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    I was able to use lbp.me yesterday, but now when I click to sign in it redirects me to Qriocity, I put in my username and password, and when it click log in, it takes me back to the page that was on. The only problem is that I'm still not logged in. The page is the same as before I signed on. Same thing happened with the main site. So, I'm not the only one with PSN problems...again?
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    Anonymous most definitely exists. 100% Certainty. They have been active for years now. A few have been on the radio.

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    Okay, seriously? Supposedly they've been doing this kind of junk for years, and they haven't been sued yet?

    I don't give a flying fladoodle about what hackers do to their OWN consoles, but when they purposely mess up a game - No, a whole network for no good reason and ruin everyone's gaming experience, of course I'm going to side with the people who are just trying to keep their business afloat and making a living. This entire thing is really stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheZimInvader View Post
    Okay, seriously? Supposedly they've been doing this kind of junk for years, and they haven't been sued yet?
    They don't actually give any sort of evidence that identifies them, So its quite difficult to sue them...

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    I still find it amusing/pathetic that so many people agree with them.

    All this will do is make Sony think they need to put stricter rules in place and make it harder to do anything with their consoles, current or future. All this is doing is making things worse in the long run.

    So congratulations 'anonymous', keep up the good work and the PS4 may be offline only


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    Quote Originally Posted by KernelM View Post
    They don't actually give any sort of evidence that identifies them, So its quite difficult to sue them...
    I hear they're behind seven proxies, so that would make them hard to pinpoint... or was that just a meme?

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    If these people don't want to play by Sony's rules, they do not have to buy a PS3. If they're so smart, why don't they design and sell their own console? I guess that would be too hard for them.

    I guess people nowadays expect every company to totally bend to their will. I guess that they conveniently forgot that if it weren't for people using hacking to facilitate stealing content if the first place, features like Other OS would not have been removed.

    They can use all the idiotic rhetoric that they want about freedom and ownership, but in the end, they are still cyber criminals and now, cyber terrorists.

    It is depressing to see large organizations use their power and influence to take away the freedoms of others; Anonymous has become what they set out to stop.

    Most PS3 buyers probably don't hack, or mod, or steal content. Sony only affected those that did. Now, in retaliation, Anonymous seeks to avenge this act many times over, by affecting everyone who uses the PS3. "If I can't have it, nobody can."

    These attacks will cause even more restrictions, which will then "justify" even more attacks; they will only get more extreme. They may not target journalists now, but from what it sounds like, they probably will soon. They will have gone from an organization that supports free speech to a terrorist organization that attacks all who disagree with them... if they haven't already.

    "Sony will not go trodding through the internet unchecked or unchallenged.”
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    ...I have more to say on this, but I don't want to post a huge rant.
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    This has to be said about Anonymous:

    They are a group of trolls and hackers, they don't care about what me, you or anyone else thinks, and they care even less for their targets.

    'Nuff said.

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    I think Annoynomis doesn't relize two things:
    1: What they are doing is probably illegal
    2: They are rebeling against something they agreed to... The terms of service, which is what makes what they are doing is illegal because they agreed to a contract.

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    I still stand by my "They don't care" view. Even if it is illegal, do they really care about it? I find that they don't. Even if you were to tell them, they would still keep going.

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    The argument of Anonymous has merit, and IMO anyone who disagrees with that is a troll...to agree to a set of rules and standards that are set up at the time of purchase is one thing, to agree to an arbitrary "I reserve the right to change the rules when and as I see fit (removing Other OS, removing the ablility to play PS2 games, etc) is tantamount to changing the rules of baseball because your team is losing but you own the ball...it's simply BS. ALL computer and game lovers should be with anonymous, not against them, because it is people messing around with hardware and software that Created the entertainment industry of computers and games that we all enjoy today - NOT big corporations.
    And as for the argument of innocent gamers being considered collateral damage, get off your *** and go play in the rain or read a book...what are you going to do when the hackers attack our electrical grid instead of our gaming grid...do you even know where your flashlight is? Do you have a candle that isnt from your birthday cake in the house? Anonymous did us all a favor by reminding us also that Security Is Everyone's Responsiblility.

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    The servers are getting throttled by the amount of traffic, It has nothing to do with anonymous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuuBerry View Post
    The argument of Anonymous has merit, and IMO anyone who disagrees with that is a troll...to agree to a set of rules and standards that are set up at the time of purchase is one thing, to agree to an arbitrary "I reserve the right to change the rules when and as I see fit (removing Other OS, removing the ablility to play PS2 games, etc) is tantamount to changing the rules of baseball because your team is losing but you own the ball...it's simply BS.
    AnonOps has declared taking no part in the Sony network breach. This debacle is most likely the work of a group of hackers that may or may not have been affiliated loosely with the decentralized Anonymous 'organization'.

    You signed the ToA when you first turned on the PS3. That means you signed a legally binding contract forbidding you from tampering with the system. It also allowed Sony to make changes to their system (including removing OtherOS, among other things, which was a function of the firmware) at their convenience. To cry foul at this is laughable at best.

    99% of PS3 owners don't even know what Linux is, let alone how to install it on their PS3s. In addition, 99.99999% of PS3 owners had no intentions of hacking the system or doing any other such illegal activity. It's that small fraction of a percent that ruined this for the rest of us, plain and simple.

    As far as OtherOS is concerned, when the possibilities to hack the network, gain control over the hypervisor, or generally screw with the rest of the millions of paying customers became apparent, you're going to tell me you would have left those doors open? The simple fact is that OtherOS was removed because it gave hackers too many methods to screw it up for the rest of us. Had this decision not been made, the worldwide network breach and subsequent download of customer data would have happened sooner, and who knows, it could have been worse!

    ALL computer and game lovers should be with anonymous, not against them, because it is people messing around with hardware and software that Created the entertainment industry of computers and games that we all enjoy today - NOT big corporations.
    ...Except the big corporations hired all those hackers who then actually created the technology and software we use today. Funny how the promise of a good-paying job, benefits and a career in the field you love gets people's attention.

    And as for the argument of innocent gamers being considered collateral damage, get off your *** and go play in the rain or read a book...what are you going to do when the hackers attack our electrical grid instead of our gaming grid...do you even know where your flashlight is? Do you have a candle that isnt from your birthday cake in the house? Anonymous did us all a favor by reminding us also that Security Is Everyone's Responsiblility.
    You claim they did us a favor? Which means you're fine with having your email address, physical address, birthdate and other personal information floating out there in the ethos? It could easily be sold to the highest bidder, in which case you'd be royally screwed. At the very least you'd be sent all sorts of junk mail (snail and e-) and at the very most someone could be walking around 1000 miles from you on their newly open $10,000 credit card. And if that scenario doesn't happen to you, but happens to the guy down the street, I suppose that's ok with you?

    It's also a funny (and expensive) way to "teach" us all about internet security. I suppose we should do the same to teach the world about rape awareness? I'm sure I could find a couple of guys fresh out of prison who'd love to teach you the ins and outs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuuBerry View Post
    The argument of Anonymous has merit, and IMO anyone who disagrees with that is a troll...to agree to a set of rules and standards that are set up at the time of purchase is one thing, to agree to an arbitrary "I reserve the right to change the rules when and as I see fit (removing Other OS, removing the ablility to play PS2 games, etc) is tantamount to changing the rules of baseball because your team is losing but you own the ball...it's simply BS. ALL computer and game lovers should be with anonymous, not against them, because it is people messing around with hardware and software that Created the entertainment industry of computers and games that we all enjoy today - NOT big corporations.
    And as for the argument of innocent gamers being considered collateral damage, get off your *** and go play in the rain or read a book...what are you going to do when the hackers attack our electrical grid instead of our gaming grid...do you even know where your flashlight is? Do you have a candle that isnt from your birthday cake in the house? Anonymous did us all a favor by reminding us also that Security Is Everyone's Responsiblility.
    Wow. Seriously? Anonymous are a bunch of self righteous pricks, acting on behalf for 'THE GREATER GOOD'. Sony took out the ability to install other OS because the users abused it, and led it to piracy. Of course they're going to protect their system. I don't necessarily agree that they should of done that, but i do agree with companies fighting against piracy.

    Also, you can't use the removing PS2 compatibility as an argument. When you buy a PS3, you know right there and then whether it can play PS2 games. That's like buying a nintendo DSi and trying to sue Nintendo because it won't play GBA games.

    Without big corporations, there would be no console gaming. We wouldn't have Xbox, Playstation and Nintendo. You do realise how ridiculous it is to ridicule these awful big bad corporations right?
    And **** right the customers are collateral damage. Get off your high horse and see that while people could easily go outside and socialise with friends, maybe they just wanna have a relaxing evening in and play some games - but can't due to pathetic hackers.

    A real gamer would not agree with 'FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT', and be happy that information was stolen and networks are down for weeks, no - the real gamer just wants to sit on his *** and play games all night. Simple as that. Anonymous are just pretentious internet trolls sitting behind their computer acting all high and mighty. In reality they're too afraid to reveal their identity - a bunch of cowards.

    I will admit that sony improving security is a good thing. Whether this attack had anything to do with Anon is unclear as they denied any involvement, but the amount of damage it has done to sony is very costly.
    Oh and FYI - I personally couldn't care less that the PSN was down, I hadn't turned it on weeks before it went down anyway. I game on PC.

    EDIT: Good post Schm0, said things better than I can.
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