Rtm explained how to do this on the Beta Forum somewhere. IIRC you need you set your timer's input to Speed, and then do a sum of all the possible healing inputs and subtract from that the sum of all possible damage inputs. This way, when there's two damage sources, their values will be summed and result in a negative speed on the timer, causing it to drop faster. Likewise, a healing source will oppose a damage source, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linque
^ Hmmm, that makes sense actually. I'll try to implement it tonight.
And now that I've had some time away from GT5, I've put in some decent work into the enemy AI so that they react accordingly to the different attack strengths. I've also thrown in some work with the combo counter so that it's a simplified version of Devil May Cry's combo counter, including the wacky combo descriptions as well. I've personally gotten up to a 40 hit combo thanks to the "devil arm" grab that cancels and continues a combo string. So good. =)
I'll post a vid when things get a little more finalized and hopefully the demo level before I leave for England on vacation on the 15th.
Man, I hope I make it into the Beta during the incoming phase just so I can play C.E.C
btw for your AI do you use randomizers so they react in different ways?
If you were to implement that it could make the AI less predictable, and make it require more skill, since you would have to be ready for anything that may happen...
Of course the best players would memorize how many ways the enemy may react, but it's not like you could stop them.
I have stuff set up for that depending on the type of enemy. Randomizing the AI routines is fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomeh999
C.E.C. sounds and looks epic! Just seeing this alone makes me excited for LBP2!
Will there be any secret locations in the game to help create the sense of adventure?
Maybe, maybe not. If I didn't have to push 4 players, then that would be the case. I'm trying to push more enemies than in the first CEC, to include a mini-boss/boss in each level. We'll see. I've also made it so that it isn't checkpoint dependent, meaning you spawn where you die. Dunno if I want you to switch classes after death though. That should open up some space to mess around with as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomeh999
Knowing that you will make this great for multiplayer, do you plan to make anything that gives multiple players special perks?
Example: Team Attacks, Special Support Actions (Heal, ect.)
I have. It's just a matter of exactly how I want to implement them, i.e. stronger magic attacks when two mages are in close vicinity, two knights clashing swords creates an AoE attack, when a mage and knight do their charge attacks together whirlwinds encircle them. That kind of stuff. ^^ Healing can be done by all the classes, but they will cost a lot of points and the strength of the heal will be determined by the class.
I'm pretty much starting from scratch with the classes to incorporate several things I've picked up since CEC was made, so it'll be fun making the characters more lively. You'll see a lot of the stuff I am working on in Fist of Craft Earth applied in CEC, but adjusted accordingly so that it still feels the same.
Well, I don't have any suggestions/questions for now, so for now Good Luck!
Mr.Circle Man--> ('o')<(Yay! he finally shut up! Rawr!)
If I understand this correctly, you could do it like the classic TMNT Arcade beat em ups. When you get a game over you can choose a different turtle to fight with :DQuote:
Originally Posted by donkey show
That's actually a great way to put it. Considering there will be several multi-class attacks, the players can choose to strategically "die" in the event they're getting outgunned by a particular enemy. But of course, there will be a score penalty for dying, which should retroactively make you lose level-ups... assuming it works the way I want it to.Quote:
Originally Posted by iKyle94
to me score isn't everything..if you want to make a penalty..it should be something players FEEL...like yeah the loss of powerups and maybe some other stuff
Well, the score will be directly tied into what you can and can't do, such as healing and what not. The score represents your EXP in a way. You lose your EXP due to dying or healing, you end up losing your levels. Risk vs Reward in a sense. Assuming this works, lets say it takes about 10,000 to level up your character. Player crosses that threshold and basically becomes stronger. But he ends up fighting a boss that's thrashing him around and is about to die. Healing 3 hearts without any pickups costs 2,500 points. Does the player forego their level-up to gain more health or does the player risk it and try to beat the boss faster with their leveled-up self? I want it so that score is not just another number, but like a second lifebar that allows you certain rewards for either adding or subtracting from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowcrazy
Also, I just refined the combo system in Fist and tweaked some of the attacks to make them more combo-friendly. It's really fun going for the high combos as it gives you some pretty hefty points. =D
sounds good and hope this points system works as it could open doors to more then just this RPG project
Just now thought about it, will there be a World Map, err, or An Overworld (for all of you Mario Peoples) in which each level can be selected?
Also, what about Game Saving? Sticker Wise, or Save Codes? Considering its a bummer things would get messy if you could return to it Mid Game from your Pod. :p
I dunno. It depends on how old-school I feel, but I'm currently leaning towards just jumping right into the next level like back in the days. No room for rest in this game. =PQuote:
Originally Posted by DaSackBoy
You'll have unlimited lives though, but that might change as well. We'll see. If I did make an overworld and allowed you to go back to levels previously played, I want there to be a reason you'd go back, thermo-willing.
And I just thought up of some more ways to use the "devil arm" outside of just pulling in enemies and using it for puzzles. >=D
let me guess...a mode of transportation...lol
('o')<(RAWR! I have returned!)
Be quiet Mr.Circleman
Anyway...
('o')<(RAWR! How dare you tell me to be quiet!)
Have you thought up anyway to make every character work with that new combo system? (If your using it)
And I just thought of the fun idea!
('o')<(RAWR! It was I who thought of the awesome idea of world domination!)
...
Well...
Warning this idea is completely stupid and will probably never be considered to be used in-game.
It's...
/Drumroll
Devil Arm High Fives!
/Audience Boos
/Leaves Stage Crying
/Mr.Circleman enters stage
I would, but it would make dashing moot. =(Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowcrazy
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomeh999
I do want to add one more special attack outside of the ones already shown that requires stock to use. Dunno what I'll do though. From there, I can actually start building the demo level. xD
I'm not going to use the combo meter in CEC though as I'm not building the characters in the same way I am with Fist.
Expect Zombie Sharks with bombs attached to them. :O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1sQ_EbDgeg
A few more attacks will be added. Enjoy. =)