NGP: My Worries about LBP PSP's Future

[spok22]

They say that the NGP has the capability of actually playing PS3 games onto the system itself, so they might actually develop a cross-platform game, with the LBP.me running for both platforms, but that possibility may not happen. i just want to know how much that little cartridge will fit, as LBP2 is like 18GB to download it.

It would be really awesome if we could edit LBP2 levels, we would be able to improve the levels and errors between platforms. the only concern is playing it both ways, NGP and PS3 controls. Multi-player with this finally gives people their view of where they are, instead of looking at one screen. it's a lot to look at and a lot to think about, but we'll have to wait, but i don't want to.

And has anyone seen a developers video of a migration of any LBP onto the NGP itself, because there has been some games that has been tested from PS3 to NGP Like MGS4

im curious about that also but im pretty confident that sony wouldnt handicap their new handheld by not having sufficient memory for ps3 quality(or close to) games on their cartridges. Anyhow, im sure well be getting more information on ngp/lbppsp2 within the coming months or maybe even as soon as next week at gdc

ALso, i agree, i would love to see a cross platform lbp game. It would definitely bolster the commnity alot and lbp level creators wouldnt have to choose one at the expense of the other. Endless possibilities if this were to happen.

[spok22]

Hmm. I don't see how having greater graphical capabilities would allow it to have multiplayer, because multiplayer has nothing to do with graphics. LBP PSP didn't have multiplayer because of CPU constraints, not because of graphical capabilities.

Trust me. ngp blows psp out of the water in terms of processing power.

[sackboy7789]

I just wonder when the official release date will be said for the NGP...

[anoken]

Guys (and dizzy lol), lets not talk about all the features the NGP will have. This thread is about the PSP Community's future with the NGP, not the NGP itself.

[sackboy7789]

Ok ummm...when the PSP side gets replaced by the "NGP side''(yes, i pre-called it that...) I wont be too mad... or sad... or dissapointed. the only bad thing is those amazing level creators like cybersora, valmassoi, amazingflyingpoo,sha-ja, struanmcd,and other people made will be lost, no, engulfed in the black hole that will appear in the imagisphere...

[spok22]

Ok ummm...when the PSP side gets replaced by the "NGP side''(yes, i pre-called it that...) I wont be too mad... or sad... or dissapointed. the only bad thing is those amazing level creators like cybersora, valmassoi, amazingflyingpoo, struanmcd,and other people made will be lost, no, engulfed in the black hole that will appear in the imagisphere...

no offense meant to any of the guys mentioned, and not to say that you guys arent really good at level creating but good lbp ps3 creators top anyone we have here by far. if you dont believe me buy lbp ps3 and look at the top hearted creators. Some of their work on there has me seriously speechless. Thats another reason why i want cross platform. because it will bring to the table a helluva lot more talent than lbp psp has or ever had.

and you should consider adding sha-ja to that list. ^

[Silver39]

no offense meant to any of the guys mentioned, and not to say that you guys arent really good at level creating but good lbp ps3 creators top anyone we have here by far. if you dont believe me buy lbp ps3 and look at the top hearted creators. Some of their work on there has me seriously speechless. Thats another reason why i want cross platform. because it will bring to the table a helluva lot more talent than lbp psp has or ever had.

and you should consider adding sha-ja to that list. ^

Or you could consider that the platforms have completely different limitations. Put all the PSPers into the PS3 and you'll get a much better level than on the PSP.

For example, Valmassoi's Bubbly Garden (Remixed on the PS3)

[WoodburyRaider]

no offense meant to any of the guys mentioned, and not to say that you guys arent really good at level creating but good lbp ps3 creators top anyone we have here by far. if you dont believe me buy lbp ps3 and look at the top hearted creators. Some of their work on there has me seriously speechless. Thats another reason why i want cross platform. because it will bring to the table a helluva lot more talent than lbp psp has or ever had.

and you should consider adding sha-ja to that list. ^

Yeah like silver said, the things is the limitations are way different on PSP and the ability for us to create literally outside the box with glitches and tricks is remarkable in its own way. I realize you're not bashing anyone but I'm saying that PS3 creators can't be considered better (no offense to them either) since it's a different system with different controls (some making creating easier, others harder). I guarantee you the same outcome from a PSPer to PS3 as a PS3er to PSP - you just don't hear about it. Honestly I think a PS3er would be lost picking up the PSP version for the first time, at least initially.

[spok22]

Or you could consider that the platforms have completely different limitations. Put all the PSPers into the PS3 and you'll get a much better level than on the PSP.

For example, Valmassoi's Bubbly Garden (Remixed on the PS3)

ill have to give that one a go sometime then. and true dat about limitations but i still think that the lbp ps3 level design overall on there is better than anything ive seen here. theres nothing in terms of, level design you can do on lbp1 thats not possible on the psp version with exception to obstacles that use water or plasma. again this is just my opinion. No offense meant to anybody.

[spok22]

Yeah like silver said, the things is the limitations are way different on PSP and the ability for us to create literally outside the box with glitches and tricks is remarkable in its own way. I realize you're not bashing anyone but I'm saying that PS3 creators can't be considered better (no offense to them either) since it's a different system with different controls (some making creating easier, others harder). I guarantee you the same outcome from a PSPer to PS3 as a PS3er to PSP - you just don't hear about it. Honestly I think a PS3er would be lost picking up the PSP version for the first time, at least initially.

i no exactly what you mean. lol im actually reluctant to start creating on the ps3 because i feel totally lost when i start creating with the ps3 tools... but i just cant see significant enough differences between the two games to create limitations on the psp in terms of level design. anyways lets stop talking about this because i have a feeling this will end up going nowhere good. Its just an opinion anyways.

[TheNerd]

If there's one question that's left echoing through the game-o-sphere following Sony's announcement of their ambitious new handheld, it's the obvious: How much is this thing going to cost? Sony definitely isn't ready to tell us the price yet, but they're willing to admit that it's been a concern from the start.

While speaking with Sony Computer Entertainment president of worldwide studios Shu Yoshida about the NGP, I asked if he was worried about the problem of pricing, given the powerful (and presumably expensive) technology that's built into the device. He responded by acknowledging that Sony is aware of price being an important issue:

"From the very beginning of the project -- since 2008 -- pricing was one of the considerations that we had. Hopefully when we announce the price, people will see the proper value."

I hope so too, but that's going to depend pretty heavily on what that price is, especially if we have to add in a payment plan for 3G coverage.

Yoshida did provide one further hint to go off of as we begin speculating about the price. When I brought up the initial shock at the PlayStation 3 launch price, he laughed and assured me, "It's not going to be $599." Well, that's a start.

Here's the link if you guys need it: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...g-the-ngp.aspx

Now I see a lot of you saying that this is going to ruin LBP PSP's days, but I can tell you that we still might have another year and a half to have fun with LBP PSP.

The quote above was from the Gameinformer website, although I have the new issue of the magazine.
While I was reading it, a few pages in I saw what I expected to see in the issue.
That is of course the NGP's highlight.

While I was reading through it, I saw a paragraph or so about the price of the NGP, similar to the quote above from the website. Now in the magazine, it said that Gameinformer heard a rumor of an estimated price of about $400.
Can you believe that? Well, you better believe it. I mean with all the new hardware, why wouldn't the price be that high?

The expected release date is by the end of this year, but I'm thinking not a lot of people will get it that quickly due to the high price tag.

For me, I'm not sure whether or not I should get the NGP.
I mean most of us will probably just end up getting a PS3 with LBP2.
Would you guys get a PS3 120GB for $299 or get the NGP for about a $100 more?
I'm literally asking you guys by the way.

If some of you are going to stick with the PSP and LBP PSP, then I will still keep creating for you guys.
I'm still creating a few levels at this very moment, so why should I stop now?
But if the PSP Community does dwindle down into nothing, then I probably will stop.

[butter-kicker]

BIG NEWS

This is already starting to have an effect on the LBP PSP community as The Questor has given up On LBP PSP and has announced his official LBP PSP retirement.
I thought that the Other great creators had done this too and formed a quick group with LBP PSP Rookies. Hopefully LBP PSP will be popular enough for a long time so us Rookies can shine through.

[Silver39]

I mean most of us will probably just end up getting a PS3 with LBP2.

Um... Most of us already did.

[TheNerd]

BIG NEWS

This is already starting to have an effect on the LBP PSP community as The Questor has given up On LBP PSP and has announced his official LBP PSP retirement.
I thought that the Other great creators had done this too and formed a quick group with LBP PSP Rookies. Hopefully LBP PSP will be popular enough for a long time so us Rookies can shine through.

You "rookies" are doing a great job with your levels.
You shouldn't even call yourselves rookies anymore.
If you guys need help, most of us are still here, just not looking on this side.
It sucks how I can't be active on the site or on LBP PSP anymore.
That's what you get when you join soccer and cross country :P
Anyways, it's almost the end of both soccer and cross country season for me.
So as soon as I'm free, I'll try to help out with the PSP community, in terms of sprucing it up a bit.

[eagerneph]

no offense meant to any of the guys mentioned, and not to say that you guys arent really good at level creating but good lbp ps3 creators top anyone we have here by far. if you dont believe me buy lbp ps3 and look at the top hearted creators. Some of their work on there has me seriously speechless. Thats another reason why i want cross platform. because it will bring to the table a helluva lot more talent than lbp psp has or ever had.

and you should consider adding sha-ja to that list. ^

I agree with everyone up there about the PSP having limitations. The PS3 is completely different and we've said this many times, you cannot compare the PS3 levels to the levels on the PSP. If you really think that PSPer's can't shine on the PS3, I think I might just have to send you a key to my level in progress and ask for your opinion.