For me it will replace in creating. I cant create for hours on a big tv screen and it will be much easier to create with touch. And faster! But i will come back to LBP2, to play with my mates.
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For me it will replace in creating. I cant create for hours on a big tv screen and it will be much easier to create with touch. And faster! But i will come back to LBP2, to play with my mates.
This game definantly has the potential to replace LBP2, the problem is the VITA isn't selling too well (shame) so most people will just have to stick to LBP2. I am very excited, and there is enough people to have a big community, but in my opinion, the PS3 will always have a bigger one; it's already at over seven mission levels!
I will say no.
There is the potention to replace LBP2, because the LBPV is better in every way. But it will not happen due to sales of Vita and no level compatibility.
You have LBP2 on console with tens of milions of owners. And it has many many great levels made in last years.
Then you will have LBPV. Little bit better game. But on the platform, where 0,5 sold copies of a game is huge success. And with no levels online at all at the start. LBPV will be in a difficult situation.
I have to disagree. Having NO levels to begin with will make it more interesting. You'll get to watch the community grow and the new masters emerge in a clear field without the need to search and filter.
Just one thing: DON'T MAKE YOUR LEVEL COPYABLE
GribbleGrunger:
Yes. But it will be interesting just for the biggest fans like.
(I also love the idea that I can publish few levels with basically no competition :-D Should be much easier to get people to play it if you release one of the first levels.)
But mainstream players just wants to go to mm picks a first page of the cool levels. And they will always have more content in the LBP2. LBPV is awesome. But if we will measure success by the com community size, amount of good levels etc... I believe that LBP2 will still lead. The sales of the Vita are not so great to allow LBPV become bigger deal than LBP2. Unfortunately. The tools are there. But it will be missing the same size of player base :-/
Sorry, but I still disagree. 7 million levels is no indication of quality. LBPVita is essentially a LBP2 creators wet dream. You are likely to see more quality earlier on, and what's more, you will be able to find it quicker. For me, LBP2 was already cluttered with 3 million LBP1 levels, the last thing I would want is for LBPVita to be cluttered with 7 million levels. A fresh start is far more exciting in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by Agarwel
GribbleGrunger:
We will see. I agree that 7 millions level does not mean quality. And that Vita version is better in every way and creators wet dream. The new functions makes some tasks really easier to perform. (Just a Note possibilities or native add/multiple operations on analogue signal are awesome)
On there will be less players (dramatically) = less creators = less levels = even less of the really good and interesting ones :-/
I know, that the most hardcore creators will buy Vita just for LBP (I did it and Im not a close to be a good creator). But still - there were some great levels and ideas in LBP2 even from the" common folk". And lots of them will be missing in this version :-/
Also there is a risk, they wont be so motivated, when people wont play the levels so much. In LBP2 you have the possibilty to gain thousands of plays on your level. Im afraid this will not be the case of LBPV. So many creators will prefer to continue working on LBP2 where they can get level to more people.
I hope the LBPV will be huge success. But considering the sales of the HW and the SW.... I have huge doubts.
I dont agreed with this. There's alot of good creators that we will see in LBPV from the LBP2 community. And i can even check the LBP fan page for PS vita version on facebook, it looks like there's alot of people getting LBPV. So i dont agreed with this at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agarwel
In LBP2 you could gain thousands of plays, but you get that only if you spam the comments on every lvls. Otherwise, people dont even play the new levels. Many creators will move to LBPV, including Materialboy (Maybe), Prattz and other people, even me. lol.
Agarwel, please don't take my posts as an attack. They're just differing views:
You have also got to take into consideration that the Vita version is the culmination of three games (LBP1/LBP2/LBPPSP). All the knowledge from these games and all the missteps will have been noted and either transferred over or removed respectively. Then you have to also take into consideration that this version was partly gestated in the community itself. Many many LBP1/LBP2/LBPPSP creators had a direct influence on the finished game, contributing to its design and its new feature set.
With all these new features there will be hundreds of seasoned pros just chomping at the pit to get their hands on the Vita version and show us exactly what is possible. Yes, some may wait, but the more levels that are published with refined gameplay, the more the incentive to finally buy a Vita will grow. It would be nice for LBPVita to hit a hardware base bigger than 2.5 million, but I honestly don't think it matters just yet. Many people are crying out for great Vita games and because there are less than on the PS3, you will 'probably' see a bigger uptake of the game percentage wise. You can't just judge it on sales, you have to also take into consideration the percentage in relation to install base.
I also think that many people are actually very excited about having a fresh start and like I said, it's going to be fun watching the new masters emerge as well as watching what the well known geniuses will create. It will probably take longer for the established creators to make levels simply because their standards are now so high (a factor that needs to be taken into consideration when also viewing LBP2 IMO)
Yes. I completely understand both views. The LBPV is better. Best creators will have all the experience from the previous games. Etc. These reason could make LBPV much better.
On the other hand Im afraid that the sales will affect it. i just see the glass half-empty in this case. But I hope, Im really really wrong :-D
I actually dislike the glass half empty, glass half full analogy. It's been hijacked by materialists. It's much better to accept a smaller glass. Then the glass is always full. What's more, the size of the glass should be measured by reality, not expectationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Agarwel
That was deep Gribble. Oh my I've been here for almost a year more than you and yet you have about 2400 more posts than I do. LOLWUT I think the reason is that I've only been seriously active in the last 2 months or so...
What yugnar said.
Ok, let's also think about this:
When LBP1 hit the stores, I can remember myself seeing those commercials and adds about the game and thinking: "Oh great. Yet another unimaginative game for kids, with stupid platforming challenges and horrible story and design". LOLOLOL was I wrong!
So yeah, maybe LBPV won't have as much creators as LBP2 had in the start for example, but give it some time and I'm sure people will get to make a couple of million levels.
I do hope that Lbpv wont replace lbp2.
I'm still working on levels :(
what I'm curious about is if Mm picks in LBP2 will dissapear. °~°
They won't disappear because LBPVita will have it's own moderatorsQuote:
Originally Posted by shiro143
Plus, it would be unfair to only have creator picks on one game and not on the other.
Well the PSP side was completely abandoned by its Mods.Quote:
Originally Posted by amoney1999
I think that LPB on the Vita won't replace LBP on the PS3, because not that many people have the Vita, whereas a lot of people have the PS3, and don't need the Vita.
Those people are the most insane people I have ever heard of. I always wanted a Vita even when it was known as the NGP! I used to have a PSP, but it broke :(
i numbered which i would disagree on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agarwel
1. well A. they will be patient and B. im sure they did that when lbp2 first came out.
2. actully technically vita would have more content since you dlc costumes transfer to vita for free (which is lbp1,2,karting DLC costumes[probably cost if you don't own one of them])
also vita would have it's own dlc. since tarsier works on MOST lbp ps3 dlc costumes they would take more time on lbpv dlc since they made a better lbp game.
So... Gamestop has broken the street date. How awesome is that!? Well, not for me as now I'm in Mexico. Anyway, I'll rush to see if our videogame stores are as mad as Gamestop people XD!
Right as I learned I went to GameStop to get a copy. The story is super easy btw.
If I'm going to create for fifty hours I want to do it on my big screen. Simple as that.
Really? If i would need to create for 50 hours i would like to get out of my tv,be in bed,or go somewhere that would give me ideas...Being in front of you're tv for 50 hours sounds boring...Quote:
Originally Posted by BasketSnake
I agree. Plus whilst on your walk you could find new textures and objects to take pictures of and sound effects for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ythyth
I smell Handheld fanboys in here~ Kukukuu.
While i can understand the idea and semi agree with it's cool to be able to create whereever you want. It don't change the fact small screens suck. mad that i said that? well to bad. sometimes it gets really annoying pretending to act like everything is great just for the sake of not getting anyone mad at you. anyways there's a reason people normally like owning big TVs instead of small TVs no? plus staring at small screens can hurt your eyes and neck if you do it to long to much of the time. some people say they get used to it. but IMO that don't sound to healthy. not that playing videogames is ever really healthy... but regardless. How can you find being in front of your TV all day a pain but not on your handheld? one way or the other you are still just spending your whole day doing nothing but looking at a screen. :P *mew
IMO both Handhelds And home game systems have their pros & cons. so do i hate handhelds? No. they are just not my favorite is all. Even when it comes to pokemon something that has small pixely graphics, I enjoy playing it on my TV or PC semi more.
Now some of you may think i sound like or am a jerk. but honestly i am just getting little sick of acting like someone i am not with trying to only say nice things and avoiding debates and arguments of any type. While it may be true i am not the most nice person around, i am far from the worse. and i get real sick of people talking down to me like their opinions are better then mine with everything. I don't take that kinda bull sorry. *mew
now while handhelds may not be my fave i will say they are fine for what they are just like how home systems are really good for what they are. and i think it's about time we stop debating over which we like better as nothing good will come from it. even more so if i am part of the debate. C;
I have teh game and after having played it nonstop since yesterday , yeah it completely replaces lbp 2 , its easier to use, more intuitive, the thermometer has more to work with because of the extra memory and the game-play is quite impressive, there can be no question about it, this is the definitive version of LBP
was even able to recreate my ray casting engine , like omg o.o it barely took up any thermo in this version, Expect to see alot of first person hack and slash dungeon crawlers from my corner of the imagisphere :P
How much thermo did it take up in LBP2?Quote:
Originally Posted by moocowgal
We survived the first two games. I haven't seen LBP vita but I don't doubt for a second that it has more features and might even control better than LBP2. I absolutely believe it when reviewers say it's better than LBP2. I could play the Vita version for hours I'm sure but if I know I'm going to be creating a new level I'd much rather do it on my TV. I don't think one version is worse than the other or anything like that. That's silly. They're both equally great to me but I do love my HDTV. I think being able to take pictures with the Vita camera and use them as textures is insanely cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by ythyth
The story is much better than the LBP2 story. The costume parts are cool also (although I with there were more). This game is EXACTLY like LBP2 but with more feats and portability. Even the music is better. The controls also feel a lot better, and the mini-games were just FANFREAKINTASTIC!Quote:
Originally Posted by BasketSnake
Unlikely, though I'm sure LBP Vita is a better game. I don't see the game or the Vita itself reaching as broad of a user base as LBP 2.
The Vita is so worth buying. Although the games for it currently suck (except LBPV), it is still worth it, cause there is gonna be COD: BO Declassified, and AC3: Liberation, and PlayStation All-Stars, and Dust 514.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rooster
Uncharted Golden Abyss, Escape Plan and Gravity Rush, don't 'suck' and there are many other games that people are more than happy with too. But yes, it is worth getting just for LBPVita and the games that are in the offing such as AC3:Liberation (as you've said) and Tearaway. Sly Cooper will also be a great gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by amoney1999
Ya,But all i said is that if I'm gonna be creating a long level,I'll rather be able to create where ever I'm at,Not be limited to my TV,It's not about liking LBPV more then LBP2(Which i do) I just think getting a full LBP2 create mode where ever I'm at is gonna be pretty awesome and i don't get why limit yourself to your TV. Also I'm not sure i really get your post,Your saying that LBPV has more features then LBP2 but then you say you still rather create on your TV but don't give a reason for that except for you love your HDTV,So what you mean is you rather create on a bigger screen...?Quote:
Originally Posted by BasketSnake
Not true. There are still great games. Uncharted is awesome. Considering it is a launch title I was amazed aby some areas. Katamari is fun. Playing Rayman is blast. Gravity rush is also worth getting. And these are just big AAA titles. There are even other very good smaller cheaper arcade games - Escape Plan, Sound Shapes, Motorstorm, PulzAR,...Quote:
Originally Posted by amoney1999
Imho Vita has the best seleciton of games I have ever seen during launch or first 6 months... just go check the list of launch titles for PS3 or Xbox 360 :-D
I Think lbp2 has better/funnier tutorials. also lbpv quality of the tutorial videos area BIT blurry.
you know what awesome about handhelds? you can just hold it closer. i have been thinking that since the first person had said handhelds screen are too small. besides. the vita is the biggest screen up to to date and it's HD. so there should be no problem of having troubles of seeing things on the system. Let me tell you that i've never said in the internet. I have bad eye vision. i hate wearing glasses(i don't wear them most of the time), i think im fine without them but when my friend wear my glasses, they can easily tell i have bad vision. Got a 60 inch tv, playing lbp2, squinting my eyes cause of those small fonts. this is what it looks like. (O_O_________T.V) and (O_O__Vita) i don't even have problems with rayman origins on vita. Im not mad or anything, just pointing stuff out. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by fumetsusozo
This is very true. When I got my vVta I actually try to compare it... you know what? When I watch my 32inch TV from the sofa... and when I look at the Vita in my hands - they both take approximately same size area of my vision. The TV is bigger... but it is further away making it appear smaller anyway. So I dont see such a big difference playing these two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunbunny23
It's not the same. and i can't really hold things to close to my face because i can't see the item very good anymore at that point and it makes my arms tired badly, lifting my arms that high for to long, also handhelds give me headaches... but I'm not gonna try to explain every little reason why I like home systems & TVs better, but just know i do. I just don't really like handhelds much, i just plain don't. *mewQuote:
Originally Posted by Sunbunny23
Not only am I fine with that, I would prefer it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rooster