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I'm sure there's loads of levels that have been deleted for obvious reasons such as any sexually explicit levels or far too much adult content. But what are the criteria for a level getting the mods on it? What about a level all about the Christian Hell, Dante's Inferno style. Or a co-op level based on the Columbine shootings? Levels that just have a slighter darker or macabre humor. Have there been any 9/11 related levels? Are they still up?
It varies case by case.
Popularity is certainly a huge factor. If a level is more popular, there is a greater chance of moderation.
What are you planning on doing? That would help me answer your question.
I once made a level that took 10 seconds to finish and the only thing in the level was a butt that would defecate on you when you ran under it. It got a huge response from people and then BAM! gone.
Naughty no-nos (sexual scenes and material that might be upsetting) are near certain to be banned, but sometimes its hard to tell why things were moderated, for example, I had two levels moderated, one was an online storage level (back from when there were loads of saving glitches) and an untitled level that I don't know what it contained (as both these levels were lost in a save bug I think)
And yes, I've seen a 9/11 level on youtube. I doubt it's still up.
Moved to everything else.
You can easily get away with hell, depending on exactly how you choose to depict it. A "co-op level based on the Columbine shootings" distinctly falls into the category of distasteful things that certainly doesn't belong in a child-friendly game....
The whole moderation system revolves around the good-griefing of content anyway, if you upset enough people with your content, then it's gonna get modded....
If you're asking because you want to make stuff like this, I have a tip for you; Don't.
Making a level based on a mass murder is just sick, especially if the person just made it for the 'lolz'.
Any level you make can get moderated, it seems pretty random.
Technically it's anything that breaks the End User Licence Agreement (EULA), which basically boils down to anything innapropiate for a minimum age of 7. Swearing (though it get's filtered anyway), sexual or violent scenes or anything you wouldn't deem suitable for a 7 year old.
But yeah, they won't find out unless it's good griefed, and it's funny how easily offended people are when a level get's popular.
I've deleted a few posts including an example that showed that the in-game moderation system works, but it wasn't an appropriate topic to be discussing here (at least not in a "lol, I did this" kind of way) and things were already starting to turn ugly.
Geez, this forum is really sensitive. Kind of like a funeral director...
I would hardly say it's random. There are lots of little "grey" lines to be crossed, however. Don't confuse discernible (or even mildly questionable) content with randomness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jrange378
No I agree. Also don't assume that it is good grief that gets you noticed either. Mm I would imagine has a group of people cruising out there looking and judging what is appropriate and what is not. My feeling is that if it's questionable then they check the game-play and that is the determining factor whether it stays or goes because that level I mentioned above got moderated, but I made another that involved the same prop ( the Butt ) with a truck carrying explosives and you had to dodge them from attacking you with their powers. NOT MODDED. Same juvenile prop, but an actual level you can play.Quote:
Originally Posted by schm0
We have been told this is what happens....Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLA_TODDZILLA
They don't. Also, just think about how many levels are published, and how big this imaginary team would have to be....?Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLA_TODDZILLA
OK, some vaguely sound logic here, except maybe the case is that people are less likely to good-grief questionable content if there is no gameplay - which is equally sound logic and fits better with what we've been told....Quote:
My feeling is that if it's questionable then they check the game-play and that is the determining factor whether it stays or goes because that level I mentioned above got moderated, but I made another that involved the same prop ( the Butt ) with a truck carrying explosives and you had to dodge them from attacking you with their powers. NOT MODDED. Same juvenile prop, but an actual level you can play.
a pooing bum will go by more unnoticed amongst actual gameplay elements, when you just put a pooing bum on its own it seems gratuitous
i have a guy in a torture chamber have a saw lowered through his chest and an infinite stream of blood flies out, i think that might be against the rules but it has 13k plays. then again most people are surprisingly tolerant of gore and murder, a lot of them being the same people who would brandish you pervert hitler if you were to show them a picture of a body in its natural form. I find that "ultra violence good, human body bad" mentality fascinating.
I dont think it's bad to have some gore/brutality in a community level, however, I do have a problem when they advertise it inappropriately to attract my 4 year old daughter. It's a family game and I would prefer it to be clean, but I understand the need to want to make a COD version, but perhaps a simple statement in the description specifying its towards a mature audience would help clear it up.
For anyone wanting to duplicate 9/11 or the Columbine Massacre is just ridiculous and should go get psychological help immediately. I don't find that remotely funny by any means. There was one level on yes, LBP, that the goal was to go shoot as many kids as possible and it said to 'quickly play it before its removed'.....I just don't understand. :(
And really, how difficult is to abide by the rules??? :confused:
So KUDOS to our very own Moderators here at LBPCentral.com for doing a fantastic job in keeping this place a good, safe and reliable source for anything LBP. It's where I go to find what levels to play with my family.
So thank you! :star::star::star::star::star: <3
There's no random. This game is "auto moderated". The way it works is that when a level reaches a secret amount of "good grief", it's locked and sent in a moderation queue for review by Sony and MM. So anything that would offend people or play with the law can get moderated anytime. Something someone might get moderated.
In short, it's better to walk with the butt tight. You can slip very easily it seems. This also of the game's rating (E for everyone in NA) and think about what can and cannot fit with this category.
Seems like I was the one assuming since I had no Idea Mm told anybody any of their operations ( not saying they didn't either) . So if Mm's Moderation protocols are so available, why are there no links to them in this thread ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rtm223
I agree with the fella with the 4 year old that if your level is less than E for Everyone material or just a bit questionable you should advertise it as such. My level with the gore is called "Torment (warning very scary)" with a screenshot of a floating babies head with spooky lighting as the level icon. People who choose to play it after seeing the icon and title are probably prepared for a few red paint stickers and some red paint balls emitting from a sponge mans chest springing it on someone seems a bit tactless though and may 'grief' certain people.
I wouldn't say they're so 'available'. There are just people here who know Mm and have asked. There are also cases of people here who have contacted Sony directly about some level vandalism that went on a while ago where some joker was uploading inappropriate pictures to peoples' levels and it was dealt with by Sony (they identified the culprit and I believe his psn account was banned). But there's not an actual post anywhere to link this to that I'm aware of. rtm223 might know of one...Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLA_TODDZILLA
As far as inappropriate content goes - yes, I agree with the idea that people with adult themes in their creations should be required to forewarn players. My children play LBP and there are some levels out there I wouldn't want them playing. There's enough sick stuff in the real world without having it infiltrate what should be entertainment.
You also have to bear in mind that some people good grief a level based on creative jealousy. I've heard of levels that have been removed in the "auto moderation" process, pending Sony's investigation, but were later reinstated when nothing was found to be inappropriate.
It's certainly considerate of you to warn them, but keep in mind that Mm has given no provisions for "acceptable" mature content. The bottom line is that anything that couldn't be considered E for Everyone doesn't belong in this game. That said, I've never used the good grief function myself, and if your level doesn't get taken down, then I guess it must be ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanyC-SeanyDo
I actually included a blood splat in one of my levels: the player gets shot and a little spurt of blood (tiny red leds) is supposed to shoot out behind them. For some reason, it doesn't emit (it's probably blocked by something), but I never bothered to fix it 'cuz I was never sure if I could get away with having it.