Are there any TV shows or channels you think are going downhill?

[Apple2012]

When I went to many show forums, I can tell the ratings are falling. Older shows weren't good as they used to be, newer shows trash the networks, some good shows were removed from the air.

One example discusses South Park. People have been thinking it has been going downhill ever since Season 13. I agree South Park hasn't been doing good, especially since the 201st episode, but that's only because of the coon saga and what was going on in the second half of season 14. Season 15 was just as bad as Season 14, but Season 16 seems to improve everything. While people think South Park is getting worse, similar shows are worse when they are going downhill like Simpsons and Family Guy.

Back in 2008/2009 (when I first joined forums), there was another major discussion like this, but on the entire channel of Cartoon Network. People have been complaining about the channel and the new shows. The most beloved shows were taken off and were replaced with shows they really hate, especially live action animation. Chowder and Flapjack were good for the channel, even though people have been critical about them before they premiered. But for the most part, the channel has a lot of hatred.

So are there any channels or TV shows you think are going downhill?

[kirbyman62]

Once Fox Kids died, so did a bit of kid's TV.

[Bremnen]

Once Fox KidsToonami died, so did a bit all of kid's TV.

One of the guys who works at Adult Swim said on twitter that Toonami was cancelled because of internal reasons. (most likely a new d-bag boss)

[spoiler]
The following day, Adult Swim posted a message to their Twitter page, simply stating, "Want it back? Let us know. #BringBackToonami".[18] On April 4, Adult Swim followed up this tweet with one stating, "#BringBackToonami We've heard you. Thank you for your passion and interest - stay tuned."[19] On April 8, Adult Swim aired 2 bumpers about the Toonami tweets and answered with "[we're listening]" and "[we're looking into it]".[20][/spoiler]

Everyone saying Adventure Time is terrible and Regular Show is great has terrible taste and cant be trusted to judge quality.

[CyberSora]

One of the guys who works at Adult Swim said on twitter that Toonami was cancelled because of internal reasons. (most likely a new d-bag boss)

[spoiler]
The following day, Adult Swim posted a message to their Twitter page, simply stating, "Want it back? Let us know. #BringBackToonami".[18] On April 4, Adult Swim followed up this tweet with one stating, "#BringBackToonami We've heard you. Thank you for your passion and interest - stay tuned."[19] On April 8, Adult Swim aired 2 bumpers about the Toonami tweets and answered with "[we're listening]" and "[we're looking into it]".[20][/spoiler]

And everybody went crazy over it. Streams were made to bring the broadcast to people without the channel, and it was rather enjoyable while it lasted (had fun with them too). Still, CN's president is pants-on-head retarded and knows that the Toonami demographic is a small minority compared to the current CN demographic, so chances look slim.

Everyone saying Adventure Time is terrible and Regular Show is great has terrible taste and cant be trusted to judge quality.

Of all people to say that, I would have expected you the least, Bremnen. How disappointing.

[JamesDNaux]

I haven't watched much TV in a long while, but I agree that CN has really gotten worse. They don't have any good shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog and Ed, Edd n Eddy anymore, now they have garbage like Adventure Time and Regular Show.

A show in particular that I think has gotten worse is Spongebob, I wouldn't even think of watching it anymore. Speaking of Nickelodeon, I can't remember the last time I even put that channel on or even thought about it... Disney Channel is another one, it's not even the same thing it used to be. Why do they make these random shows that have such ridiculous situations that would never actually happen? (Yes, I'm talking about the live action ones, not the cartoons) The cartoons aren't even that good either really.

On a non-cartoon note, History and Discovery channels have really gone off track, every time I put on Discovery, that motorcycle show is always on, and History just has too much stuff that isn't related to history in any way whatsoever. Really need more Modern Marvels and How It's Made...

I've also noticed a lot of knockoff shows popping up, and their usually just worse than the original. Pawn Stars is a decent show, but then I watched Hardcore Pawn, it's nothing but screaming people (Why are their so many shows like this? I think there are about three repo shows that are just people yelling and brawling like drunkards).

Now I remember why I stopped watching TV...

[CyberSora]

I haven't watched much TV in a long while, but I agree that CN has really gotten worse. They don't have any good shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog and Ed, Edd n Eddy anymore, now they have garbage like Adventure Time and Regular Show.

Whoa, back that .*** bandwagon up. Adventure Time I can agree with, but hating Regular Show? Expecto Whatthefutrona are you talking about?

[JamesDNaux]

Whoa, back that .*** bandwagon up. Adventure Time I can agree with, but hating Regular Show? Expecto Whatthefutrona are you talking about?

I'll admit, I haven't actually watched it (I did watch one episode of Adventure Time though, and it was God-awful) but I saw the previews for it, and it looked just as bad as Adventure Time (it looked like the same people made it, honestly). One thing I really don't like is the art style, everything on CN now just looks awful.

[CyberSora]

I'll admit, I haven't actually watched it (I did watch one episode of Adventure Time though, and it was God-awful) but I saw the previews for it, and it looked just as bad as Adventure Time (it looked like the same people made it, honestly). One thing I really don't like is the art style, everything on CN now just looks awful.

Nice way to base you argument.

[spoiler]On a more gentler note, Regular Show is like Ed Edd N' Eddy and Courage the Cowardly Dog combined; it has great humor that mature audience will pick up on and enjoy, their high-jinks are actually entertaining and the solutions are thought out, not "oh they get in this situation but MAGIC helps them figure things out", and they don't over exaggerate as much as Adventure Time. It's a pretty cool show and I consider it on the same level as the other good old CN shows.[/spoiler]

[JamesDNaux]

Nice way to base you argument.

[spoiler]Quite the persuasive counter-argument.[/spoiler]

Alright, I may give it a try, going on your word about the plot of the show. I still don't like the overall design of it, isn't their a guy with a gumball machine for a head? I like weird stuff, but it just seems a bit too 'wtf' for my taste.

[Apple2012]

I haven't watched much TV in a long while, but I agree that CN has really gotten worse. They don't have any good shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog and Ed, Edd n Eddy anymore, now they have garbage like Adventure Time and Regular Show.

I didn't realize that, but I agree that Cartoon Network is getting worse, but that's because I haven't seen CN in a while. Since I started watching South Park, I took off from CN. When I came back, it was horrible. Chowder was cancelled, TDI got worse, and most of these shows are very unfamiliar. Adventure Time looks like a Rip-off from Chowder and Flapjack.

The criticism of newer TV shows began all the way back in 2004/2005, when shows like Gym Partner's and Foster's home for Imaginary Friends debut. People hated shows that premiered after Camp Lazlo, such as Squirrel Boy, Chop Socky Chooks, and especially Live Action animated shows like Out of Jimmy's Head. But for Chowder, it wasn't bad at all. Clone Wars wasn't so great either.

I haven't seen Regular Show (judging by the tile, it reminds me of The Daily Show), but I heard a producer of Flapjack made this show.

[Jrange378]

Regular show and adventure time is the only thing worth anybodies time on Cartoon network. I like regular show in particular for reasons stated above, its just really well thought out and creative. The show is actually based on an acid trip, or at least Benson and Mordecai are, so you know its gonna be sweet. One of my favorite episodes is where they buy muscle man the fake lottery ticket and he flips out.

[gdn001]

Regarding CN, Regular Show is the only series that I really think it's worth watching. Adventure Time is tolerable, Gumball is hardly tolerable, shows like Chowder and Flapjack faded away pretty quickly, and Ben 10 has been overdone to hell.

Nickelodeon... I simply skip this channel now. Too many stupid series and the new cartoons aren't appealing at all.

[Outlaw-Jack•]

In my honest opinion, I think Adventure Time and Regular Show are a lot better than the stuff they were coming out with one or two years ago.

With Regular Show, the humor is more directed towards an older group, probably in their pre-teens and teens. The whole "bro" vibe really helps draw in attention, and to me, the show is like a toned-down version of family guy when it comes to the situations Mordecai and Rigby get involved in.

I actually like Adventure Time. Now before you go all off on me, lemme just say that yes, some stuff in that show is a bit stupid. A tiny green elephant trying to seduce a tentacle monster, a 13-year-old falling in love with an 18-year-old gum humanoid, a guy who committed suicide by eating too much nacho cheese... I'll just stop there. But it's more so the backstory and character backgrounds that have me intrigued. Adventure Time takes place after Earth has a nuclear fallout, and the central characters, as whimsical as they may be, have pretty believable personalities. And some of the truth in the series is actually really dark compared to the other shows.

Now, when I compare these shows to others like Johnny Test, Total Drama Island and the new Ben 10, I think they're lightyears ahead. I gotta admit, after Cartoon Network ditched Toonami and Miguzi (along with some of my long-time favorite shows lie Ed, Edd & Eddy and Courage the Cowardly Dog) and shortened their title, cartoons on that channel have been more hit-n-miss if anything. Stuff like Gumball and the new Looney Tunes is okay at best, while other stuff like Johnny Test (yes, I absolutely hate that show) should have been killed off long ago. And Nickelodeon... uggh. The only reason I have to watch it now is for Korra (made by the same guys who did Avatar; YOU SHOULD WATCH ET).

If there's any show that I think is going downhill it's gotta be Spongebob Squarepants. I can't bear the watch the show anymore because they've changed so much stuff. Spongebob just seems like an accident-prone idiot, Patrick is even more stupid than before, Mr. Krabs is just mean now, I don't even see Sandy anymore, Mrs. Puff is now a total wimp, and Gary talks waaay too much. If anything, they've kept Squidward mostly the same, and now these days he perfectly conveys my emotions for the show like he does for his neighbors: it's annoying, it's stupid, and I just hate it. It's not what it used to be, and I just feel sad that Nickelodeon keeps poking it with a stick to keep it alive.

[JamesDNaux]

In my honest opinion, I think Adventure Time and Regular Show are a lot better than the stuff they were coming out with one or two years ago.

Even though I didn't like Chowder or Flapjack (yes I watched them, a few episodes as well) I still think the're better than the new shows.

Now, when I compare these shows to others like Johnny Test, Total Drama Island and the new Ben 10, I think they're lightyears ahead. I gotta admit, after Cartoon Network ditched Toonami and Miguzi (along with some of my long-time favorite shows lie Ed, Edd & Eddy and Courage the Cowardly Dog) and shortened their title, cartoons on that channel have been more hit-n-miss if anything.

Johnny Test actually started out a while back on another channel (that I can't seem to remember) before CN picked it up. It was decent the first few times, but it got old extremely fast. Total Drama Island, prime example of what CN does nowadays, bad bathroom jokes and childish humour (farts and underwear), if they were more serious with it, it might have been a decent show. Ben 10, I thought it was pretty neat, the watch turning him into aliens was a good idea. Haven't watched the newer one though, I'd imagine its gotten repetative. I vaguely remember Toonami... didn't that play Naruto and GBZ or some other? It was anime stuff at least, I think... I miss Courage and the Eds too, still my favorite cartoons.

If there's any show that I think is going downhill it's gotta be Spongebob Squarepants. I can't bear the watch the show anymore because they've changed so much stuff. Spongebob just seems like an accident-prone idiot, Patrick is even more stupid than before, Mr. Krabs is just mean now, I don't even see Sandy anymore, Mrs. Puff is now a total wimp, and Gary talks waaay too much. If anything, they've kept Squidward mostly the same, and now these days he perfectly conveys my emotions for the show like he does for his neighbors: it's annoying, it's stupid, and I just hate it. It's not what it used to be, and I just feel sad that Nickelodeon keeps poking it with a stick to keep it alive.

This^ It's almost as dead a horse as FF. *Grabs stick*

[Outlaw-Jack•]

This^ It's almost as dead a horse as FF. *Grabs stick*

I haven't gotten this mad at a comment in a long, long time...

Of course there were always some good shows (I didn't think Chowder or Flapjack were bad at all; the target audiences are just so small), but the majority of them were pretty bad.

Edit: Yeah, I'm still angry.