Minecraft

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Originally Posted by Dav1d0

You mistake morality for ignorance...

just because you can control that land doesn't mean that you should or have the right to. (1) I don't recall anyone else on the server trying to ban people from their land like you have... I know my tree city gets visited all the time... do I stop people... no... (2) because I don't own the land in any shape or form, it's a public space and so belongs to everyone.

"but what if people destroy my work or steal my stuff?" you may ask. Well that's different, they will have griefed and then the mods can take over and deal with he threat, but as long as they physically leave your structures / items alone you have no reason to complain.

anyway... it's pointless attempting to claim land as you have no way to police the territories claimed, (3) you can't be online all the time or stop every intruder.

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1) I have no right to bar visitors from my home? Explain the logic in that, please. Last I checked, if I don't want visitors I am allowed to keep them out.

2) Your city is a public place that you built for others to visit. My home is a private place for my cohort and I to live.

3) /res create KeepOutOfMyHouse
/res set move false
/res pset couchpotato27 move true

Tada.

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Originally Posted by Speedynutty68

1) I have no right to bar visitors from my home? Explain the logic in that, please. Last I checked, if I don't want visitors I am allowed to keep them out.

2) Your city is a public place that you built for others to visit. My home is a private place for my cohort and I to live.

3) /res create KeepOutOfMyHouse
/res set move false
/res pset couchpotato27 move true

Tada.

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1. because they are not travelling to your home voluntarily... they are getting stranded there by nether portal (as underworld portals are not created for each on the surface and do not return you to the original overworld portal unless it is the original one created) Essentially you enforcing this land rule is the same as punishing a person that has been taken hostage rather than the person who orchastrated it all. If you don't want people in your home then move your nether portal out of it.

2. I did not build my tree city to be public, I built it for me alone... but that doesn't mean that it isn't public as I did not own the territory to begin with and therefore have no more claim over it than everyone else... I will act if someone alters my city without my permission as I put work into it... but not simply in reaction to their presense there.

secondly... I originally built the city in the sky... so it's technically not taking up any land... except for a small box (6 blocks squared) at the base when I converted it into a tree...

3. well if they portal into your house / land and then have their movement disabled... you're not going to get rid of them very fast... why not just let them leave? or what's to stop someone using that command on your land and disabling you?

@Nys, yes that's my city, and yes it has a nether portal (like every other residence on the server), feel free to come up and visit... if we're both online at the same time someday, I'll even give you the obsidian you'll need to cover the cost of a portal... or anyother resource you might need (If I can spare it).

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Originally Posted by Speedynutty68

1) I have no right to bar visitors from my home? Explain the logic in that, please. Last I checked, if I don't want visitors I am allowed to keep them out.

2) Your city is a public place that you built for others to visit. My home is a private place for my cohort and I to live.

3) /res create KeepOutOfMyHouse
/res set move false
/res pset couchpotato27 move true

Tada.

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Whatever. As long as people can come out at your portal because nobody can have full control on which portal to come out and do not get the dogs released upon them immediately, I think it's reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Dav1d0

1. because they are not travelling to your home voluntarily... they are getting stranded there by nether portal (as underworld portals are not created for each on the surface and do not return you to the original overworld portal unless it is the original one created) Essentially you enforcing this land rule is the same as punishing a person that has been taken hostage rather than the person who orchastrated it all. If you don't want people in your home then move your nether portal out of it.

2. I did not build my tree city to be public, I built it for me alone... but that doesn't mean that it isn't public as I did not own the territory to begin with and therefore have no more claim over it than everyone else... I will act if someone alters my city without my permission as I put work into it... but not simply in reaction to their presense there.

secondly... I originally built the city in the sky... so it's technically not taking up any land... except for a small box (6 blocks squared) at the base when I converted it into a tree...

3. well if they portal into your house / land and then have their movement disabled... you're not going to get rid of them very fast... why not just let them leave? or what's to stop someone using that command on your land and disabling you?

@Nys, yes that's my city, and yes it has a nether portal (like every other residence on the server), feel free to come up and visit... if we're both online at the same time someday, I'll even give you the obsidian you'll need to cover the cost of a portal... or anyother resource you might need (If I can spare it).

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1) Not really my problem if the game decides that a portal that is over 200 blocks away doesn't require its own portal.

2) City implies public. Home implies private. Y u no understand?

3) They can teleport out. And if they can't move, they aren't too likely to stay very long.

Also, is your sense of "chivalry" (? For lack of a better word) getting ahead of you? My issue was originally with Mags. That issue has been resolved. Why do you continue to argue with me?

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Originally Posted by gdn001

Whatever. As long as people can come out at your portal because nobody can have full control on which portal to come out and do not get the dogs released upon them immediately, I think it's reasonable.

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In the coming days, I plan to build a large fortress around my portal since I have run out of things to do in the Overworld. Thus making my portal in the nether an extension of my house. Even though it already is.

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Originally Posted by Speedynutty68

If I claim land in the Nether, it is the same as claiming it in the Overworld. I can choose who is allowed on it, and who isn't. Could you please explain to me why you cannot wrap your head around this?

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What you nor anyone else has control over is where a nether portal takes you. If someone appears in your house, all they can do is LEAVE IT as quickly and as directly as possible. Should you facilitate that exit is up to you, but highly recommended if you don't want people staying in there for long. Your best bet? Make the portal outside your house.

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Originally Posted by Speedynutty68

3) /res create KeepOutOfMyHouse
/res set move false
/res pset couchpotato27 move true

Tada.

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I've disabled the set move flag, because it is an evil, evil flag. If for some reason it has become undisabled, and someone gets stuck in it, that person can type /res unstuck. But as I said, you need to facilitate the exit or move the portal outside.

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Originally Posted by Speedynutty68

1) Not really my problem if the game decides that a portal that is over 200 blocks away doesn't require its own portal.

2) City implies public. Home implies private. Y u no understand?

3) They can teleport out. And if they can't move, they aren't too likely to stay very long.

Also, is your sense of "chivalry" (? For lack of a better word) getting ahead of you? My issue was originally with Mags. That issue has been resolved. Why do you continue to argue with me?

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They can teleport many places, but people CHOOSE not to, and we allow them to do so. It's why I've been building the entire railway system.

It's less a sense of chivalry, and more being concerned for other players that gladly wish to stay out of your home, but cannot because your portal gravitates them to it.



So just to make that clear;

I will try to sort the portals out. If that does not work, you will have to facilitate the exit of players, OR move your nether portal to somewhere you don't mind people popping out.

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Originally Posted by Speedynutty68

1) Not really my problem if the game decides that a portal that is over 200 blocks away doesn't require its own portal.

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It's not really our fault either. We just want to visit the Nether without having to build a portal in the middle of nowhere.

Can't you just move your portal to outside your house like everyone else does?

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I haven't even tried to read the last few posts. Not gonna either.

1. You have a right to keep people out of your house.
2. House /= land. You can't keep people off of your land, so quit yer crying.
3. Nether/portals DO NOT COUNT as your land. That's like trying to claim the end. Unless you intend to build a house in the nether, where the same rules for the overworld apply.
4. I shouldn't have to repeat myself on this. Ever again.

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Originally Posted by nysudyrgh

MAGS, REMOVE YOUR SIGNS FROM MAI LAND NAO! :kz:

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I will. latorz. :kz:

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Originally Posted by Memodrix

TLDR;

I haven't even tried to read the last few posts. Not gonna either.

1. You have a right to keep people out of your house.
2. House /= land. You can't keep people off of your land, so quit yer crying.
3. Nether/portals DO NOT COUNT as your land. That's like trying to claim the end. Unless you intend to build a house in the nether, where the same rules for the overworld apply.
4. I shouldn't have to repeat myself on this. Ever again.

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*Ahem*

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Originally Posted by Speedynutty68

In the coming days, I plan to build a large fortress around my portal since I have run out of things to do in the Overworld. Thus making my portal in the nether an extension of my house. Even though it already is.

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Dramamamacentral.

I've shuffled around the nether portals after a few hours of painstaking work in the nether (God I hate Mojang for this). And now Your new portal links perfectly with your home. Mags', David's and Gameasertm's portals all also link up to their respective overworld portals.

If anyone makes any new portals that link to any of these,

a) I'm going to force lava so far down your throat that you poop obsidian,
b) both parties are going to have to get over it.


In other news, station W2 now has a subway underneath it, leading to CaveMan12345 and joeyjoeymc's island. Took me a long long time to make that and split it up into paste-able modules, cus WorldEdit throws a hissy fit whenever I try to paste any structure that is particularly long.

What's station W2?

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Originally Posted by SnipySev

What's station W2?

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at a guess i'd say 2nd station on the western route


thanks for the portal too, luckily for me mine leads right to another portal which leads to the place I get sand for glass... XD

also acts as a quick passage from the surface to my city.

So I have heard a rumor that we are getting a portal to the 1.0 world with the huge spawn. Is this true???

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Originally Posted by Weretigr

I've shuffled around the nether portals after a few hours of painstaking work in the nether (God I hate Mojang for this). And now Your new portal links perfectly with your home. Mags', David's and Gameasertm's portals all also link up to their respective overworld portals.

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Tried to say this earlier on the map but my messages wouldn't send...

Quick fix would be to use the Multiverse Portals teleportation to link nether portals having issues.

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Originally Posted by Speedynutty68

Tried to say this earlier on the map but my messages wouldn't send...

Quick fix would be to use the Multiverse Portals teleportation to link nether portals having issues.

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It crossed my mind, but MV Portals is still no more than a dev build at the moment, and I've been too busy and tired to deal with the hassle of installing and configuring MORE plugins.

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Originally Posted by totalpwner32

So I have heard a rumor that we are getting a portal to the 1.0 world with the huge spawn. Is this true???

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Only if Memo still has the backup, and is willing to do it. I don't think he does, though.

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Originally Posted by DominationMags

Only if Memo still has the backup, and is willing to do it. I don't think he does, though.

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Dangit. I was really hoping to get all my stuff from my house

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Originally Posted by totalpwner32

Dangit. I was really hoping to get all my stuff from my house

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If we add other worlds, you'll have a different inventory for each, so you can't just move across everything you hoarded.

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Originally Posted by Weretigr

If we add other worlds, you'll have a different inventory for each, so you can't just move across everything you hoarded.

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Still, pretty cool. two servers in one.