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well, alot of entries will be cool. I don't even mind if I win or not, this contest has inspired me to create something awesome. The least I could hope for, is to get just a few plays.
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Come and look at the main character for my level! http://lbp.me/p/q7-nch-
Well, poo that!Quote:
There's no need for bragging guys,
Here's a little glimpse of my level's logic. If you can figure out what it does then you probably have a good idea of what the level is like.
The level is based off a microchip I designed-It's called the 5 Second Signal Recorder and it looks like this:
http://i1.api.vita.lbp.me/img/ft/2e1...598b722311.jpg
This is what its circuit board looks like:
http://i3.api.vita.lbp.me/img/ft/533...87e6d85e21.jpg
This is what each microchip's circuit board looks like:
http://i8.api.vita.lbp.me/img/ft/b38...4ffdafeed0.jpg
And this is how many of them I am using:
http://i5.api.vita.lbp.me/img/ft/275...391b3595f9.jpg
My original design for my entry was just a bunch of pictures of logic but spoilsport bonner here thinks "Logic does not necessarily equal goodness" so apparently I have to make gameplay based off it.
@Kalawishis Haha, looking nice. Though I was referring to some other members, it's fine for me to showcase :p
I hope your level turns out well... With gameplay ;)
-- Jauw
You stole my level!!! ;) Let's just say great minds think alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalawishis
So, looks like you're quite ahead of me. That's great, then you can tell me what my future looks like (besides me failing to meet the deadline). I'm investing a lot of time in efficiency/optimalising because I'm worried about the thermo/framerate. How bad is yours?
I hope all this talk of self indulging "advanced logic skills" talk that is teetering on intimidation doesn't prevent other creators with less pronounced "logic skill" from entering. Nothing wrong with showcasing, but the tone of a few have been really off putting.
Good luck, and keep an eye on the lag. There's a link in my signature for an article on lag reduction ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatso_the_frog
Don't worry too much about what other creators are doing, just focus on making something that you love :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ValiantPixel
If you've been inspired to create something you're proud of, that's a "win" for you and for us. The crown is bonus for whom ever wins the contest, but everyone who gets inspired here is successful in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatso_the_frog
Sure, it's fine for any creator to show off a little, and self confidence is a good thing. If showcasing crosses over to intimidation or putting down other creators, that's a sign of lacking confidence and probably an indication that it's time to talk less and work more on the level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verbal83
In the end, everyone's level has to speak for itself :royalty:
Can a friend help me ? :p
Yes,Quote:
Originally Posted by theflashback02
but in the result of a winning entry - the rewards will only go to the account that publishes the level.
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Originally Posted by Dav1d0
Ok thank you so much :p Will there any other contest after this one ?
Sorry for my english :/
Eventually, but we'll give the other lbp fansites a chance to host one first.Quote:
Originally Posted by theflashback02
Can I ask you one last question ? :p You say that the Cross Controller is not authorized to create the level, but the stuff of the pack (materials, objects, ...) are there allowed ? Sorry for my 3 questions ...
You may use any of the items from the Cross Controller pack, so long as your level is played only on the PS3:)Quote:
Originally Posted by theflashback02
Well I just spent a good 5 hours through trials and errors trying to get the "TIMING" working properly, all that for just some visuals, sad, but I hope people can appreciate the time I spent on making that darn thing. I've decided to have my Dynamic Camera optional, as the original camera view will be on default, but you can switch on and off on the fly. Reason being, well, the dynamic camera has it's flaws, that being, any kind of HUD display you have will be distorted depending on the level of degree you angle them. As for gameplay Mechanics, it's all done, just got to make the enemies. Visuals wise, just need a few more Backgrounds and this game should be done right in time =).
I am doing something amazing. Puzzles are fun. make u think ur brain out. :P
I like my frames like I like my women...single. I'm fine with the thermometer going up because the chick's so hot.Quote:
You stole my level!!! Let's just say great minds think alike.
So, looks like you're quite ahead of me. That's great, then you can tell me what my future looks like (besides me failing to meet the deadline). I'm investing a lot of time in efficiency/optimalising because I'm worried about the thermo/framerate.
Oh, she's bad. Real bad.Quote:
How bad is yours?
U jelly of my logic skillz, brah?Quote:
I hope all this talk of self indulging "advanced logic skills" talk that is teetering on intimidation doesn't prevent other creators with less pronounced "logic skill" from entering. Nothing wrong with showcasing, but the tone of a few have been really off putting.
If I'm intimidating people...sweet! That's less competition to deal with. But seriously, if it makes people feel better, I'm primarily a movie maker so I'm not that experienced with gameplay.
Didn't mean to double post, but Kalawishis. That logic looks hell on the thermo, is your game that complex that it needs all that? I'm sure there's an alternative to cut all that logic by at least 75%, I'm actually very good at reading people's logic and I usually can cut it down by 80% or more, while still doing the same job and maybe even more in the process. I honestly don't see all that logic work for something that's 5 seconds long, questions comes to mind, is it worth it? I see a lot of duplicated microchips, which usually means you may have been running in circles when you could have taken a shortcut, I see it all the time in people's creation of this magnitude, even Comphermc ran in circles.
Well, what the 5 Second Signal Recorder does is record an analog signal over the course of 5 seconds on command, then replay it upon command. It records an analog signal in the same way that a microphone records sound or a camera records video.Quote:
Didn't mean to double post, but Kalawishis. That logic looks hell on the thermo, is your game that complex that it needs all that? I'm sure there's an alternative to cut all that logic by at least 75%, I'm actually very good at reading people's logic and I usually can cut it down by 80% or more, while still doing the same job and maybe even more in the process. I honestly don't see all that logic work for something that's 5 seconds long, questions comes to mind, is it worth it? I see a lot of duplicated microchips, which usually means you may have been running in circles when you could have taken a shortcut, I see it all the time in people's creation of this magnitude, even Comphermc ran in circles.
The reason why it is so complex is because it records the signal frame by frame. Since there are 150 frames in 5 seconds, I have to have 150 Memorisers. The rest of the logic just controls when the Memorisers record, when they replay the signal, and reset.
If you can find a more efficient way of doing this-then congratulations, you've made my level a lot simpler.
Nobody needs to be intimidated here, there are great levels that rely heavily on logic and there are just as many great levels that don't. Do not be embarrassed about the size of your AND gate.
I have another picture of the clock from the time tunnel in my level. This time, there's the date on the right side. What do you think about this symbol of time traveling?
http://ib.lbp.me/img/ft/ebbced0ff4b2...e1990550ca.jpg
What does the 3 22 22 represents?
March 22, 2022 (or any century ending with a 22).Quote:
Originally Posted by LoVeRiCe
The number on the top represents the month.
The number in the middle represents the day.
The number on the bottom represents the year.
In the actual level, the dates change really fast when you get to that section.
Hey guys, since my level is pixelated, this is the main character for the level. We have made more, Eg: Taking step, taking damage, defeated. We still have to make NPCs though, which will be tough. My level is about chaorupption in the timeline. Err sorry, I'm not really sure how to add pictures into my posts. Haha. Maybe because I mainly post via Iphone. Hmmm...
For everyone who is curious: http://lbp.me/p/q7c94w3 The character has 3 attacks, one is a move that has cooldown and one is a potion, which can only be used once, and It says when it's your turn, then the enemy's turn, which will either attack you or your ally, then your ally attacks, either using a double attack or regular attack. Also, using the right stick, you can choose who the potion heals. Again: http://lbp.me/p/q7c94w3
Probably not as much logic as you would have expected, huh?
Well, I'm glad people are boasting, because they're also sharing progress. Makes it more fun, seeing what else is happening out there. :) And if anyone should feel intimitated, just remember the greatest logic in the world won't help a level get published before the deadline.
I do. I'm hoping to record several minutes, but I have not tested beyond 4 chips, so I have no idea how far I can take it. Still ironing out the bugs, too. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Kalawishis
I totally agree with you, but the bad thing is, if I even want my level to get finished, I gotta do all that logic. Besides, once I have all the battle logic done, I'm basically half completed. I did all of that in 1 day. But I do have school, which is a pain. But luckily, school holidays is on a few weeks before the deadline. I'm 80% certain that I will get mine finished. Winning is not my goal, my goal is to get it completed it in time, get good reviews, and just a few plays. Goodluck to everyone else. To who i'm up against, I do have low chances of winning. I'm not bothered. I'm just glad that this will be the best level I have published.
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Even If I wouldn't get it finished, I would try and make a quick ending, then something that says: "The End?"
What do you mean by "I do"? Do you mean you've found a more efficient way, or that you use the same method as me?Quote:
I do. I'm hoping to record several minutes, but I have not tested beyond 4 chips, so I have no idea how far I can take it. Still ironing out the bugs, too.
Right now I have enough chips in my level to record 45 seconds of signal. It's entirely possible for me to record even more, but the game is already rather stressed as it is. I did some tests and, using my method, it is possible to record about a minute of signal without any serious consequences on the thermometer or lag (it took up three bars and there was almost no lag). I got to 3 minutes and 20 seconds, then the game started giving me overheating messages. Keep in mind that these tests were just me placing 5 Second Signal Recorders down so they may not be that accurate.
EDIT: Loverice if you want I can send you a copy of my 5 Second Signal Recorder so as to help you understand it and maybe make a better method.
Yes, I thought of a more efficient way. I'm only storing a new state if it is different from the previous one, using a timer to store how long the state lasts. It does become more complex, and harder to get the bugs out, because one frame of latency in the wrong place can make it misjudge a signal change.
It sounds like the amount of time the signal can be recorded is now dependent on how many times the signal changes in your method. Sadly, this wouldn't be of much use to me since I need the times to be constant. However, this is interesting; I'd like to see the logic for this, as I've actually tried to make something like the one you described, but would only record digital signals. In it, time was dependent on change.Quote:
Yes, I thought of a more efficient way. I'm only storing a new state if it is different from the previous one, using a timer to store how long the state lasts. It does become more complex, and harder to get the bugs out, because one frame of latency in the wrong place can make it misjudge a signal change.
Working hard or hardly working ? excited for this weekend? very important one. :) i am going into creative overload, and i will try to finish what i have started this weekend, so it leaves me a week of testing. counting the days like me? haha
Good luck everyone
People say lol all the time and don't mean it, this actually did make me laugh out loud :pQuote:
Originally Posted by julesyjules
Upon my remembering of the existence of this website, I take the opportunity to wish good luck to all participants. As a player rather than a creator, I can say that intense logic does not make a level nor does just pretty scenery. I am looking forward to try the various entries and discover where each of you creators will take me in time. Cheer!
PJ15: I read it all hah
*Sighs*
Okay guys, look. We were discussing logic. At no point in time did we act like we were better than other creators (okay, Loverice may be an exception, but that's one guy), or act like our logic was gong to win us the competition single-handedly. Why do people think we're doing that? People are saying stuff like "you guys are bordering on intimidation", or "logic does not make a level good by itself " as if we were saying the other but we weren't saying the other and you guys are talking to nobody. It's like if you started posting pics of your level and the replies were like, "Wow, are you trying to intimidate people?" or "Don't think that your visuals are going to win you the crown", and of course you're going to be confused because you were never doing either. It's starting to get a tad irritating. Not mad at you guys or anything, just a little irritated about all this.
True, Logic alone can't win, but with my experience on creating games, logic is the brain of the game, it runs pretty much everything that goes on. Who says Logic can't make beautiful sceneries? I'll prove it wrong. I apply logic to all my scenery to make it better, but mainly to interact with the gameplay mechanics. Honestly, I think the real reason as to why not too many people appreciate logic is because most creators only make platformers and they don't fully understand the work behind complex and advance logic. I think it takes far more skill to create a working logic than to make a scenery for a platformer by a mile. Cuz techincally, everyone can make a platform, but not everyone can make logic work. Now, I'm not claiming that logic is going to win this contest for me, I got mad skills in Visuals too. Combine them and you have a force to reckon with. My latest published piece is actually an announcement of the remake of my very first LBP2 game, although not much logic goes into it, but it shows you my skills in the Visuals department. It's on the back of my Earth if anyone is interested in checking it out.
@LoveRice I do not think that everyone can make beautiful scenery nor do I think everyone can make advanced logic. Scenery isn't just a bunch of stickers and decorations, it's how you combine colours with your theme along with a set of materials. Almost everyone can make lights turn on and off, but understanding HOW things work and think logically is another case.
I think a scenery should fit the theme of your world, not just spammed with random stuff as fillers. True, anyone can make a light turn off and on, but without Logicwork behind it, can you make that same light interact with your game. That is what I do, almost everything in my games is interactive with the gameplay mechanics, here and there I'll have stuff that doesn't but those are for extra scenery to make the game feel and look more alive. Yeah, I know not everyone can make Scenery or Logic, both, one of the other or neither, but if were to measure the skills and talents involve in making the two, I'd say Logic requires more of it.
But these two foundations can't hold a great game or level by themselves, we have to look at the aspects of Gameplaymechanics, Funfactor, Dept, Replay Value, Concepts, Uniqueness, Originality, Creativity and tons more. The reason why I'm so confident in this competition is because I'm focusing on all these aspects that makes a game great. People say I'm "Cocky", but they misunderstodd it for "Confidence". Without confidence I wouldn't even attempt to make ambitious games.
I'm finished with the time tunnel section. Now I am on the second time zone. I even tested the simulation of each section.
There is a whole lotta confidence going on here. I just have one thing to say, and that it confidence is good when it isn't misplaced. A game is nothing without gameplay mechanics that are unique and intuitive. Your game can be ugly, and static as long as it is fun.
ugh, I need to start over.
Finished My First time Zone too! :)
I think it might be a little too late for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wafflegod345
Nonsense... plenty of time until the deadlineQuote:
Originally Posted by thegeckofreak