All Collectables Please

[piggabling]

Admittedly, I haven't read every post in this thread, but I believe many of you are forgetting the people who will be new to the LBP franchise come November. I welcome these new creators to the community, and I want them to be able to create the same with the same tool set we do as soon as possible. If these players are on PS4, have never owned a PS3 or any LBP games before hand, they should not have to pay for a console, two games, and have to toil through two story modes just to reach a tool set size near many of ours (assuming PSNow isn't available in the region, or a viable option due to internet connection or whatever else). No, that's just too demanding to any creator. It's just too alienating to a member already new to a community.

In my opinion, there needs to be a purchasable unlock pack. Something like $10 for the unlockables. We're hurting the entire community at this point if something is not implemented such as this. Put personal achievements and hours played aside. Now that there are two preceding games, it must be realized how much content there truly is and how much new creators would miss out on.

From my point of view, all these prizes are are intangible records of achievement. These in-game objects will be gone for everyone in however-many-years when LBP servers shut down. So while these servers are up, let all of the people enjoy them in LBP3 for a small fee.

[Shooter0898]

Admittedly, I haven't read every post in this thread, but I believe many of you are forgetting the people who will be new to the LBP franchise come November. I welcome these new creators to the community, and I want them to be able to create the same with the same tool set we do as soon as possible. If these players are on PS4, have never owned a PS3 or any LBP games before hand, they should not have to pay for a console, two games, and have to toil through two story modes just to reach a tool set size near many of ours (assuming PSNow isn't available in the region, or a viable option due to internet connection or whatever else). No, that's just too demanding to any creator. It's just too alienating to a member already new to a community.

In my opinion, there needs to be a purchasable unlock pack. Something like $10 for the unlockables. We're hurting the entire community at this point if something is not implemented such as this. Put personal achievements and hours played aside. Now that there are two preceding games, it must be realized how much content there truly is and how much new creators would miss out on.

From my point of view, all these prizes are are intangible records of achievement. These in-game objects will be gone for everyone in however-many-years when LBP servers shut down. So while these servers are up, let all of the people enjoy them in LBP3 for a small fee.

I created a new PSN account meaning I've lost everything I'll gladly take the option of buying a pack to get all the unlockables from the previous two games because I simply can't be bothered going back and doing it again.

[piggabling]

I created a new PSN account meaning I've lost everything I'll gladly take the option of buying a pack to get all the unlockables from the previous two games because I simply can't be bothered going back and doing it again.

And yes, of course people like you would be in the same boat. As well as any of other people who'd be willing to pay for it.

I never backed up my PS3 before, and had to restart twice due to YLOD, so I know how frustrating this is. I would gladly pay a little money for a shortcut in cases such as these...

[BasketSnake]

This is getting far too complicated:

a/ Give me all of the collectables from 1 and 2
b/ Offer an option on completion of a level 20 times to unlock all the collectables for LBP3

Uh...YES!

[Rogar]

And to all the people who put tons of time and effort into finding these prizes, just to watch it all go down the drain in the blink of a eye, a bit harsh on them is it not?

Are we suggesting to steal the prizes away from people who won them? No! Most will have had these prizes for many years, enjoying a head start you might say. Let me say it again: you lose NOTHING! So why is this harsh?

Prizes are something you have to earn. You want to make a level with millions of different stuff in it, good for you, but you'll have to earn it, by playing the levels and finding them...

Why? Why can't we change this? Why limit creators based on their play skills? What if Mm had designed it the other way around? What if you couldn't play all of the levels until you got a proper, polished level out, or even a team pick?

Should sales be banned because you paid full price at release? Should disabled people give up their special elevators because you had to take the stairs? Should babies be left to die because you had to make your own dinner? Come on, you're losing nothing, SHARE!

Because seriously, if your too lazy to go and play story to find items, that doesn't give you the right to moan about it...

Not necessary. We have the right to moan to begin with, it's called freedom of speech. Furthermore, we supported our "moaning" with reason and evidence. I'm waiting to see the same from the detractors, probably in vain.

[ForgottenEnigma]

Let me say it again: you lose NOTHING! So why is this harsh?

Except time spent gathering these prizes... time is arguably the most precious resource we will ever have in our lives. If others get the same result for free we have effectively wasted ours.

If people physically cannot get prizes due to inability why not simply ask for help? It's ok and we have a forum here for that very purpose. However, I have no sympathy for those just being lazy as you can get through and ace both story campaigns over a couple of weekends... want to skip ahead? Buy an unlock kit.

[Rogar]

What's an unlock kit? Isn't that what the OP is asking for?

Anyway, never mind that. GribbleGrunger, we've got you covered. Apparently all you need to do is ask on the forum.

[ForgottenEnigma]

What the Op actually states is that the items should be unlocked by default in the third game.

[...] give us every single collectable from the first two games as soon as we install LBP3.

also,

What's an unlock kit? Isn't that what the OP is asking for?

Here is the one for lbp vita as an example:

https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwo...PDLCVITATS0001

[BasketSnake]

I didn't even know it existed for LBP Vita. I've not been keeping up with lbp the last two years. It's got to happen for 1 and 2. And seeing as I already have collected everything I shouldn't even care about this. I feel that strongly about it.

[piggabling]

Except time spent gathering these prizes... time is arguably the most precious resource we will ever have in our lives. If others get the same result for free we have effectively wasted ours.

If people physically cannot get prizes due to inability why not simply ask for help? It's ok and we have a forum here for that very purpose. However, I have no sympathy for those just being lazy as you can get through and ace both story campaigns over a couple of weekends... want to skip ahead? Buy an unlock kit.

I understand your point, and will not vociferously attack your claim. However, you have been rewarded for your effort by having access to the rewards for months, if not years, before others. At this point in time, I believe that the rest of the community should have access to it. People who have quote-on-quote "earned it" have had a sort of exclusive rights to the content for a while now.

Truthfully, I'm not in favor of your view, but I understand where you, among others, are coming from. Yet, to reiterate what I've already said, I don't think exclusivity to the previous games' content should continue, as it does not benefit what I believe to be the greater portion of the community.

[dyna]

Are we suggesting to steal the prizes away from people who won them? No! Most will have had these prizes for many years, enjoying a head start you might say. Let me say it again: you lose NOTHING! So why is this harsh?



Why? Why can't we change this? Why limit creators based on their play skills? What if Mm had designed it the other way around? What if you couldn't play all of the levels until you got a proper, polished level out, or even a team pick?

Should sales be banned because you paid full price at release? Should disabled people give up their special elevators because you had to take the stairs? Should babies be left to die because you had to make your own dinner? Come on, you're losing nothing, SHARE!



Not necessary. We have the right to moan to begin with, it's called freedom of speech. Furthermore, we supported our "moaning" with reason and evidence. I'm waiting to see the same from the detractors, probably in vain.

First, I never said the player would lose everything, I meant all there time and effort would just become pointless. And "play skills", are you having a giggle mate? Story mode requires little to no skill, it requires time to go that extra bit to collect a few items in each section. And if it was "made the other way around", barely anyone would get to play the levels because it would be so hard to create, but it is not difficult the way it is now. Its not my fault you want to be lazy and not bother with the story and just buy your items. And I doubt you know anything about human rights, so I don't see the point in bringing up "Freedom of Speech". If I was moaning and being racially abusive to someone, is that okay because I have "Freedom of Speech"? No, of coarse not, so stop whining about not getting your items gift wrapped and handed to you, and maybe put some effort in to actually earning something instead of complaining on a forum about how boring or difficult it is to collect a few bubbles.

[jwwphotos]

And I doubt you know anything about human rights, so I don't see the point in bringing up "Freedom of Speech". If I was moaning and being racially abusive to someone, is that okay because I have "Freedom of Speech"? No, of coarse not, so stop whining about not getting your items gift wrapped and handed to you, and maybe put some effort in to actually earning something instead of complaining on a forum about how boring or difficult it is to collect a few bubbles.

Regardless.. everyone has a right to his opinion. Plain and simple. I think you are starting to take it just a bit far.. and to be fair, not just you, quite a few of the posts as of late have been a bit overly heated for no real reason. We welcome discussion.. even arguments, but when we start seeing cheap shots at one another, I feel we need to say something.

Calm down..

To everyone in this thread. No need to get so out of sorts over prize bubbles. Remember, even though we may disagree with each other, we need to show at least some respect. You can even disagree with me.

Now.. please continue.

[Jonarrthan]

But the fact is you still have the achievements and pins to show you did it the "Fair way" while people who do it the other way would have trophies disabled. I personally think if you bought LBP1 + 2 there shouldn't have to pay again just for the containt. Just like in LBP2's tutorial mode there should just be an option to skip story and get all the items. You shouldn't have to pay extra to unlock containt you already bought.

Why should peoplen be allowed to just skip story mode as practically the story mode is less than 10% of the game. I think I have almost mentioned before how I own the move pack however due to size issues I couldn't complete the move story mode resulting in me losing hundreds of objects which means I can't make natural scenes look as good as someone who can. However I have paid for the containt.


Before I get called lazy I have got the platium trophy in LBP2 and only lack the trophy in LBP1 due to the party person trophy. I actually collected all the items in LBP2 and 1 multiply times on seperate users on my PS3 just because I had a thew side projects I was working on and due to my playstation 3 crashing. It becomes a pain every single time.

[dyna]

I think half the people on here complain because they lost data and such. I bought a new PS3, and lost everything from the start of LBP (things was a few years into LBP2). I didn't not find it that much of a pain that people are making it out to be to re-do both stories and all of the DLC packs again. And to be honest, a lot of people don't care about pins or trophies. Most trophy hunters bought LBP for the plat, not to actually create levels and such.

[mattman111]

I think LBP just should add a pack for all the goodies. I'll gladly relinquish a trophy, and if you want to collect all the items. Go for it. I at one point has 100% on LBP1 in preparation for LBP2. Lucky for me my ps3 died on me, thanks to that pesky YLOD. I would glad pay for all unlocks for lbp1, and lbp2. I don't have enough friends for the 4X gates.

The Crown, Rock made a point that it would make a great king item. I think LBP should take a Team fortress 2 approach and add like unusual effects. Example would be a crown that has planets rotating around it. This would still allow for all costumes to be used however players that won a contest would have a effect to go with all items.

[ForgottenEnigma]

I would glad pay for all unlocks for lbp1, and lbp2.

Well the one for lbpv costs £2.39 which is next to nothing considering the time you save. If you were working for minimum wage (in the Uk at least) you could buy it after just 20 minutes. If you account for the increased size of a lbp 1 & 2 double pack they could charge around £8 for an unlock which would amount to just over an hours worth of work. When you consider it may take around 20 hours to 100% the prizes this would still be a very good deal for those wishing to skip it while those willing to put in the hard work wouldn't feel so cheated.

In effect you're just swapping effort in the game for effort in the real world.

[Rogar]

Here is the one for lbp vita as an example:

https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwo...PDLCVITATS0001

Ah, the time saver! They had one for LBPK, too. If they added them for LBP1 and 2 that would certainly help.

First, I never said the player would lose everything, I meant all there time and effort would just become pointless.

It's a game, you're supposed to be doing it for fun. Other games don't have a create mode, are they all pointless? Besides, they would still have earned the ace and collect 100% trophies that the others won't. Finally, those who can't ace all levels may have invested more time and effort in their attempts to get 100%.

And "play skills", are you having a giggle mate? Story mode requires little to no skill, it requires time to go that extra bit to collect a few items in each section. And if it was "made the other way around", barely anyone would get to play the levels because it would be so hard to create, but it is not difficult the way it is now.

Earlier you said those players had to put in all that time and effort, and now it's easy? But okay, whatever. You can't even imagine not everyone has the same skill level?

[Jonarrthan]

Well the one for lbpv costs £2.39 which is next to nothing considering the time you save. If you were working for minimum wage (in the Uk at least) you could buy it after just 20 minutes. If you account for the increased size of a lbp 1 & 2 double pack they could charge around £8 for an unlock which would amount to just over an hours worth of work. When you consider it may take around 20 hours to 100% the prizes this would still be a very good deal for those wishing to skip it while those willing to put in the hard work wouldn't feel so cheated.

In effect you're just swapping effort in the game for effort in the real world.

Then again you are paying paying £3 to £8 for containt you already own it is a form of on Disc DLC. Asking for more money if you already own the game is unreasonible. For lbp3 it would probably be in the £13 to £15 and be treated as a DLC pack pack as people who haven't bought the original games. If you own the games there should be no extra charge for the containt found on the game.

[RickRock_777•]

GG...I have asked for this numerous times. After all, we "have" paid for these items with the purchase of these games (I don't have hours a day to play Story Levels over and over just to ace them). IMO, they should be made available from the time any of the games are installed. Leave this option to the user...if I want to Trophy hunt, then I can choose not to install everything, but if I want to focus on creating with all of the tools/materials/features of the game, then give me the ability to do that.

Forcing us to play these Story levels numerous times does nothing more than feed the egos of the developers. They need to focus on feeding their customer.

[Biv]

Except time spent gathering these prizes... time is arguably the most precious resource we will ever have in our lives. If others get the same result for free we have effectively wasted ours.

If people physically cannot get prizes due to inability why not simply ask for help? It's ok and we have a forum here for that very purpose. However, I have no sympathy for those just being lazy as you can get through and ace both story campaigns over a couple of weekends... want to skip ahead? Buy an unlock kit.

I can understand the frustration. There are multiple multi-player items I have been unable to get because I can never get the people I need to get them. I can't remember the last time someone "accepted" me joining them. And they sure as heck never want to play the levels I do. Good luck getting anyone to play LBP1 with you.

I'm still annoyed that I can't get the invisible layer because I refuse to buy the Move pack.