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Yeah, the respawn is instant now - which creates its own issue: I spawn right on top of enemies that kill me. Honeyhead Grizzly killed me when I tried to late jump him, and then killed me a few times more as I spawned on top of his backflip. Also, it killed me at the end eject, which it's never done before; don't know if the timing is off now or something else... [edit] Mm, also again, the camera zooms in on the ninja when you drop the Spitsquids on the bridge, and then has trouble zooming out.
I LOVE these kind of games! I liked the premise, the execution is nice, but I feel the gameplay still needs some finetuning.
-sometimes the camera does not show enough of the screen to avoid deaths. Almost at the start when I am forced to jump some platforms, some birds are offscreen and I jumped right into them. If enemies exist above me, the screen should show them.
-when I push left and the left stick is not entirely to the left the ninja moves right instead.
-i killed a lot of enemies ofscreen, maybe give the shuricans a little logic so I cant kill enemies while they are ofscreen?
- the fishes are a bit slow moving on the bridge. Could you speed them up a bit?
-the dragon sequence had the left of the screen showling a green wall with enemies emitted on screen. Was this intentional? It looks a little sloppy.
-after the dragon bit, i died lots of times by fire coming from above I had no time to avoid.
-the boss I had to kill via reflecting shot did not attack at all and the shuricans dont make it if keep the fire button pressed. Maybe up the amount of shuricans whgich can be onscreen? Could you give him some attacks?
-the last boss had a few spots I had to shoot that were ofscreen. Is he supposed to go up and down?
-maybe animate the ninja a bit? Perhaps make him a sackbot or animate him using holorams?
This might sound all very negative. I just want to help because I really liked this level, but feel its just a little unfinished yet.
F4F is you feel like it, my level is in my signature. My level is a platform/shooter as well, so I'm hoping you will like it! :)
hey it was fun to play your level :)
the idea is great and as far as i can say everything worked fine.
There was a variation in gameplay because of the different sections which is always good to have.
My favourite part was the dragon ride, really liked it :)
Two things i would suggest though:
- it was hard to beat the dogs and all the birds which appeared at the beginning, maybe make the dogs a bit weaker or change the amount of birds spawning
- the last boss had two weakpoints that were off-screen, you should make them visible
All in all it was very enjoyable so keep it up :)
Thanks much for the feedback, guys.
Hmm, I didn't realize there were still that many issues in the level. And it sounds like a lot of them are camera issues, ugh. I HATE camera issues. Camera issues were the hardest thing about making this level. Looks like I need to head back to the shop and see what I can do about some of these, but I dunno how much more of a headache I'm willing to give myself lol. I definitely appreciate every suggestion tho.
You shouldn't see a green wall on the dragon sequence; that sounds like another camera-related bug I gotta fix.
Oh, and I have an idea for the controls. Maybe if I allow both the L-stick AND R-stick to aim?
edit: Went ahead and implemented.
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This is baffling me. All I did was hook the controllinator output to a directional mover. I don't understand why it's making the ninja move right instead of left when you tap left lightly :( Could it have something to do with friction settings??Quote:
-when I push left and the left stick is not entirely to the left the ninja moves right instead.
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Actually, the signal wasn't going directly to the mover. It was going through an AND gate, and that apparently was causing the glitch. Don't ask me why. I've fixed this problem and some of the other issues.
Kanada Ten:
I don't know what else I can do about about respawn deaths, but since you have unlimited lives and now respawn immediately, it should only be a problem if you're trying to ace the level, so let me instead tell you something you're not supposed to know:
[spoiler]When respawning you can jump before your feet have touched the ground[/spoiler]
I've also increased the movement speed while jumping so it should be easier to jump over Honeyhead Grizzly.
To counter instant death traps I gave my sackbot 5 seconds of invulnerability in my level. I think this will benefit you as well!
Simply place a tag on your Ninja. Place some logic on your spawnpoint with a tagsensor which turns on a timer for 5 seconds when the tag is NOT present (in other words, the ninja is killed). The next logix should turn of the kill-triggers for 5 seconds but still kill the enemies when they touch the ninja. For bosses you should just turn of their deathtouch.
^ I do have something similar to that in place. The problem was a couple specific bosses where you can land on top of them after respawning and die if you don't get off them cleanly, which depending on the position of the checkpoint and the enemy at the time of your respawn can be a little iffy. But I don't think it happens often and you do get unlimited lives so I'm not too concerned about it.
Well, its your level and you should do as you see fit, but I don't think people will like dying a few times in a row because of this, even when they have unlimited lives...
I could be wrong but I don't think they're dying a few times in a row..
But you know, you gotta make decisions on how best to spend your time. I've already devoted a large amount of time to addressing respawn problems and quite a lot of that was because of bugs that weren't my fault. My patience has limits (especially when the level is not being played by the community at large).
Yeah I can understand you feeling bitter about the lacks of plays.
-Here are some things you could try: add a better discription in your levelname: I think a lot of people don't know what to expect from your levelname alone. Something like ( a platform shooter) would help a great deal.
-add more pictures, only one picture doesn't help you sell your level.
-listen to critique: this one is very important: i made a long list with improvemets, but you hardly did anything to adress them.
-F4F a lot! You can also try other levels and give feedback. If they have F4F in theur name there's is a very good chance they will return the favor.
-make a new level! use the knowledge from this level to make an even better level and promote it! The more good levels you have the more likely people will play them! Dont give up just because one level does not get a lot of plays!
I'm not bitter. Thanks to the LBPC community this is the most played level I've ever made lol. And I don't think you have any idea how much F4F I've done.
Adding that information to the description is not a bad idea, but isn't that what tags are for? If the "Shooter" tag doesn't convey that a level is a "Shooter" then I'm not sure what the point of tags is.
Eh? I did listen to your critique on the day you gave it and spent that day updating the level. Here, I'll go through your list:
Because the automatic scrolling system allows free non-automatic vertical movement, this is a difficult issue to address. The best I can think of is try not to have too many enemies fly overhead. I reduced the number of birds in the beginning, and removed one particular cheap bird that used to fly in from the right side and drop rocks.Quote:
-sometimes the camera does not show enough of the screen to avoid deaths. Almost at the start when I am forced to jump some platforms, some birds are offscreen and I jumped right into them. If enemies exist above me, the screen should show them.
Fixed. (although I still don't understand why the AND gates were behaving that way)Quote:
-when I push left and the left stick is not entirely to the left the ninja moves right instead.
Shuriken logic is a good idea and I'll probably add it later, but I think the only enemies that die off screen now are birds, which can be killed very fast, so if I wanted to eliminate the problem completely I would almost have to make them spawn on-screen. I did discover a bug I had overlooked in the bridge part where there are a few spitsquids that were dying before the player ever sees them.Quote:
-i killed a lot of enemies ofscreen, maybe give the shuricans a little logic so I cant kill enemies while they are ofscreen?
I doubled their speed.Quote:
- the fishes are a bit slow moving on the bridge. Could you speed them up a bit?
I wasn't able to figure out what you meant by this. I looked through the level and there aren't any green walls. Did you mean grey walls? Were they in the upper left part of the screen? Was it before or after clouds started appearing?Quote:
-the dragon sequence had the left of the screen showling a green wall with enemies emitted on screen. Was this intentional? It looks a little sloppy.
Can't do much about this. I sunk hours into trying to make the camera work better in this particular sequence and in the end I just couldn't improve it. Again, it's a problem that comes with the horizontal scrolling being automatic while the vertical scrolling is free. I guess I could give the fire more anti-gravity so that it falls slower.Quote:
-after the dragon bit, i died lots of times by fire coming from above I had no time to avoid.
I doubled the number of shuriken that can be on screen.Quote:
-the boss I had to kill via reflecting shot did not attack at all and the shuricans dont make it if keep the fire button pressed. Maybe up the amount of shuricans whgich can be onscreen?
He's not really supposed to be a traditional boss fight, but more like a puzzle. I was worried some players would have trouble figuring out that they need to kill him by ricocheting the shurikens so I didn't want there to be any other threats in that room.Quote:
Could you give him some attacks?
He doesn't move up and down. The two weak spots are visible if you jump up from the middle ledge (the ledge you enter from). You can partially see one of them as soon as you enter, so I don't think it's unfair. To get back up to the middle ledge from the bottom, you have to jump onto the punching arm, which might be a little tricky.Quote:
-the last boss had a few spots I had to shoot that were ofscreen. Is he supposed to go up and down?
That would require a major overhaul and imo would not necessarily be an improvement. Besides, I want to get back to doing your last piece of advice--making my next level :)Quote:
-maybe animate the ninja a bit? Perhaps make him a sackbot or animate him using holorams?
Good to know you changed those things, mate. I'll play it again soon :)
placing descritiontags in your name as well will help extra when players search on text, look at it on this forum, or just randomly find the name of your level, buts its not vital.