Chinatown's Bear-Shaped Problem *(SPOTLIGHTED)* *(LBW6 WINNER)"

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Originally Posted by Richasackboy

Well, I don't think your level can get disqualified by inadequacy.

I'm just gonna say one thing right off the bat here: It was kinda tense.
I'm gonna try to be absolutely bat-you-into-the-ground honest, and say everything that peeves me about this level.

- Fire. There is too much lethality in this level, and that takes away from how good it is, BECAUSE it feels much less like a vacation.
- Repetitiveness. There was too much of the same thing in this level, and that's another thing that I don't like. I kept swinging on orange sponge circles, and going on coveyor belts. That gameplay was cool, but it really was just too much of the same thing. I don't like that in a level, as it just takes away from it's enjoyability. I got bored of going through same old same old after about 2 and a half minutes. By the end of it I was aching for a change, and it just didn't come. =/
- Originality. Not too much of it. I saw those fire rollers, and I thought that that bit must've been almost entirely done by compher. It was less complicated than Roller Inc., but it still looked a bit like a clone.
- As I read from the contest details, it said holiday/vacation. Everyone thought "Oh. A holiday like new year or easter or christmas?" StevenI replied with the answer that he meant holiday as in vacation. You seem to have focused on Chinese New Year, less than a vacation. The panda was still cool. Also, fire doesn't really embody a vacation to me.
- Argh. The story. The story was pretty bad actually. I had no idea why everything was on fire, even though the guy had said something about chinese new year being ruined, I couldn't notice anything about a kung fu master or anything. It was very rough, and why was the panda saying something about a bamboo cage? I couldn't see anything in the first speech bubble about that.

Other than that it was pretty okay. Boss was cool, but I didn't get how the flying dragons were linked to the kungfu master coming down and a gun appearing.
I gave it 1 star and a tag of horrible. :p
Just kidding. 4 stars, and I'm not sure about a heart.

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-About fire: I do agree. It sure looks very hazardous. I guess that that's what we get for tying to do a challenging level. Fire was necessary, I guess.
-We tried to stick to more or less the same gameplay elements in the level, and keep elaborating on them. I personally (personally!) like it that way, since I think it gives some consistency to the level; I always liked levels that take a few gameplay elements and build its whole gameplay by adding twists and changes to them.
-Oh, hey, I hadnt thought of the Roller Inc comparision either. And no, that wasnt done by compher. What compher did was barge into the level like a madman (I swear that the "kick out" feature doesnt work on him somehow), take a look at my original, unprecedented and mischevious logic and shout "That is not as efficient as it could be!" while spitting saliva all around. Then, he proceeded to re-invent the logic while also burying my already low self-esteem into the darkest metaphorical pit.
-I can see why you dont like the fire in the vacation context, but I'm afraid that neither plasma or electricity didnt work, let the gas alone. Spike would have been interesting, but they just arent versatile enough. And c'mon, LBP is about randomness! Do things really need to make sense?ç
-Oh, well, we sticked to the typical LBP story. "Hey, you, random sackperson, help us and risk your life for no reward at all by getting certain thing back/defeating evil guy" I believe that even Mm did that. I believe, though, that the speech bubbles are clumsily written, though. I guess that that's the result of having two creators flying around and changing the text whenever they felt like without telling the other one. I admit it, I did it!

Glad to see you liked the boss, though. And they were supposed to be Chinese rockets (lol at the linked picture), and so was that "gun" you mentioned. And, c'mon, how can you not see the links between kung fu and chinse rockets that look like chinsese dragons? In my twisted mind it all makes sense! Now, where is my medication..?

Thanks for thee comprehensive feedback!

Pandawesomness!
Lol I think anything else has already been said :D
Pandawesome Look, Pandawesome Gameplay, Pandawesome Boss and the most Pandawesome score board at the end!

I think I fell in love. Definately a shoe-in!

WOW!!! in my opinion this is one of the best levels out till the date. Keep it up!

A very nicely created level. Some great gameplay ideas stuck in there and beautiful design. I played with 3 others and I have to say the moving roller part was very very challenging. Also I thought the boss was a little hectic and finished slightly early.

Still 5 stars and hearted based on design and some unique gameplay elements.

Okay, it's getting a bit late in France, I'm very tired and I can barely keep my eyes open...but I had to post something in this thread !

Honestly, I've played a lot of asian levels, and I wasn't too eager to play it when I saw the pictures for the first time.

My bad. This is one of the most enjoyable level I've ever played. I'm not keen on asian story mode levels, but I was very delighted to see how much your level was different. Your sceneries are way more detailed, realistic and pleasant.
Let's talk about gameplay. I think that's what I loved the most. Such clever and ingenious obstacles... ! I didn't think I'd find another level as smart as this one after playing Aperture Science. I had given up. It's way different than those Jump-Grab-Jump levels I am to play sometimes...

And the boss battle... Wow, one of my favorite boss in this game. I don't really know why, defeating him isn't that hard, but it's really enjoyable. I liked it a lot ^^

Well... That's all :)

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Originally Posted by TOBSn08

Pandawesomness!
Lol I think anything else has already been said :D
Pandawesome Look, Pandawesome Gameplay, Pandawesome Boss and the most Pandawesome score board at the end!

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Hey, thanks mate! Pandawesome thanks for your compliments, too. See you around!

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Originally Posted by bonner123

I think I fell in love. Definately a shoe-in!

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I'm afraid I also fell in love! Though I wouldnt be sure of the shoe-in thing, I'd give it a toe-in at most; there are some incredibly amazing entries there, one of them being yours, definetely.

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Originally Posted by ferrrch

WOW!!! in my opinion this is one of the best levels out till the date. Keep it up!

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Thanks! Was there enough wooden platforms for your taste? ;)

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Originally Posted by ladylyn1

A very nicely created level. Some great gameplay ideas stuck in there and beautiful design. I played with 3 others and I have to say the moving roller part was very very challenging. Also I thought the boss was a little hectic and finished slightly early.

Still 5 stars and hearted based on design and some unique gameplay elements.

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Thanks for the feedback! And yup, the roller section can be very challenging, specially if combined with a slap fight. And yes, I'm talking out of experience here. Also, good point. The boss is both hectic and CAN be short; keep in mind that you can miss him when shooting that rocket. Anyways, when working on my next boss, those are issues I'll try to avoid, thanks for pointing them out. Glad to see that overall great creators are liking this!

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Originally Posted by Oddmania

Okay, it's getting a bit late in France, I'm very tired and I can barely keep my eyes open...but I had to post something in this thread !

Honestly, I've played a lot of asian levels, and I wasn't too eager to play it when I saw the pictures for the first time.

My bad. This is one of the most enjoyable level I've ever played. I'm not keen on asian story mode levels, but I was very delighted to see how much your level was different. Your sceneries are way more detailed, realistic and pleasant.
Let's talk about gameplay. I think that's what I loved the most. Such clever and ingenious obstacles... ! I didn't think I'd find another level as smart as this one after playing Aperture Science. I had given up. It's way different than those Jump-Grab-Jump levels I am to play sometimes...

And the boss battle... Wow, one of my favorite boss in this game. I don't really know why, defeating him isn't that hard, but it's really enjoyable. I liked it a lot ^^

Well... That's all :)

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You know, after nice comments like this one, I cant help it but to remember that the actual reason why we built this lvl wasn't the contest at all; it was to just have fun (Hol prefers building gameplay over scenery and I'm just the other way round, so we formed a nice team) and to recieve comments that make you feel al fuzzy and warm inside. Glad to hear that you liked the visuals, since that was kinda my thing, along with the boss (on which comph decided to help). About the gameplay, I'm afraid you'll have to congratulate Hol, though!
Really happy that you liked it that much.

Also, I can't wait for beyond good and evil 2.

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Originally Posted by Keldur

You know, after nice comments like this one, I cant help it but to remember that the actual reason why we built this lvl wasn't the contest at all; it was to just have fun (Hol prefers building gameplay over scenery and I'm just the other way round, so we formed a nice team) and to recieve comments that make you feel al fuzzy and warm inside. Glad to hear that you liked the visuals, since that was kinda my thing, along with the boss (on which comph decided to help). About the gameplay, I'm afraid you'll have to congratulate Hol, though!
Really happy that you liked it that much.

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You're welcome, thank you, my friends and I had a good time yesterday with this level (3 players, and I didn't manage to make lag ! :mad: ) , you're definitely an excellent team, I hope you'll make some other levels together :)

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Also, I can't wait for beyond good and evil 2.

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Who can ? :p

Fantastic level! I loved pretty much everything about it. The character design was great and the gameplay... oh my the gameplay! Incredible!

One thing that I did find a bit odd was the life meter on the final boss. While it was nice to know that I was doing damage, it looked out of place to me. Maybe something like Chinese lanterns that go out as you inflict damage would fit the theme better.

That's a small nitpick though for an otherwise outstanding level! Marry me!

Brilliant level here! I am kinda obsessed with pandas in my LBP at the moment so you can say I enjoyed the premise here.. a lot! I thought visually it was superb and fit the theme perfectly. It felt exactly like something I might expect to come on the disc the quality was that good. :) Lots of great platforming and with a couple of friends it was crazy fun. We all had a blast and for that :star::star::star::star::star: + <3

:D

Best of luck in the comp guys!

I do not like the use of the PotC music for the boss (Just didn't seem to fit). And, the boss itself was too easy. That's my honest opinions lol.

Wow! 0.0 Great level!

Positives:
1. Great color choices
2. Clean polished visuals
3. Wonderful, unique platforming and puzzles
4. Serpent Shrine-esque rolling fireballs were really neat
5. The zipline section was ingenious
6. I thought it was a great story, myself
7. The boss was amazing
8. The panda scoreboard was cute
9. Simply fun


Negatives:
1. It was over too soon... :(

:star::star::star::star::star: and <3

Great job, Holguin and Keldur :)

- Great colour choices. Some of the best I have seen.
- Visuals were nice, I liked the little tower/checkpoints and stuff like that.
- I liked the conveyor belts and zipline the best. Second playthrough, I found it quite difficult to get onto the first right angle piece. Perhaps that is where the kids quit?
- Good thing you put the life meter on the boss, as I didn't know I was doing the right thing until I noticed it. Took me a few attempts to hit him.
- I felt the ending was rather weak based on the greatness of what came previous.
- Looks as good as a MM level, but I felt there were too many point bubbles compared to the story levels, if you were going for that.
- I'm also a big believer in clear direction, but I think you can get rid of those arrows.
- Oh and the heart tattoo on the panda at the end ruined it. Well, not really, I just don't think it matched the tone of the level.

I was tough and gave it 4 stars.
Good luck in the comp. :)

You've made it into the spotlight, congratulations, of all levels this one definitely deserved it!

:)

Yeah, congrats on the spotlight. :)

Also, I think you two should make another co-op level. You two made a great team and a great level. :p

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Originally Posted by midnight_heist

- I liked the conveyor belts and zipline the best. Second playthrough, I found it quite difficult to get onto the first right angle piece. Perhaps that is where the kids quit?

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Yeah, I had doubts about that. I might go in pretty soon and lower the speed of those right angle pieces. It's very tricky in that place with two players as well, you have to get a run-up.

Wow!! What a great level you have made here. It simply is gorgeous. The paltforming is some of the best I have ever played, and I have played them all. I have always enjoyed your levels, and I think this is your best yet. :)

Congrats on the spotlight, I gave you five stars and a heart. <3

My ps3 psn is not VelcroJonze, it's samiamiamsam.

Remember it wasn't just me who worked on this though, Keldur was a co-creator too, putting in some awesome visuals (and one of the best NPCs I've seen in LBP :p), although I'm sure you knew that already :)

EDIT: I decided not to change the speed of those right-angled pieces in the zipline section as it actually made it harder to move between them, as the rotation is slower and doesn't give the zipper-thing that much momentum.

Ive played through this level atleast 3-4 times straight and couldn't find a problem with it. Everything was just unique. My favorite obstacles were the ones with the ceiling was moving. That was just genius by you and keldur. I mean everything was well constructed. The only problem I saw was in the room where there are 5 platforms moving in different directions. When you trying to exit the room theres a wall sticking down from the ceiling. Sometimes that gets in the way of the jump to the layer to move forward. But its minor. Probably me being picky :D. Also I thought the boss was a little easy. I think it wouldve been better with a random sequence but thats me being picky again. Overall I think this level is perfect the way it is. You two make a very good team. Hope Y'all make more together.

Well if you two aren't busy and is still doing F4F, could you check out my level Kinetic Crisis? The link is in my sig.

Outstanding level. The level design is jaw-dropping the way the stickers are well decorated and the gameplay is top notch. The boss battle is great but for some reason his arm fell off when I miss-fired the rocket. Overall this level deserves 5 stars and a heart.

Play and F4F "The Hero Chronicles LV4 The Lost Lagoon" if you can.