custom soundtracks manditory

[solid-snake]

like the title say i think it should be a reqwirement by sony to have every game let you play music through the in game xmb.
think about it though. if im playing just cause 2 and im crossing a desert with no cars no wildlife no music it gets boring rely fast. atlest with custom tracks ittle keep me from getting board for a little while untilll i find a town or something.

whats your opinion

[Syroc]

My opinion is: Turn on your stereo.

[rseah]

lol i dont think sony would do this but yeah listen to syroc :P

just turn up your stereo

[robotiod]

Well the thing is i admire SONY for allowing the feature to be turned off, or even pausing at certain points.

For example Heavy rain, a story driven game has no custom soundtracks, but the musical score is absolutely brilliant. (o a side note to that I burned the Heavy Rain OST to a disc even though i have it on my ps3 hard drive, and i sometimes listen to it playing other games)

But a game like street fighter 4 has custom soundtracks, but again during the little cut scenes the music goes quieter or even pauses in some places.

Its true that it could be used a little more but a lot of games have it now and its a good thing that the XMB allows developers to constrict when and if you can use custom soundtracks, Because i believe th XBOX doesn't give such a feature to the developers.

[Silverleon]

Oh man, if only we had some sort of tiny machine that stored music, and had some sort of cable with mini speakers that we could put in our ears to listen to the music...
That way we would be able to turn down the T.v. volume and listen to the music.

Oh man, too bad such thing doesn't exist huh?

Oh, wait a minute, it does!
Silly me, how could i not think of that before

[robotiod]

Oh man, if only we had some sort of tiny machine that stored music, and had some sort of cable with mini speakers that we could put in our ears to listen to the music...
That way we would be able to turn down the T.v. volume and listen to the music.

Oh man, too bad such thing doesn't exist...

Wait a minute,you meen one of these

[Silverleon]

Wait a minute,you meen one of these

HA!

That just made my day...

(Well that and some of the jokes in my "CHuck Norris' LBP Rules" thread )

[rtm223]

In fairness, I don't get why the mocking - it's certainly not a bad idea. As for using a second source for music there are two main issues I have with that:

1. I shouldn't have to.
2. I don't have a spare couple of grand lying around to buy a second set of speakers

This falls very much into the category of things that devs could easily support, but are seemingly too lazy to bother with. Yeah sure we can make do without it (as we currently are), but it doesn't mean that we should have to.

[Silverleon]

In fairness, I don't get why the mocking - it's certainly not a bad idea. As for using a second source for music there are two main issues I have with that:

1. I shouldn't have to.
2. I don't have a spare couple of grand lying around to buy a second set of speakers

This falls very much into the category of things that devs could easily support, but are seemingly too lazy to bother with. Yeah sure we can make do without it (as we currently are), but it doesn't mean that we should have to.

So the battle of the lazyness begins...
Whoever is lazyer gets to do nothing while the other party accomodates for both.

So its;
I'm to lazy to get my music player, make them put this feature
vs
They can easly put on headphones and listen to whatever music they want, whenever they want, so lets not waste money/ time on it.

I wonder who will win?

Tho in all seriousness, i know what you mean
(out of space)

[Syroc]

You don't need a second set of speakers. (Unless you rely on your TV. In that case: Get yourself some proper speakers!)
A decent stereo system doesn't cost that much.

[Silverleon]

(...continued)

I know what you man, don't get me wrong, i too think it'd be cool having such feature, but think about this.
What happens then to the music the people put so much effort and resources into making, sometimes you'd be missing out on beautiful masterpieces or some other games it would completly kill the ambient.

Remember that sometimes the music is an essential part of the game, gives you hints, stes the mood wether its terror to that of joy, believe me, they put ay more effort into making just the right kind of music for each situation of a game that youmight think, and placing such feature would make it wortless.

now do you understand why i'm against it?

[rtm223]

You don't need a second set of speakers. (Unless you rely on your TV. In that case: Get yourself some proper speakers!)
A decent stereo system doesn't cost that much.

2 grand. That's what my speakers / amplifer cost. I have proper speakers, I don't intend to buy a second set, because a decent stereo does actually cost quite a bit The equipment that I own is perfectly capable of handling both game sound and custom music from the PS3, the only thing holding that back is the developers.

What happens then to the music the people put so much effort and resources into making, sometimes you'd be missing out on beautiful masterpieces or some other games it would completly kill the ambient.

The point is choice. Why should we not have the choice to swap out the standard music. The argument that I might miss out on part of the ambience is completely moot when I have chosen that route. If I'm struggling to understand what is going on in the game because of the lack of default music I can swap back, but I see no good reason why I should not have the choice in the first place, when it is so easilly integrated into the system. So,

now do you understand why i'm against it?

No, no I don't. I understand what you are saying, but I can't get my head around the mentality behind it. Unless you are too mindless to make decisions for yourself and you need to have someone holding your hand to get you through the day, I don't understand why anyone, as a user, would have issue with this. How is the lack of choice a benefit?

Of course, this doesn't matter, as current trends in consumer electronics are that developers treat us as the mindless sheep that the majority of people are, and we accept that wholeheartedly. So we are told to accept a lack of choice, we are told to accept that the developers have control over us, that they know what is right for us, because we are stupid. And the consumers accept that.

[Syroc]

Just plug your mp3 player/laptop/whatever into the stereo system than.

[rtm223]

And then I have to have the game sound through my TV speakers. I lose the lovely surround mix and get naff quality audio all round. Or I swap it around and have good quality game sounds and poor quality music. It's lose - lose at the moment.

And you aren't offering any particular argument against the benefits of choice, or why this isn't a desirable feature. If anything you are simply highlighting reasons why it is desirable

[Syroc]

Most games offer you the chance to turn off the music. At least those games that could benefit from custom music and those are the ones that matter.
Good quality sound effects + music you like.

I'm not arguing against choice, I'm arguing for using the choices you already have.

PS: If your audio system only has one audio in you are out of luck of course.

[microchirp]

It shouldn't be a required feature. First of all Just Cause 2 isn't even a Sony title, they don't really have jurisdiction over how it is developed. Putting regulations on development will just irritate the developers too. The music can, as has been said, be a central part to the game... It's entirely possible to, if it's that bad, just shut off the in-game music and play your own. If you really cared about the feature you would not buy the games that don't have it, and would convince others to do the same. Otherwise, the company is really not going to care. It's not a deciding factor for any significant amount of people...

[Syroc]

First of all Just Cause 2 isn't even a Sony title, they don't really have jurisdiction over how it is developed. Putting regulations on development will just irritate the developers too.

Like trophies?

[oldage]

dunno if it's been said, but the function IS there, it's just up to the devs if they want to use it or not.
same with the record/youtube function, it was implented in firmware 2.50 if I remember correctly.

[Alex™]

, Because i believe th XBOX doesn't give such a feature to the developers.

You can play any music through the guide on any game, as long as you didn't buy it from itunes....

[microchirp]

Like trophies?

No, I hate them. Either way, Sony makes a profit off of trophies.