, they can collect everything and then there is no pressure :-)

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A nice touch to the level was the fact that you added people's names to the storyline.
I was mentioned. Taffey, Jeff, Domik. I think there was more.... Saleri was a planet. I was thinking something about mentioning people's names in Solid Journey, but I didn't...

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I'm glad that you liked that. I actually did this with a PS3 level of mine a long time ago (LBL#3), and I had a great time doing it once again. This level included you as well! Don't forget about that! You are the important guy that helps people get down to the planets and also teleports them up right before they die! The level includes references to Jeffcu28, Taffey, Corey, Phalaina, Salieri, Spark151, Lleonard_Pler, CyberSora, and VelcroJonze. Like I said in my original post, I hope to make sequels to this level, and include other forum members to those in special ways (and obviously, Spark, Jeff, Taffey, Lleonard, and VelcroJonze will still be in it since they are major characters on Destiny2).

Best level yet poo! Keep it up! :D

Man, I am doing terrible keeping up with feedback. I actually thought I was going to double post with my feedback to B3 and then my feedback to Spark, but I ended up having two posts between them.

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AMAZING LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant wait for part 2!!!! 5 stars and heart!!

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Thank you so much for checking the level out, and I'm very happy to hear that you liked it! :D


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Perfect timing for my PSP's online to mess up... I eager to give this a go!

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Well bummer, I'm sorry to hear that you are having issues :-( I was not only having issues with publishing the BETA earlier today, I was also having trouble downloading levels to try and leave feedback, so I feel your pain.


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Best level yet poo! Keep it up!

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Thanks so much! I'm very happy to hear that you liked it!

Wow, AFP, this level is absolutely amazing! The sticker work and corner editing is incredible. That Destiny statue is particularly lovely. :) What I was really blown away by here was the mechanics- steering the ship to dock at different planets, then the little escape pod dropping to a different one depending on where the ship was "pointed"... the ingenuity blows my mind! I loved the side missions and the mission tracker, never seen anything quite like that before either. The characters were awesome, and I love that you used names of people in LBP PSP community! Running around gathering all that spacerock stuff was cool too, and how it changes the amount of time you have on the hot planet was just... amazing! Totally novel (in my experience :D)

I am absolutely amazed by this piece of work, AFP, easy 5 stars and a heart! This is definitely my favorite story-type level from you so far! I can't wait for part 2 :)

Sounds great! I can't wait to give it a go!

Also can't wait for a sequel! :D

Well I played your level and it was amazing. No lag what - so - ever! :D I'll have to give you my full feedback later. I'm working on a video project for school :P And it will be my longest feedback ever, trust me.

P.S. I will always use the word "Amazing" in my feedbacks for your levels.

Heck Yes! I am always worried about waking up on the morning after I publish a level because I am scared that there will be a slew of complaints about the level or someone will say that it had a major break (I had to republish both A Dingo Down Under and Shallow Springs multiple times), so it makes me very happy that things are going well for you guys!


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What I was really blown away by here was the mechanics- steering the ship to dock at different planets, then the little escape pod dropping to a different one depending on where the ship was "pointed"... the ingenuity blows my mind!

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I'm so glad that you liked it, and I'm still a little surprised that it all works correctly. With all of the bugs that are in the game, and all the problems that I experienced while building this level, it's hard to believe that the entire "Go to Planet-Go to Drop Ship- Drop Planet Side-Explore-Go Back to Ship-Fly Somewhere Else" mechanic ended up working as well as it did. But the great news is that now that it is all built, it will be very easy to implement into a sequel!

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I loved the side missions and the mission tracker, never seen anything quite like that before either.

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I'm glad you enjoyed this. I was worried that all of the stickers that went into the mission descriptions would have taken up too much tech, but things worked out alright and I am very happy with the end result :-)

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The characters were awesome, and I love that you used names of people in LBP PSP community!

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I had a lot of fun including people's names. For those of us that know the people on the forums, it almost gives us a bit more personality for the character :-D

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Running around gathering all that spacerock stuff was cool too, and how it changes the amount of time you have on the hot planet was just... amazing!

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I'm very glad that this was fun for you. On the Beta version that Jeff and Taffey played, the Enthalpium was not as obvious, and the side missions were much more hidden (and I did not make it obvious that you would get Enthalpium if you did the side missions). On top of all of that, the Enthalpium added a lot lot less time to the amount of time that you could survive on Phalaina (around 1/2 to 2/3). So, the level was basically so hard that it was irritating. I owe them a lot of thanks for fighting through the level and giving me incredibly helpful feedback so that the level could be a lot more playable.

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I can't wait for part 2

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Good! Because I would love to make part 2 ;)


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Sounds great! I can't wait to give it a go!

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Thanks :-) I'd love to hear some feedback if you ever get the chance :D



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Also can't wait for a sequel!

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Like I told SeekingTruth, I'm excited to make one. The hardest part was building the mechanics for the ship, and that is already built :D


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No lag what - so - ever!

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Woo-hoo! I am so happy for this. I'm seriously not sure why there is no lag since the level is very tech heavy, but I am thankful for the lack of lag!

Good luck with your video!


Thanks so much to everyone for the replies!

I have been out of town for a couple day's with no access to internet and I got home today and found out you published a new level. I was so happy. When I play one of your levels for the first time it's a surreal experience for me, you make such good levels. I waited until everyone went to sleep and turned on my psp and started you new level.

Dingo Down Under was a departure from your regular style but you nailed it and ended up making one of the best platformers on psp. This is a return to your rpg roots, and honestly I think this is the best rpg you have ever made. This level took me around twenty to thirty minutes to complete because I wanted to see everything and talk to everyone, your dialogue is always so good. The references to the members of this forum was very classy on your part, and I feel honored to be included in the story, so thank you so much. :D

Technically, this level was a showcase of all your talents. Your use of of the lbp tools to tell your stories is second to none. You are the best story teller in lbp. Visually this was a treat too. I loved how the space station looked, with the people you could talk too, the fountains, and the statue of the original Destiny was gorgeous. Exploring your universe was a blast, and you nailed the controls perfectly for the ship.

The level worked great too, I had no problems what so ever.This was another awesome level bro. :)

You always get a heart and five stars from me!! :cool:

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When I play one of your levels for the first time it's a surreal experience for me, you make such good levels. I waited until everyone went to sleep and turned on my psp and started you new level.

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Wow, VelcroJonze, thanks for that. That was a Super Nice thing to say, and one of the nicest things anyone has said about my levels :-) Much appreciated!

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This is a return to your rpg roots, and honestly I think this is the best rpg you have ever made.

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Woo-Hoo! It's great to hear that you feel this way!

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This level took me around twenty to thirty minutes to complete because I wanted to see everything and talk to everyone, your dialogue is always so good.

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It's good to hear that you did that, and that you WANTED to! In the version that I had planned on publishing (and that I had Taffey and Jeff test), I basically forced the player to do at least one of the side missions in order to be able to reach the Fate technology. Taffey and Jeff both didn't like the way that that worked so well, so I switched the timing around on Phalaina so that you could reach the Fate technology by collecting all of the Enthalpium on the planet/meteor, but doing none of the side missions. This way, if the player wanted more to do then it is there (and it is displayed on the missions log with Lleonard), but if they just want a shorter experience then they can easily just collect the Enthalpium from the Meteor and Salieri and try to reach the technology with that. It also provides a bit more challenge to try to reach the technology with as little Enthalpium as possible. It would have been fun to add point bubbles for reaching it will less and less Enthalpium, but I just didn't have thermo for that.

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The references to the members of this forum was very classy on your part, and I feel honored to be included in the story, so thank you so much.

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I was glad that I could include you :-) It was a lot of fun including members from the forum!

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Exploring your universe was a blast, and you nailed the controls perfectly for the ship.

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I'm glad to hear it! I know that getting used to the controls can take a minute, but I hoped that they would feel natural pretty quickly :D

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The level worked great too, I had no problems what so ever.

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That's what I like to hear ;)

Thanks so much for the awesome feedback VelcroJonze!

Awesome new level!! I loved it. And you using LBPC names was rather amusing, yet fitted perfectly. I felt like I was playing ratchet and clank or sthing. I did have issues w/ flying the spaceship tho. i think instead of the way you had it you could have gone for three way switches. Anyways really unique level with some very nice mechanics (emitting magic mouths am i right?) and very nice atmosphere

obviously 5stars and a heart

Hoopty Doo Poo,

Whoa whoa whoa. Hold your horses. You thought that last PM was my feedback? Hehe. I had more to say than that! Oh well, I guess I can share with everybody what I intended to say on my official feedback.:)

I read over at Fastbro's blog about how you're constantly looking to revolutionize LBP, and with each subsequent level you publish, you seem to be doing just that. Each great creator is innovative in some way, but I feel each of them clings to his or her signature style. You however, seem to have single-handedly pioneered the open-world genre on the PSP by consistently showing us its limitless possibilities. I like how you never shy away from realizing the impossible, and I hope you inspire others to do the same...after you share with us your secrets first that is!;)

Okay so you gave us time-traveling, a multi-ending story, peel-away reveals, and now we have a spaceship hub. I really like the idea of navigating around an open-world (make that open-universe!) with a checklist in hand. It gives the player more control, but there's still a defined mission to complete. And of course, having characters named after some familiar creators added a nice personal touch. :D

I know I had problems with the "side-missions" during the beta test, but I didn't hate it. The problem is that they aren't technically "side-missions" if one of them was necessary to complete in order to finish the level. I remember reading something about meeting others before trekking off to the universe, but it wasn't obvious at first, and after I boarded Destiny 2, I simply assumed that I triggered all the events in the Space Station already. My bad.

However, I did like the changes you made with the final version. The side-tasks were presented more obviously, particularly with the clarification of the checklist: how the tasks on the left side were optional while those on the right side were obligatory. I hadn't realized that organization at first, but now it makes a whole lot more sense. I also wanted to suggest clarifying the instructions for the drop-ship, but you already have that covered.

You fixed my issues, so where does that leave us? I guess it's perfect then. :D I loved your character designs this time around--I even had to whip out my sticker tool to figure out which stickers you used! The memorial and entrance to Destiny 2 were also meticulously detailed, and I was glad to see those signature trees (circular leaves and skinny branches wrapped in vines FTW!) again in this level. They really tie all your levels together nicely in a subtle yet significant way.

Wow, all this and I didn't mention the Enthalpium mechanism yet? I still have no idea how that works, but I guess that's part of the magic of your level. Funny thing is that during the beta test, I made it across the grab-ceiling and reached the entrance of the cave, only to meet the heat wave. Little did I know that I was so close to end! Hehe. Oh, and Enthalpium...Enthalpy...you thought nobody could draw that connection did you? See, I can be a mechanical engineer too! :)

Well, fantastic job on another level Poo. You're always raising the bar when it comes to possibilities, and I'm sure your unprecedented game mechanics will inspire others to also think out-of-the-box. This is easily one of my favorite PSP levels of all time, so I hope you continue with the series...


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P.S. Lleonard has two "L"s ;).

Thanks for all of the feedback Jeff and ali! I am going to dive right into responses :)

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Awesome new level!! I loved it. And you using LBPC names was rather amusing, yet fitted perfectly.

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Thanks ali! I'm glad to hear that you liked it :) As for the names, I enjoyed using them. I have wanted to do this, but I wanted to do it for a series of levels so I could keep using the names, so this was the perfect time :) BTW, who would have thought that Phalaina and Salieri would make such AWESOME planet names ;)

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I did have issues w/ flying the spaceship tho. i think instead of the way you had it you could have gone for three way switches.

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Uh-oh! You said so little here, but for me to reply I need to say sooo much! So... shall I get started?

While flying the ship around may seem rather simple in theory, there were MANY intricacies that I ended up needing to add that I never thought of when I was designing the level my head. Initially, I thought of using two 3-way switches as well, but once I began building I realized that that is not possible.

The issue is that for the level to really work, the ship actually needs to sort of "lock-on" to the planet when you point at it. You may not have noticed this happening when you played the level, but when you are flying around and you point near a planet/meteor/space station, the ship won't move for 3 to 5 seconds. This gives the player the chance to decide to either stop at that planet, or to keep flying around without having the ship jump all around (which happens when you let go of the controls) or accidentally moving it further.

This, among other issues, is what led to me having the controls be the way they are. Trust me, there is A LOT of tech and thought that went into the whole Flying-the-Ship part of the level. Perhaps there is a better way to do it all, but this is my favorite method that I came up with, and I rebuilt it a number of times.

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Anyways really unique level with some very nice mechanics (emitting magic mouths am i right?) and very nice atmosphere

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Some of the magic mouths were emitted, and some were just setting around all over the place. The ones that were emitted were the ones that I needed to have show up over and over again (like when Spark beams you up "before" you die, or when Jeff tells you what planet you are hovering over after Domik tells you that you can fly wherever you want).

Thanks so much for the feedback ali!


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You are now free to move about the cabin,
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LOL! I love this!!!!

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Whoa whoa whoa. Hold your horses. You thought that last PM was my feedback? Hehe. I had more to say than that! Oh well, I guess I can share with everybody what I intended to say on my official feedback.

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I'll admit that I was hoping for more since your last message was sort of "Man, this level is awesome... but help me because I can't finish!!!". Obviously it was longer than that and much much more helpful than that message would have been (and in Jeff's defense, Taffey had the same issues that Jeff had, so it wasn't that Jeff was stupid, but rather that I did a bad job designing some things before the two of them came along and guided me on the right path).

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I read over at Fastbro's blog about how you're constantly looking to revolutionize LBP, and with each subsequent level you publish, you seem to be doing just that. Each great creator is innovative in some way, but I feel each of them clings to his or her signature style. You however, seem to have single-handedly pioneered the open-world genre on the PSP by consistently showing us its limitless possibilities. I like how you never shy away from realizing the impossible, and I hope you inspire others to do the same...after you share with us your secrets first that is!

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Wow, thanks so much for the ridiculously nice things you said. I must admit that I don't feel deserving of the praise though! I had a great time being interviewed by Fastbro, and I am very grateful that he picked me :D

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I know I had problems with the "side-missions" during the beta test, but I didn't hate it. The problem is that they aren't technically "side-missions" if one of them was necessary to complete in order to finish the level. I remember reading something about meeting others before trekking of to the universe, but it wasn't obvious at first, and after I boarded Destiny 2, I simply assumed that I triggered all the events in the Space Station already. My bad.

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Nope, I wouldn't say that it was your bad at all. Neither you or Taffey figured out that you needed to even get the side missions, and if I remember right, Taffey ended up wandering a lot at the end and just got lucky enough to run across Corey to get the extra 4 seconds that he needed to finish Phalaina. I would have to classify this under "Poo's Bad", not "Jeff's Bad". You and Taffey seriously helped me make a world of difference with just about 4 extra sentences of dialog that were sprinkled throughout random characters. It managed to clear up so much :)

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I loved your character designs this time around--I even had to whip out my sticker tool to figure out which stickers you used!

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YES! This is great to hear. I remember that one of your major complaints about Shallow Springs was about the characters (and I had many other people complain as well). I'm very glad that I managed to craft some aliens that looked interesting enough that you had to pull out the sticker tool to figure out how they were made :-) I must admit, it is much easier to make a custom alien than it is to make a custom sackboy (that actually looks good) though :)

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I was glad to see those signature trees (circular leaves and skinny branches wrapped in vines FTW!) again in this level. They really tie all your levels together nicely in a subtle yet significant way.

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It made me happy to read this :-) I was glad to have the trees once again :)

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Wow, all this and I didn't mention the Enthalpium mechanism yet? I still have no idea how that works, but I guess that's part of the magic of your level. Funny thing is that during the beta test, I made it across the grab-ceiling and reached the entrance of the cave, only to meet the heat wave. Little did I know that I was so close to end! Hehe. Oh, and Enthalpium...Enthalpy...you thought nobody could draw that connection did you? See, I can be a mechanical engineer too!

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WOW! You made it across the ceiling!! Didn't you say that you only got 2 Enthalpium from Salieri, 1 from Spark on the ship, and one from the meteor (so you were missing one from Salieri as well as all of the side missions)? Perhaps you meant to say that you had 3 from Salieri, but if you were really missing one from Salieri and all of the side missions then you are INCREDIBLE to have even made it to the cave! I guess that even if you had it all and didn't do the side missions it is still pretty incredible because I built it and I struggled at it! ;) Either way, I'm glad that you voiced you opinion about the difficulty of this part if you don't do the side missions, because I think that it led to a lot of improvement for the level!

As for Enthalpium --> Enthalpy, you are 100% correct! I was trying to come up with something that sounded like an element, and I started thinking about heat which naturally lead me to Enthalpy (wouldn't it naturally lead anyone to Enthalpy?... Right???). Nice catch! It's great to hear that someone got that :)

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Uh-oh... hopefully he will forgive me!


Thanks so much for the feedback Jeff! You incredible help with Beta feedback and then this feedback couldn't be more appreciated :-)

Oh yea i see now. Its impressive how u did it anyways!

yea the repeating magic mouths were a nice touch. i really hadnt thought of doing that before so good job!

oh yea i ran a nice "lets kill amazingflyingpoo's level" and i found a couple of bugs. The elevator one mentioned before and a pod bug. i went in the pod thing but for some reason i ended up on the top of it which left me unable to escape and i had to restart

Hello Poo,

I loved the story telling as I start the level. As I start, I get out of my sleeping chamber and move on. But, I noticed a second chamber, so I was thinking something was in there. Then I head to the elevator, but I noticed "Corey." I talked to him, and right there, I notice I had to go back to him later. I head downstairs and go right. I talk to Admiral "Domik" and he gives me my mission! :D

I head to my left and talk to some friendly and well made characters. The first one told me that someone in the other chamber needed help, so I went up and talked to her. Now, I have a side mission to find "Sora"!, and guess what?, he's on a meteor. I'm glad that there are cool side missions. Then I went to "Corey" again and get his mission to find 'Dark Matter' I assume that's an item from PS3?

Now I go back down and go through the awesome doors to my left. "Pshhh", the doors open and I walk across to "Destiny2." Now I meet the guy in charge of the air-lock and his name is, ohhhh I forgot! Darn it. Next I meet "Lleonard" my missions director. I look at all the missions and proceed on. Then I finally meet, "Taffey"! and the pilot "Jeff"!

Now I learn how to fly this baby! Very confusing at first, but I got it. I first find the planet "Phalaina", I noticed that the name was familiar. Then, I remembered the "Moflee" entry for the "YWMTMW", and there you have it another member from LBPC. I use the drop pod, completely ignoring "Jeff's" advice, and I land and "BAM!" I teleport back up.

Next, I go to the meteor that "Sora" is on. He says he's fine, and I almost missed the Enthalpium on the ledge. Now, I travel to the planet "Salieri", and its a jungle! I imagined it to be a techy planet in the case that it's named after "Salieri". So I grab the Enthalpium and open the door to the 'Dark Matter'. I head back to the lobby and gave "Corey" the dark matter and informed *Sue* about "Sora".

I head back to Phalaina and star running for the "Fate" technology, before another heat wave. I retrieved it and completed the mission! And I am now waiting for Part 2!!! :D

I loved the use of LBPC members as characters. The story is very "Amazing" as the level is also. I did have a problems with the drop pod and elevator. I used the elevator to head down and I end up on top of it. I retried and continued safely. The drop pod, I headed back up from the meteor and I jumped! Then, I flew out of the stage and saw the blank background. It's okay though, I mean who would jump at a point like that?

I'm wondering how did you do the Enthalpium timer, for the heat on Phalaina. Very clever mechanics you have in this level.

Here's my rating :star::star::star::star::star: and a heart.....and a few more stars just for the fun of it :star::star::star::star::star:

EDIT: Congratulations! You have received my longest and greatest feedback so far! :D :D :D :D

Yeah! More feedback :D

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oh yea i ran a nice "lets kill amazingflyingpoo's level" and i found a couple of bugs. The elevator one mentioned before and a pod bug. i went in the pod thing but for some reason i ended up on the top of it which left me unable to escape and i had to restart

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Man, it sounds like my level is doing all kinds of interesting and unintended things that I wish it wasn't doing. The thermo is so maxed out that the level won't let me do anything with it even if I delete stuff (I deleted about 5 blocks of material, 2 mag switches, a grab switch, a magic mouth, stickers, and a bunch of wires, and I STILL could connect a single wire up to anything! So trying to fix an issue would be a MAJOR pain.

As for the elevator... I have no idea what is going on. I went through the trouble to have that glass move in front just to make sure that there are no issues, so WHY in the world is this happening? I just don't understand. I have used that elevator literally hundreds of times in my testing, and not ONCE have I had a single issue with it... Grrr.... Oh well, I'm sorry about the issue. In all honesty, I'm not sure what I would even do to fix it since I'm not sure what went wrong (and I've never experienced it for myself). Hopefully it didn't hurt your experience too much.

LOL, as for the Pod... I have no excuse. I actually tried messing around up there, but all I ever managed to do was kill myself, and I had to really try to even do that.

Thanks for breaking my level ali ;)


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Thanks so much for the write up telling about your whole experience. It's good to hear your thought process so that I can see that you understand what you were supposed to do in the levels (mainly regarding the side missions). Thanks so much for writing all of that up for me!

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I did have a problems with the drop pod and elevator. I used the elevator to head down and I end up on top of it. I retried and continued safely. The drop pod, I headed back up from the meteor and I jumped! Then, I flew out of the stage and saw the blank background. It's okay though, I mean who would jump at a point like that?

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Hmmm... I'm sorry about the problems that you experienced. I already wrote a lot about it in this post just above my reply to you, but like I said there, I have no idea why the elevator problem is happening. I put extra tech in place just to make the glass keep you in the elevator, so it is irritating that people are having so many problems with it. Especially since I have ridden the elevator hundreds of times while testing it and I have never had a problem :( I wonder if the level is loading wrong or something...

That is sure an interesting issue with jumping out of the level from the drop ship. There is nothing I can really do about that, but congrats at finding a way to literally jump through thick solid walls to get out!

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Congratulations! You have received my longest and greatest feedback so far! :D :D :D :D

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HECK YES! I got 4 TheNerd heads!

ur welcome:) but srsly they arent too major. especially since its rly hard to actually screw them up!

When I started playing the level, I only knew two things: the title, and that you had created it. Your levels are always very special and unique, and I didn't want to spoil the surprise by reading the description or checking screenshots.

I was happy to see a refreshing environment from you: space. Very different from your previous levels, and that is a good thing. In the first rooms, I also noticed that you opted for a more realistic approach (even if the characters are still funny), very fitting given the story. Then I started exploring the mothership. Like I said, I didn't really know what to expect from this level. After speaking with every character in the base, I was very curious. This looked like a kind of RPG set in space. But how was I supposed to explore the space?

Then I went to the spaceship and I was happy to find a missions and sidequests scoreboard. But then I was stunned by the navigation interface. What a great, intuitive device you created. When I started exploring the space and picking my first destinations, I couldn't believe my eyes. This is a true masterpiece of level design.

I admire how you always find unique solutions to keep pushing the gameplay of your levels. You really are the most innovative, experimental creator in all LBP PSP, and I feel like all your levels are lessons that every other creator must play and learn from. The Community should be very proud of having a creator like you that keeps demonstrating how powerful the LBP PSP editor is.

You know that I always give honest feedback. I've been wondering for 5-10 minutes what flaws should I point out from this level, but I can't think of any. Saying that it's too short wouldn't be fair: there are so many wonders packed into this level, that obviously you couldn't fit more without the thermo exploding. So I just want to ask a favor: make "Destiny: Part 2". I need more missions and sidequests.

5 stars and hearted. Everyone: go play this level.

PS: Thanks for including me in the level, I was very happy to see it! ^___^

Hey AFP! I've tried your level. It's great! It's awesome. You get an absorbing fealing, when you play the level. And when get into the space, you really want to go explore everything. Nice that there were a lot of different quests to do. It's kind of amazing that this is a PSP level.. It almost feels like a PS3 level, and there's no lag. Really good.

I like how you used names from the community. It was pretty nice. I'm very much looking forward to the sequel. It would be great. I can't really say more things, that haven't been said before.

Yes! Feedback from my good friend ghik and the legendary Lleonard_Pler!


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Getting feedback from you is always great since you have created some of my favorite levels, but this time it was even better since you went into it knowing nothing and I got to see how you experience the level with no prior knowledge about it :D

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But then I was stunned by the navigation interface. What a great, intuitive device you created. When I started exploring the space and picking my first destinations, I couldn't believe my eyes. This is a true masterpiece of level design.

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Wow, thanks so much Leonard :-) I am so glad to hear that you liked the mechanic!

You were so nice that I felt bad even quoting that last comment, and I would feel bad to quote any more, so all I can say is thank you so much for the very encouraging words Lleonard. You are certainly one of my favorite creators, so it is awesome to hear this from you!

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So I just want to ask a favor: make "Destiny: Part 2". I need more missions and sidequests.

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Sure thing :D


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You get an absorbing fealing, when you play the level. And when get into the space, you really want to go explore everything.

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It's awesome that you felt this way. What I really wanted was for people to feel like you described when they realized that they could actually control where they fly and understood what they could do :)

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It almost feels like a PS3 level, and there's no lag.

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I'm still surprised that there is no lag :-) I guess that I still have a lot to learn about what causes lag.


Thanks so much for the feedback!

Wow! Thats the only word i can think of to describe this awsome level! The character desighn is unique and a real pleasure to play through! The mechanisms actually look quite tricky to make but they worked amazingly! I for one would never be able to make something like that actually work! The Visuals in the station were pristine and expertly made. The drop ship confused me for a bit but after i understood what the guy was saying I managed to figure it out. I loved the way that you explore space and can go to each place individually without having to go to them in order! I thought that the last planet could have been a bit more polished and there could have been mmore of a background to it.
Overall, an excellent level! :star::star::star::star::star: and a Heart!

Hidy Ho The Forgotten! I don't know if I have had a chance to personally congratulate you on you win in the WDSD competition (well... I guess I did post on your level thread), so congratulations!

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The character desighn is unique and a real pleasure to play through!

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This is so great to hear! On all of my previous levels (other than A Dingo Down Under), people have been relatively unanimous on being unhappy with the characters. It's great to hear that you liked the character design for Destiny!

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The drop ship confused me for a bit but after i understood what the guy was saying I managed to figure it out.

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Sorry that it confused you, but it is encouraging that the dialog cleared it all up!

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I thought that the last planet could have been a bit more polished and there could have been mmore of a background to it.

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I can actually agree with you that it feels a little empty in the background. It would have made sense to actually have a set background now that you mention it... LOL, it really sucks that I am thinking of this now :-P Oh well, I'll hope that it isn't too big of a deal. I usually avoid pre-set backgrounds because I want to force myself to be creative but in the case of this level I am completely out of thermo (can't place a square of material or a single sticker), so setting a background would have been a good solution that somehow alluded me until now.

Thanks so much for the feedback!

Looks good I can't wait to try this out.

I really cannot explain how amazed I am by this level. I suppose that's why you're not just an average flying poo.

The plot is fantastic. I especially liked how you made it seem like your universe had a really rich and detailed history with only relatively little introductory text, and of course the way the story unfolded throughout the course of the level was totally unlike anything else that's been done.

I think sometimes that being a creator onesself is a bit of a curse. I actually found myself spending most of my time going through this level wondering how you did stuff instead of properly paying attention to what I was doing, which really is to do this level a great disservice.

So, let's talk about the technically impressive things:

Navigating the ship - this is really extraordinary and innovative. Ok, the controls are a bit funky at times but that is so easy to overlook when you take into consideration what an acheivement this aspect of the level actually is.

Side-quests - I really, REALLY liked this, I just love side quests. I had originally intended to have a couple in my latest level, but as you have already seen I went a bit over the top with architectural detail and basically thermo-ed that plan out of existence. I would not, however, have come anywhere near the ingenuity of your awesome quest tracker.

Salieri - Best planet.

I can't believe how long this level took me to finish. It's a PSP level, how DARE you make one that lasts this long?

As is cutomary, I ought to give some slightly more critical feedback, and here I think the only thing would be that with so many speech bubbles, the ship's bridge and a couple of other areas soon got very cluttered with triangle icons, which were a bit off-putting and and distracted from your excellent visuals.

That's about all I can think of, there's too much to remember. I will of course have to play it several times over anyway.

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Thanks so much for the feedback Salieri! It's awesome to hear that you really liked it :-)

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I think sometimes that being a creator onesself is a bit of a curse. I actually found myself spending most of my time going through this level wondering how you did stuff instead of properly paying attention to what I was doing.

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LOL, I can certainly agree with this.

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Navigating the ship - this is really extraordinary and innovative. Ok, the controls are a bit funky at times but that is so easy to overlook when you take into consideration what an acheivement this aspect of the level actually is.

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Yeah, I really didn't like certain aspects of the ship flying, and I'm 100% sure that someone could easily make a bridge where you can fly around and have a much better set up, but the catch is that you need to also implement everything else into it. I tried all kinds of things (having a tethered jetpack and pulling a sponge around to control, using two 3-way switches, etc...), and the way I have it just seemed to work best.

Like I told ali in an earlier post, there are things that you just don't really notice that took a lot of thought and really factored into the way it worked. The case I told him about was that I needed the ship to sort of lock onto a planet once you started pointing at it. I didn't want Jeff to start saying "Would you like to land on Salieri", just to have the player be pulling to the left and end up pointing away from it, have the player run to the right and not be able to use the drop ship, and then have a confused mess.

It all seems simple, but when you consider the logistics of it it is a mess. I mean, if one thing goes wrong, the player could immediately assume the level is broken, and there are plenty of things that can go wrong.

LOL, sorry about all of that explaining, I know you weren't accusing me of doing a bad job :) I just wanted to dive into that a little since I put so much into driving the ship around, and it's too bad that people think that it is funky.

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Side-quests - I really, REALLY liked this, I just love side quests. I had originally intended to have a couple in my latest level, but as you have already seen I went a bit over the top with architectural detail and basically thermo-ed that plan out of existence. I would not, however, have come anywhere near the ingenuity of your awesome quest tracker.

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I thought that Curses! was great the way that it is. I am glad that you didn't sacrifice you incredible scenery for side-missions.

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Salieri - Best planet.

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I can't believe how long this level took me to finish. It's a PSP level, how DARE you make one that lasts this long?

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LOL, I've gotten such mixed feedback on the length that I just have to laugh. I have had multiple people say that it is a bit short, and also multiple people say that it is long. Both sets of people include people that I take very seriously so I guess I just have to smile and pretend that it will all be alright... *rocks back and forth in fetal position mumbling that it will all be alright*

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As is cutomary, I ought to give some slightly more critical feedback, and here I think the only thing would be that with so many speech bubbles, the ship's bridge and a couple of other areas soon got very cluttered with triangle icons, which were a bit off-putting and and distracted from your excellent visuals.

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Yeah.. about that... I was very unhappy with all of the triangles that were left floating around in Shallow Springs, so I was bound and determined to get rid of all of them in this one. I mean, I was going to get rid of every single used up dialog bubble. So I had all of the tech in place, everything was wired up to make them disappear when they were supposed to be, but as the thermo filled up more and more, they seemed to be less and less dependable. Jeff's dialog wasn't the only that failed me, some of Domik's quit disappearing as well :( I have no idea why this is. I got the thermo so full that the level refused to even publish, so maybe I somehow overstuffed it? LOL, I'm making silly speculations, so I will just leave it at "I'm sorry Salieri, I actually put the time into adding the tech to make it disappear, but the game let me down".

Thanks so much for the feedback Salieri, and congrats on your new awesome level!

Pure fantamazing! It needs a new word to get close to describing this level. I've only hearted about 5 levels of the 50 I've downloaded, and your's is one of them! This level is amazing mainly because of Destiny2 and it's ability to "travel to different planets. I could not even imagine building something even remotely close to this!

Although when I first found Sora, I was suprised he didn't turn villain and try to attack me.

But I had trouble finding the 2nd planet. All I found was the meteor and Salieri.

I was a little dissapointed there wasn't a planet Silver. ;) Just kidding, it looks like I will have to try a lot harder to get into Club Destiny though.

One question, are you going to retain traveling to different planets via Destiny2 in the series?

This looks good, in fact, it is my Destiny to play this level. :D